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sweet i cant wait to start ahhhhhhh im posting up some pics tomorrow! im really hoping to gain a solid 10 pounds of lean muscle with no increase in bf. this is spartaaaaaaaayour probably cool with activate
sweet i cant wait to start ahhhhhhh im posting up some pics tomorrow! im really hoping to gain a solid 10 pounds of lean muscle with no increase in bf. this is spartaaaaaaaayour probably cool with activate
goodluck! im up 5-6lbs about 3 weeks in right nowsweet i cant wait to start ahhhhhhh im posting up some pics tomorrow! im really hoping to gain a solid 10 pounds of lean muscle with no increase in bf. this is spartaaaaaaaa
As long as you eat a ton of clean food and killsweet i cant wait to start ahhhhhhh im posting up some pics tomorrow! im really hoping to gain a solid 10 pounds of lean muscle with no increase in bf. this is spartaaaaaaaa
wow, what does ur cycle look like(side sups, pct also) epi solo??? 6 pounds in 3 weeks is amazing!!goodluck! im up 5-6lbs about 3 weeks in right now
ill post up my diet next week along with all my side sups ill be taking! 7 pounds already???? what are you on ahahahahaAs long as you eat a ton of clean food and kill
It in the gym I don't see why you shouldn't make 10lbs. Im probably gonna hit the 10lb mark at the end of three weeks I hope haha. Already up 7 in 16 days! I'm hoping for 15-17 lbs at the end!
yea i have pharm nolva so no worries but doesnt stano aromitize? i really wanna be careful cuz i know im prone to gyno since i have preexisting gyno(hopefully IBE epi will get rid of it)Gyno shouldn't be a problem on cycle and even during pct to be honest. Just make sure you have a serm on hand for pct and you have nothing to worry about.
Yup haha, I'm taking Havoc(epi). Literally have been just eating as much clean food as possible. From the couple of day I counted calories it varied from 3500-4000 a day. And I keep my protein in the 300-400 range.ill post up my diet next week along with all my side sups ill be taking! 7 pounds already???? what are you on ahahahaha
yeah, im loving it. Only side sups are BCAA occasionally in addition to protein of course.wow, what does ur cycle look like(side sups, pct also) epi solo??? 6 pounds in 3 weeks is amazing!!
yea everyones telling me to eat twice as much when im on cycle, which means ill have to take in atleast 4000 calories per day and 300 grams of protein per day, let the feasting begin and what do you mean by clean? only complex carbs and protein? no simple carbs or cheat days?Yup haha, I'm taking Havoc(epi). Literally have been just eating as much clean food as possible. From the couple of day I counted calories it varied from 3500-4000 a day. And I keep my protein in the 300-400 range.
thats exactly what im aiming for!! my goal is 10 pounds but if i gain more i'd be very happy. i just hope it wont effect my cardio, last time i used roids, i gained so much weight, 120 to 155(injections), and once soccer season started i was slow as fkkkk ahahah anyways we'll see what happens!! thanks bro!When I took epi I went from 174 to 191 at the start of pct (+17lbs) and dropped to 188, keeping a total of 14 lbs on a six weeker. Little to no body fat increase either. Im resting at 175 again now but much leaner from carb cycling and now on cycle again so we'll see how it goes. Best of luck man!
ya im going to start with 30mg also, second week ill up it to 40mg and if i dont get any sides im going to try out 50mg. good luck bro!yeah, im loving it. Only side sups are BCAA occasionally in addition to protein of course.
the plan is 30/30/40/40-50?/40-50?/50 depending on if gains slow.
PCT is
Nolva 20/20/10/10
DAA 3g/3/3/3
erase either 1/2/3/2/1 or 0/0/3/2/1/
Exactly, stay away from sweets and so far I've really had no cravings for junk food or anything bad. Just been eating a lot of chicken, beef, turkey, potatoes, and brown rice.yea everyones telling me to eat twice as much when im on cycle, which means ill have to take in atleast 4000 calories per day and 300 grams of protein per day, let the feasting begin and what do you mean by clean? only complex carbs and protein? no simple carbs or cheat days?
