Is there anything that’s like a better epi-andro?

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Of course I do!

What is it?
the 1st clue is the kind of girl you don't bring home to mother, cause shes a freak...when you got a freak for a girlfriend-I take that back-when you have a SUPER FREAK for a girlfriend you probably won't need to look for more...of course want and need are separate issues, lol.
 
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Oh yeah, I distinctly remember saying to my self on my last cycle, when I was single; don't do this again if you are single or don't have enough f*ck friends on the call sheet. You just end up being addicted to porn lol
highly recommend bigtits.com....just sayin.
 

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Had a killer workout today! Just using 200mg of Stanogen in the morning before I leave to work. I can't wait to stack this with the Alpha 7. Its going to be interesting the next couple months!

oh yeah...me and the ol lady had an intense tumble in the rough session last night too.
 
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Had a killer workout today! Just using 200mg of Stanogen in the morning before I leave to work. I can't wait to stack this with the Alpha 7. Its going to be interesting the next couple months!

oh yeah...me and the ol lady had an intense tumble in the rough session last night too.
should be a nice stack!!!

go easy on the ol lady, don't want to use her up this early in the game!!!;)
 

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should be a nice stack!!!

go easy on the ol lady, don't want to use her up this early in the game!!!;)
I've dropped the Stanogen this morning because I want to give the Alpha 7 a good clean solid run for the first month so I can see what its effects are. I'll add the Stanogen back in for the second month and rock-n-roll from there on out. I'm going to have the old man do the same. I'm lazy about logs, but I may post up a log on the A7.
 
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fess up---you just like the make up sex, break up-make up-break up- make up, lol.
well not so much anymore (married now...) but back in the day... it was hard to complain about it haha
 
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easy solution:
1) get back together
2) remember why you hated it
3) break up again
4) repeat until it sinks in

haha... i've done the same more times than i care to count... you always look back and only see the good things not all the little miseries that make you want out in the first place... right now is even harder because all the other "fish in the sea" are more like "fish in the other tank you can't get into".... crap time to be on the fence since the grass is shiit brown on both sides currently
Yeah, I know what you mean. It's a solution that definitely enlightens you, but it's painful af. Especially it isn't fair to the girl. Like for instance this one, she really cared about me and believed in us, I don't think I'm ever going to find something like this again. So me being doubtful and half committed, wasn't something I could forgive my self doing to her. It's different if you are dealing just with some random bit*h or with wife material.

How old are you? I'm 34, and this is really starting to be a major pain. Letting people in to your life to such a degree and then letting go. I don't think I can do this anymore. How picky should I be. I don't know. I've got pretty high standards as far as emotional maturity goes. And also there is the physical side, me being into fitness and aas, I clearly have very skewed standards in regards to general populy. She wasn't sporty at all and she was my age, and I don't know, am I to vain in saying that I can do much better? Or is the fact that she was totally committed enough ... If I wasn't 34, I wouldn't be thinking about it so much ...
 
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Yeah, I know what you mean. It's a solution that definitely enlightens you, but it's painful af. Especially it isn't fair to the girl. Like for instance this one, she really cared about me and believed in us, I don't think I'm ever going to find something like this again. So me being doubtful and half committed, wasn't something I could forgive my self doing to her. It's different if you are dealing just with some random bit*h or with wife material.

How old are you? I'm 34, and this is really starting to be a major pain. Letting people in to your life to such a degree and then letting go. I don't think I can do this anymore. How picky should I be. I don't know. I've got pretty high standards as far as emotional maturity goes. And also there is the physical side, me being into fitness and aas, I clearly have very skewed standards in regards to general populy. She wasn't sporty at all and she was my age, and I don't know, am I to vain in saying that I can do much better? Or is the fact that she was totally committed enough ... If I wasn't 34, I wouldn't be thinking about it so much ...
don't overthink it...I was coming off a bad breakup when I met my wife, I wasn't interested in a relationship. she pursued me and I played hard to get...I think it is a wise thing for a man to play hard to get and let the woman pursue him... this has worked very well for me over the years, been happily married for almost 30 years--my wife is my soul mate, I am truly blessed to have found such a great partner in life!!!
 
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I've dropped the Stanogen this morning because I want to give the Alpha 7 a good clean solid run for the first month so I can see what its effects are. I'll add the Stanogen back in for the second month and rock-n-roll from there on out. I'm going to have the old man do the same. I'm lazy about logs, but I may post up a log on the A7.
how old is your dad? I think you said, but I forgot....be great for you to log, alpha seven is new product and the feedback would be much appreciated!!!
 
