Big, is that your girl in your avi?
If is tell her I like her breasts... :bigok: what... it's a compliment :ziplip:Big, is that your girl in your avi?
I grabbed some more myself. I'll be kicking the dose up here pretty soon.I finally broke down and ordered a bit of Prime to run here coming up. Lots of good reviews from good people, so here goes!! Nice to know everyone had a great Thanksgiving!!
:yup:Big, is that your girl in your avi?
It was a blast Bro! Really enjoyed it. Will definitely have to hook it up next time you are in town.Happy Thanksgiving everyone! I had the pleasure of tearing up some iron with Mr. Kleen today, it was a blast to lift with someone who is motivated in the same ways that I am, and to trade ideas/workout ideals back and forth.
Thanks for having me over bud, it was awesome to meet ya, you have a great family, and hopefully we can do it again next time I visit my sister out in Houston.
Was excellent first time back on since then. Heading to gym soon!I hope you had a happy Thanksgiving and enjoy your weekend.
Thanks and back at Ya!nice workouts! hope everyone had a great thanksgiving!
Wowza!!! LOLIf is tell her I like her breasts... :bigok: what... it's a compliment :ziplip:
Oh man that is gonna be nice!I finally broke down and ordered a bit of Prime to run here coming up. Lots of good reviews from good people, so here goes!! Nice to know everyone had a great Thanksgiving!!
Megadosing rocks. Need to hurry up and order my extra.I grabbed some more myself. I'll be kicking the dose up here pretty soon.
Lucky Bastard! LOL:yup:
I couldn't bring myself to do it...Kleen, do you notice much of a difference between 12 and 15 caps of PRIME? Would it be cost-effective?
Good to know. What have you found your sweet spot to be? - I'll be bumping from 7/day to 9/day next week and then probably to 12 the following week and keep it there until the cycle is done.I couldn't bring myself to do it...
Nice workout bro. The asteriod stack and essentials may have to be something I try soon.I didn't log my numbers from my workout with G, we just worked it hard and went for it. I found myself pretty high in rep range on several lifts and will go heavier on all exercises next time. My hammies were shot from dead lifting twice in a row then we hit romanian deads 325, squats 285x14 wm 185x20, oly curls were 95. pinwheels 50. We both had some great rest pause sets in our own rep ranges me being an old man and all. lol
Today was a good day, I introduced USP Labs OEP into my life and man I love the energy from this stuff. Thanks for tossing some my way USP Labs!!!!!
A great positive feeling comes with it, not an edgy feel like most things that pick you up like it does. I also started taking a serving of Anabolic Innovations Essentials with Joint complex. Has some goodies for the joints and soft tissue, tons of vitamins and aminos and Beta alinine. This along with my SuperCissus Rx should keep my tendonitis at bay.
Todays workout.
I am only listing the rest pause set
Incline DB Press - 90x15-5-2=22 going to 95
60lla 60 second stretch
Arnold Press - 70x4 shoulders were already toast from Incline DB. 60x8-2-0-drop 50x8
60 second stretch
Overhead cable tricep ext. 100x11-4-0 fail so dropped 80x2 will start with 90 next time to get higher reps for this exercise.
forgot to stretch
Rack Chins 45x11-4-2
Hammer Dorian Rows 3 plates per side 12-5-4
Hanging back stretch 60
I am definitely changing this up to alternate back movements between the push movements. My shoulder weights are tremendously low from being right after blasting chest presses. I have to fix that as my shoulders are a point of focus if I have one.
Just for fun guys I weighed myself 205 fasted training before starting. Of course some of the glycogen and water will fall off but I am sure I have added some muscle to my frame this week.
Absolutely, with the strength and size increases of the Asteroid Stack it will be nice to know that my other general vitamin / mineral stuff is already on point. Add to that the joint complex and BA and it makes perfect sense of things to be put together, along with some SuperCissus Rx.Nice workout bro. The asteriod stack and essentials may have to be something I try soon.
Make sure to post up a link to your log in here when you do.solid w/o, kleen. can't wait to start my own asteriod run.
9 a Day is pretty noice..I feel training type and diet can strongly dictate what kind of effects you achieve at certain doses.Good to know. What have you found your sweet spot to be? - I'll be bumping from 7/day to 9/day next week and then probably to 12 the following week and keep it there until the cycle is done.
Last time I took PRIME I did 6/9, but next week I plan on bumping to 9/day. Possibly a 9/12 schedule. :dunno: - We'll see. - My diet is hopefully what I need for muscle growth. Given Kleen's approval, I'll post it up here and have you guys tell me what you think.9 a Day is pretty noice..I feel training type and diet can strongly dictate what kind of effects you achieve at certain doses.
Man I love them. I am pretty flexible so the quad stretch takes some effort to get a good stretch but I love them. Triceps feel nice too, I am finding my weights I need to use. I didn't go heavy enough my first time.Nice workout! How are you finding the DC stretches? The triceps and back stretch were my absolute favourites!