RICE. Rest, Ice, Compress, Elevate. Its your wrist so elevating really isnt a problem. Just stop lifting for a week or so and see how it feels. You probably just sprained or tweaked it somehow. Dont put any stress on it for a while.bad news... my wrist has been killing me for the past 3 days, i think i sprained it or something. i can push wtv but when it comes to lifting, my wrist gives out after a few reps...ill be taking the week off(except for cardio,core training and soccer) hopefully by next week when i start preloading my wrist will be 100% again. any advice on what i can do or take to make the healing process abit faster?
rice?? what do you mean by compress and elevate? ya im taking this week off, i really dont wanna hurt myself especially right before i start my cycle! i pretty sure i tweaked it, it doesnt hurt or anything, i only feel pain when i put to much pressure on it(lifting weights)RICE. Rest, Ice, Compress, Elevate. Its your wrist so elevating really isnt a problem. Just stop lifting for a week or so and see how it feels. You probably just sprained or tweaked it somehow. Dont put any stress on it for a while.
Wow never mind I just got it ahahah my bad.RICE. Rest, Ice, Compress, Elevate. Its your wrist so elevating really isnt a problem. Just stop lifting for a week or so and see how it feels. You probably just sprained or tweaked it somehow. Dont put any stress on it for a while.
nah, stano shouldnt really add any gyno risk(i dont think). Epi has caused rebound gyno in alot of people though, so maybe think about adding erase for PCT. i have alil gyno leftover from an SD cycle(3 yrs ago), so im being extra careful this time. itd be great if the epi actually gets rid of it for me. well see...ya thats exactly what happened to me..tore my mcl ligaments in both my knees, went down to 115 pounds because i wasnt eating right, not exercising..to be honest i was just depressed.. but im back now and im feeling stronger than ever!
i think for the first week ill start at 30 mg, and second week bump up to 40mg(sweet spot) then work my way to 50mg if i dont get any sides, same with stano. but i think ill start stano 2 weeks before epi like you said. i have a question tho...will stano give me GYNO? i already have preexisting gyno, and im hoping this cycle will get rid of it(my friends have used IBE epistane and got rid of there gyno for good) because if it will..ill have second thoughts about adding it to my cycle even tho i already ordered 4 bottles -.-
I agree with this statement completely lolI've never heard of many people getting rebound gyno from epi. The cases I have seen were mostly from people who didn't use a serm post cycle.
hmm im using licogenix for my AI and novla for my serm..alot of people have been telling me licogenix is exactly like erase except erase has been out for much longer thus why people trust it and recommend it to everyone. i read alot of reviews on lico tho and never found any negative feedback so i have faith in it.nah, stano shouldnt really add any gyno risk(i dont think). Epi has caused rebound gyno in alot of people though, so maybe think about adding erase for PCT. i have alil gyno leftover from an SD cycle(3 yrs ago), so im being extra careful this time. itd be great if the epi actually gets rid of it for me. well see...
Im startin epi on Thurs. Running stano and 11x at 600 mg in the meantime. only noticable side so far is acne on chest.
yea, i have pharm novla so i dont think ill be getting a rebound from epi..im just afraid while im on cycle ill get some gyno from the stano, but ibe epi has a AI so im hoping that it will prevent any gyno from forming!I agree with this statement completely lol
maybe u should do some research before posting then bro.I've never heard of many people getting rebound gyno from epi. The cases I have seen were mostly from people who didn't use a serm post cycle.
sounds good.hmm im using licogenix for my AI and novla for my serm..alot of people have been telling me licogenix is exactly like erase except erase has been out for much longer thus why people trust it and recommend it to everyone. i read alot of reviews on lico tho and never found any negative feedback so i have faith in it.