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don't overthink it...I was coming off a bad breakup when I met my wife, I wasn't interested in a relationship. she pursued me and I played hard to get...I think it is a wise thing for a man to play hard to get and let the woman pursue him... this has worked very well for me over the years, been happily married for almost 30 years--my wife is my soul mate, I am truly blessed to have found such a great partner in life!!!
Wow, that sounds great. Happy it turned out the way it did for you!

Yeah, my head gets in the way all the time. But you know, sometimes it pays off to invest in something, although it needs work. You just need to believe in it. The times right now are just so difficult. There is no work (film industry) and we are then putting all the stress on our relationships. Cant even go outside really, and meet new people.
 
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Wow, that sounds great. Happy it turned out the way it did for you!

Yeah, my head gets in the way all the time. But you know, sometimes it pays off to invest in something, although it needs work. You just need to believe in it. The times right now are just so difficult. There is no work (film industry) and we are then putting all the stress on our relationships. Cant even go outside really, and meet new people.
[film industry]….you are surrounded by fake, phoney people, who are looking for stepping stone to advance career...I suggest you look far outside that industry to find a committed relationship-really great for picking up good time girls, not so much to find a girl looking for committed relationship, imo.

best of luck!!!
 

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Can someone tell me who has the best deal on a pure 1-andro product? Looks like Hi Tech 1-Testosterone, but I could be missing something. I have a bottle of Sup3r-1 elite, but need more to run a proper cycle.
 
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Can someone tell me who has the best deal on a pure 1-andro product? Looks like Hi Tech 1-Testosterone, but I could be missing something. I have a bottle of Sup3r-1 elite, but need more to run a proper cycle.
I am seeing really nice results 3 weeks in on ICON ONE. save 25% using my code at iconicformulations.com.

the added bonus with ICON ONE is it is dermacrine + 1-andro in same product.
 
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Yeah, I know what you mean. It's a solution that definitely enlightens you, but it's painful af. Especially it isn't fair to the girl. Like for instance this one, she really cared about me and believed in us, I don't think I'm ever going to find something like this again. So me being doubtful and half committed, wasn't something I could forgive my self doing to her. It's different if you are dealing just with some random bit*h or with wife material.

How old are you? I'm 34, and this is really starting to be a major pain. Letting people in to your life to such a degree and then letting go. I don't think I can do this anymore. How picky should I be. I don't know. I've got pretty high standards as far as emotional maturity goes. And also there is the physical side, me being into fitness and aas, I clearly have very skewed standards in regards to general populy. She wasn't sporty at all and she was my age, and I don't know, am I to vain in saying that I can do much better? Or is the fact that she was totally committed enough ... If I wasn't 34, I wouldn't be thinking about it so much ...
32 myself... have def been through the same and even though married now (just 2 years) I still ahve 1 ex that I question breaking up with all the time... we did the break/get back 3xx over 4 years until she finally gave up on me and never came back... Frankly tho, I think just the fact that I "lost" (i.e. didn't get what I wanted) is what makes me feel that one more than others.

That and she was straight fire in the looks/body dept ;)
 

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I am seeing really nice results 3 weeks in on ICON ONE. save 25% using my code at iconicformulations.com.

the added bonus with ICON ONE is it is dermacrine + 1-andro in same product.
I've looked at that, but I'm back and forth on the topical. I know people seem to like it, but how many mg are you getting with 5 pumps? Are size gains on par with 330mg of oral daily?
 
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I've looked at that, but I'm back and forth on the topical. I know people seem to like it, but how many mg are you getting with 5 pumps? Are size gains on par with 330mg of oral daily?
according to @delsolrob transdermal 1-ad is at least twice as effective as oral...125mg per 5 pump dose

I am running it myself and logging it, this dose seems very effective, but to be honest this is my 1st time running 1-andro. seeing decent results for only being on day 24.
 
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Not only does it offer better bioavailability and bypass the first pass through the liver, the skin also contains the enzymes that convert 1-DHEA to the metabolites you're aiming for. So, by the time it makes it into the bloodstream there's already some conversion.

here's a link to a great article
https://iconicformulations.com/blogs/news/transdermal-steroids-expanded
 
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Not only does it offer better bioavailability and bypass the first pass through the liver, the skin also contains the enzymes that convert 1-DHEA to the metabolites you're aiming for. So, by the time it makes it into the bloodstream there's already some conversion.

here's a link to a great article
https://iconicformulations.com/blogs/news/transdermal-steroids-expanded
thanks for chiming in...i'm no noobie when it comes to hormonals and icon one is getting it done for me.

my log is ICON ONE in supplement log section, everyone is welcome to join in.
 

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Maybe something that lifts the weights for you and puts sexy hoes' numbers into your phone while you sleep?
That's a billion dollar idea. I'm proggin daily so let me know and we can work on an app, lol.
 