Hanging from chin up bar is what I did but I did not have straps so I just held on as long as I could. I am also thinking of doing it on a row machine for thickness. Putting chest plate way out so no way I can bottome out and load that bitch up and let it pull at me that way too.What's the back stretch?
You should be able to get kick ass effects at that dose.9 a Day is pretty noice..I feel training type and diet can strongly dictate what kind of effects you achieve at certain doses.
Absolutely post up!Last time I took PRIME I did 6/9, but next week I plan on bumping to 9/day. Possibly a 9/12 schedule. :dunno: - We'll see. - My diet is hopefully what I need for muscle growth. Given Kleen's approval, I'll post it up here and have you guys tell me what you think.
Word. Here it is:Absolutely post up!
Looks nice and clean but I don't know your weight or what caloric intake would be considered maintenance for you and what would be hyper-caloric. Let's start with your maintenance level and how many estimated cals this meal plan is for the day. We can go from there but the food selections look great.Word. Here it is:
Training Days:
Pre-workout: 1sc Anadraulic State, 1x Glycobol, 3x PRIME, 7 sprays GHenerate, 2x I-GH-1
Intra-Workout: 20g BC+EAA
Meal 1 (post-workout): 1 heaping scoop Lipotropic Protein, 1/2 cup brown rice flour, 1sc Perfect Carb, 3 SLIN
Meal 2: 1/2 ham steak, 5 whole eggs, handfull of cheese, 2 slices Ezekiel bread w/honey, 1 medium grapefruit, 12oz skim milk, 1 NOW ADAM
Meal 3: 2 whole wheat wraps, each with 4oz low-sodium deli turkey and handful of spinach, 4g Fish oil, 1 NOW ADAM, 2x PRIME
Meal 4: 1hsc Lipotropic Protein, 4T Flaxseed meal, 1 banana
Meal 5: 9oz lean pork, 3/4c brown rice, mixed vegetables (green beans, corn, carrots), 1T EVOO, 4g Fish oil, 1 NOW ADAM
Meal 6: 9oz lean (93/7) ground beef, handful of cheese, handful of spinach, 1sc Dymatize Elite 12hr in 8oz milk, 4g Fish oil, 2x PRIME
Pre-bed: 7 sprays GHenerate, 3x I-GH-1, 1 Glycobol
...on OFF DAYS, the only difference is that Meals 1 and 2 are switched, and the shake has no carbs, only 4T flaxseed meal and the LP.
I'm 5'8", 183-185lbs. About 9-10%bf probably.Looks nice and clean but I don't know your weight or what caloric intake would be considered maintenance for you and what would be hyper-caloric. Let's start with your maintenance level and how many estimated cals this meal plan is for the day. We can go from there but the food selections look great.
How is the metabolism. My maintenence is low for my weight at like 2400-2500 cals. If you think yours is around there than maybe 3000-3500 a day for clean mass gain. Have 3500 on workout days about 3000 on non workout days and watch and see how things respond. Then you will know if you should lower or raise from there. I think after 2 weeks of that you should see some solid gains. Now if you have a higher metabolism then obviously you would want to go higher. If the goal is simply recomp I would stick with around 2500-3000 a day some days a little lower some a little higher and you should see killer results. IE ending up 183-185 around 7-8% It really just depends on the overall goal and what your normal caloric intake and expenditure is. One thing is for sure you can eat a little more on PRIME and still see the lypolitic capabilities of PRIME. I am surprised more an more at how many cals I can throw at it without getting negative results. As a ,atter of fact even though I will still be eating in the 3000-3500 range his week I expect to see some fluff fall off from this past weekend.I'm 5'8", 183-185lbs. About 9-10%bf probably.
Wurd........:afro:What? lol
Pretty slow metabolism. My body seems to love fat. It's near impossible for me to get below 7-8%. This is about as lean as I've ever been: http://anabolicminds.com/forum/cycle-info/116407-irish-cannons-breakfast-28.html#post1870196
And I was working my ass off at that point. - Everything stays about that lean except for my gut.
I've definitely added size since then, but have more fat too.