Read each work carefully man. I've never heard of MANY...not any. I didn't say it was not possible as it can happen from any ph. But with epi being a dryer compound that exhibits AI type properties, it is an uncommon side IF proper pct is followed. That being said, researching most of the cases where people developed gyno issues shows that they did not use proper care in a pct routine.maybe u should do some research before posting then bro.
if you researched, you would find MANY. it isn't uncommon at all.Read each work carefully man. I've never heard of MANY...not any. I didn't say it was not possible as it can happen from any ph. But with epi being a dryer compound that exhibits AI type properties, it is an uncommon side IF proper pct is followed. That being said, researching most of the cases where people developed gyno issues shows that they did not use proper care in a pct routine.
so gyno isn't common with dry compounds?? guess u never heard of SD.with epi being a dryer compound, it is an uncommon side IF proper pct is followed.
No, he's probably off cycle which Is why he madAre you only cycle or something!?
I just started my next cycle today. Pretty much running identical to your set up. When are you starting yours?No, he's probably off cycle which Is why he mad
If I'm right Jachuree is around the same week I am, which is week 4.I just started my next cycle today. Pretty much running identical to your set up. When are you starting yours?
Any noticeable changes?If I'm right Jachuree is around the same week I am, which is week 4.
edit: double postIf I'm right Jachuree is around the same week I am, which is week 4.
yeah, im maybe a day or 2 ahead of Tony, currently up 8lbs and visually leaner. Getting a strange variety peoples opinions on what i look like lately for whatever reason haha. Ive recieved "are you on juice?" and "are you getting skinnier?" in the same day. i dont know how that works hahaIf I'm right Jachuree is around the same week I am, which is week 4.
Good question. I have read a lot of posts from people running the same stacks and haven't really come to a conclusion on the matter. Try searching the net for the interactions between the two types of compounds. If I find anything out i'll let you knowwell first off i'd like to thank you guys for answering my questions i guess ill be stacking stano with epistane, it seems like the right thing to do (after all the threads i've read, stano and epi seem like the perfect combo to gain some LBM and lose some BF% at the same time) which is what im trying to obtain +10lbs/-2%BF.
just out of curiosity, would the stano block or reduce the effects of epistanes gyno reversal?(i know this doesnt happen to everyone that uses epi)
and guys please stop arguing, everyone has their own opinion on things, theres no need to start drama, im thankful for all your support! honestly i really appreciate it.
just a reminder, i just started preloading..cycles starting in one week!!! i cant wait!
Good question. I have read a lot of posts from people running the same stacks and haven't really come to a conclusion on the matter. Try searching the net for the interactions between the two types of compounds. If I find anything out i'll let you knowwell first off i'd like to thank you guys for answering my questions i guess ill be stacking stano with epistane, it seems like the right thing to do (after all the threads i've read, stano and epi seem like the perfect combo to gain some LBM and lose some BF% at the same time) which is what im trying to obtain +10lbs/-2%BF.
just out of curiosity, would the stano block or reduce the effects of epistanes gyno reversal?(i know this doesnt happen to everyone that uses epi)
and guys please stop arguing, everyone has their own opinion on things, theres no need to start drama, im thankful for all your support! honestly i really appreciate it.
just a reminder, i just started preloading..cycles starting in one week!!! i cant wait!
meh i cant find any info on stano reducing the effects of epi's gyno reversal, but i found something that might interest you(you might already know this) anyways here it is.Good question. I have read a lot of posts from people running the same stacks and haven't really come to a conclusion on the matter. Try searching the net for the interactions between the two types of compounds. If I find anything out i'll let you know
youre not the only one who's told me that, why cant i take it during and after my cycle??I'd save creatine for pct. About to start my epi (and andromass), will follow along. Good luck!
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makes sense! i guess ill save it for my pct then. thanks for the info brotha!If you're going to lose any of what you gain it's in pct. Like saving your ammo for the real war.
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