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Maybe something that lifts the weights for you and puts sexy hoes' numbers into your phone while you sleep?
That's a billion dollar idea. I'm proggin daily so let me know and we can work on an app, lol.
 
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what are you trying to achieve with the Sustain Alpha in that protocol ^^^
for that protocol I will be using as a libido booster, mood enhancer and as a mild AI..
 
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I will say TD Epiandrosterone is like a better version of Epiandrosterone, if you're used to taking capsules.
 
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I will say TD Epiandrosterone is like a better version of Epiandrosterone, if you're used to taking capsules.
I like to combine capsules and transdermal...oral epi has a short term effect for me but hits pretty fast-great for pre-workout...the benefit of transdermal being the slower release=longer lasting effect...all oral epi aren't the same, alpha stano is way better than other oral epi products I've tried.
 
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I like to combine capsules and transdermal...oral epi has a short term effect for me but hits pretty fast-great for pre-workout...the benefit of transdermal being the slower release=longer lasting effect...all oral epi aren't the same, alpha stano is way better than other oral epi products I've tried.
This is most likely because it is a more pure form. When capsuled sometimes there are added ingredients to fill the pills. I guess due to the idea size matters.
 
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This is most likely because it is a more pure form. When capsuled sometimes there are added ingredients to fill the pills. I guess due to the idea size matters.
Teehee
 

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My favorite stack is 1 andro/epiandro/androsterone. I've done 2 runs of hardrock supps super mandro (1 andro) r-andro shred (androsterone and 7dhea) and CEL stanoplex. Usually dose the epiandro preworkout, and 1 andro/androsterone spaced out throughout the day. Always lean out big time, look full and vascular and strong. Definitely an expensive cycle, but with the minimal sides and super easy recovery, it's worth it to me.
What dosages do you run these at?
 

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not bad, I am on week 3, 1st bottle of icon one[1-andro+dermacrine]plan on running 2 bottles. then going to run 1 bottle of alpha seven[androsterone] and alpha stano[epiandro].

I am on trt 100mg test cyp weekly but will run m-test/sustain alpha/Invictus for pct.

we are running close to same cycle!!!
Is Icon one topical 1-andro + dermacrine? Is alpha seven topical androsterone? Do they have a topical epi andro? When does alpha seven topical come out?
 
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Is Icon one topical 1-andro + dermacrine? Is alpha seven topical androsterone? Do they have a topical epi andro? When does alpha seven topical come out?
Yeah brother, like thebigt said, Apex Alchemy has TD Epiandro, and it's awesome!
 

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Sorry is the 150mg of androsterone from just 1 cap of the R-andro shred?
Thanks
My bad I meant 300mg a day, 2 capsules as per the serving on the bottle. Usually split 1 in the AM/one in the PM
 
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Just beware (given the circumstances) that Epiandro is highly Androgenic, and could (potentially) make you more emotional.
What exactly does that entail? Increased aggression, more confidence...?
 
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What exactly does that entail? Increased aggression, more confidence...?
Yeah, well like I mentioned above, it has LOTS of great effects.
But he had said he had broken up with his gf, and was having a little bit of a rough time..

.... And messing with your hormones can sometimes make an emotionally difficult time even harder.

Epiandro is a STRONG androgen, so yeah, aggressiveness can increase, and emotions could possibly run stronger.

I love the stuff, but if I were going through a difficult break-up, I'd keep an eye on myself.
 
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What exactly does that entail? Increased aggression, more confidence...?
I'm pretty sure I mentioned many of Epi's positive effects in one of my responses above. ^^
 
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We offered a beta release of Alpha Seven...hoping to have some feedback on the beta in the next couple weeks. And hoping to release the production version before the end of the month.
@delsolrob do you guys have an ETA for alpha seven yet?
 
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I was bad today...:oops:

I ordered 2 Apex Alchemy Arimahex, 2 Kronos, and 2 Stanogen. I also still have my IF Alpha-7 here that I have been holding on to.

I don’t plan on using all of it at once, and the Arimahex is definitely going to take some experimentation. I can’t be pushing these joints too far! Lots of products I just couldn’t pass up
 

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I actually thought I answered more in depth than I did.

Immediate strength increase, energy, aggression, increased muscle hardness confidence, focus, drive, libido increase, and it definitely makes it easier to cut some fat.
I've noticed something over the past couple days. I'll say slightly nasty things to people before I know it. Its not bad, but its surfacing.
 
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I've noticed something over the past couple days. I'll say slightly nasty things to people before I know it. Its not bad, but its surfacing.
you are using ALPHA SEVEN, right?
 

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