IC, you looked great man! If you are only a few points away from that right now on bodyfat you must be looking quite thick and lean. Gread quads bro! Total package actually but your legs stand out. I bet you have thickened up some on PRIME and probably not much of it being fat. From the looks of it you are like me and your legs stay lean and ripped and you only carry fat on abdomen and lower back. So if you feel size there it is probably just that, size not fat. However the lack of cardio could have allowed for a little. Your diet looks pretty clean so I kind of doubt it, or at least by much. PRIME is on of those that you keep thinking it is working but aren't totally sure until one day BAM! You are swole and your muscle is dense like granite. I definitely notice that PRIME gives a level of muscle maturity to even beginning lifters which is almost unfair. LOL One thing I am learning is that I can go higher on calories but I have to keep my carbs consistently lower than others. While trying to do so. Bottom line for me, carbs make me hold fat and water if I eat more than I need and I don't need that much. As long as I eat at least 100-150 grams of carbs a day I am golden. I have great workouts and my body goes in and eats the glycogen only during the bouts of intense exercise but the rest of the day it knows to run on fat for it's main source of energy. So that 100-150 grams in only used for brain function and intense activity requiring immediate ATP. With some of the supps out there being so good at ATP replenishment without getting in extra carbs it all works synergistically. If I go over 200 grams a day I will start holding water and fat.Oh, and to add, it feels like I'm thickening up some. I can't tel if it's fat or muscle, but I do know I haven't done cardio for two weeks due to a cramped schedule with school and work. - I put my favorite jeans on earlier to go to the grocery store and talk about tight around the thighs/glutes! - Legs are always the first place I pack on muscle; fat goes straight to the gut.
It doesn't matter how much I eat. After midnight, it all turns into cock!!! :hump::yup:
What? lol
LOL!!! Too funny TG, no wonder I here you frequent the late night buffets!!!!!Wurd........:afro:
this is definitely going into my signature... epicIt doesn't matter how much I eat. After midnight, it all turns into cock!!! :hump::yup:
I can see it now. Hey Baby, why don't we go to a late dinner and then catch the late show, it will be over by midnight. SCHWING!!!!this is definitely going into my signature... epic
and after it's over we can go carb up for tomorrow morning!I can see it now. Hey Baby, why don't we go to a late dinner and then catch the late show, it will be over by midnight. SCHWING!!!!
I think I will have to give this a shot.9 a Day is pretty noice..I feel training type and diet can strongly dictate what kind of effects you achieve at certain doses.
o, the fabled 2 cap zone... hahaI have not ventured into the 2 pill zone yet. Not that I don't feel I could handle it but that one is so effective at this point that 2 would probably be wasting it before I need to move up in dose. This is a very good sign!!!!
Yeah that is still definitely megadosing considering at that dose you are equivalent to 12 a day of the older caps.I think I will have to give this a shot.
Man that is awesome! Sounds like you are solid bro. What you are doing appears to be working rather well for you. You can definitely keep the carbs in meal 5 during a bulk. My mind automatically goes into the way to stay the leanest possible even during bulking. I just have a propensity to get fat so it is always in the forefront of my mind. However if not putting on fat you could add some cals to see how high you can go gaining mass without putting on excess fat. PRIME really accells in that area.Thanks for all the help and encouragement, Kleen. I'll heed your advice. I may actually keep the carbs in Meal 5 and just kick the cardio up and see if I can get by with that, but I've been considering dropping them from the meal as well, but I'd like to take a different approach first. As you said, with PRIME it appears you may consume extra cals without a negative effect.
I weighed in at 188lbs today, and that was AFTER my fasted session. I was about 183lbs when I started PRIME. Strength was definitely up. I continue to have great workouts on my current stack. I really couldn't ask for better.
Yeah, but I am not a Brahma Bull like you are Sir. I would be flying from room to room buzzing like a bee in a green house.o, the fabled 2 cap zone... haha
It is a ride for sure!
I dabbled with 2 yesterday morning, going to have stagger the dose a bit to soften the impact!! 1 pill 7am and one 8am. This just for my Sunday moring workout. Most days I will just do 1 am and 1 pm..o, the fabled 2 cap zone... haha
It is a ride for sure!
Sounds about right to me.I dabbled with 2 yesterday morning, going to have stagger the dose a bit to soften the impact!! 1 pill 7am and one 8am. This just for my Sunday moring workout. Most days I will just do 1 am and 1 pm..
When I get into my prep I may run 2 am for a while depending on how things go.
Yeah, and I am loving it!!!!Sorry I've been MIA Kleen, ill catch up on your posts and be back on track in no time.
Got some OEP huh?:wiggle:
It's a real load on the hams and glutes when your doing say squats and sldl's. You get some ham and glute work from the quad exercise then turn around and hammer yourself with a tough compound exercise like sldl.. I find that my hamstrings are really taking a pounding. Then your cardio is very hamstring intensive at times. That's why I spend so much time stretching lately had my hamstring pop last summer... It didn't hurt much but it was kind of scary.I have a pain in my azz! LOL Sorry, but really my gluteus medius/minimus or my insertion of my hamstring is kind of burning a little. Almost an electric feeling and almost a strain feeling. Really it feels like when you are stretching and you stretch too far. That is really what it feels like even though I am in a normal range of motion. However walking up hill on the treadmill this morning aggravated it further. I think I may have to nix the Stiff legged Deads for a bit to see if this helps. I could also have some inflamation around the nerves there but not sure. For now I will treat it as a pull and be very careful with it until the feeling subsides. As of right now I feel it a little everytime I move my right foot forward when it reaches the highest point in my walking stride.