FIRST CYCLE...TEST ENANTHATE- CANT FEEL ANYTHING...

[hairygrandpa]

belgorod , any update on your condition?

 

[Chados]

belgorod , any update on your condition?

That comment is one of the funniest things ive seen on a forum.. thank you

 

[Jcruddy]

When my cawk aint playin I dont need much more of an invitation to let my tongue do the talkin nomsayin. Not meaning to be crass but once she's wetter than a raw oyster you could slip a flaccid 2incher inside.

Funny dude

 

[Arkm2]

In my experience i noticed the real effects on week 4 mate.

 

[belgorod]

Still I dont feel any difference.

 

[hairygrandpa]

Still I dont feel any difference.

You need a balance of estrogen and test to get a boner.You killed your estrogen at the beginning, it takes time to convert. Stop taking Exemestane for 2 weeks, then 12.5mg eod.

 

[belgorod]

I did not say I dont have erections.

I have erections just like in the past. I mean just before the steroid cycle.

But, I was expecting much better erections during steroid cycle.

Still, I could not reach my past erection quality. ( 8 years ago ).

I have bought my gear from pharmacy. Next week I will make a blood test. So we will see what happened.

 

[hairygrandpa]

I did not say I dont have erections.

I have erections just like in the past. I mean just before the steroid cycle.

But, I was expecting much better erections during steroid cycle.

Still, I could not reach my past erection quality. ( 8 years ago ).

I have bought my gear from pharmacy. Next week I will make a blood test. So we will see what happened.

Better -or more frequent erections can/will happen -but only when enough estrogen is present (you killed it). Low estrogen causes a lot of sides, including flaccid d1ck.

Your approach to the problem was/is really stupid. Even if steroids were a good idea to tackle it (hint: for you its not), why test/e and not test/prop?
As you seem eager to experiment, here a tip that worked for me: Melanotan 2.
It gives you a tan and a boner (like no boner before). Look it up.

 

[MrKleen73]

Better -or more frequent erections can/will happen -but only when enough estrogen is present (you killed it). Low estrogen causes a lot of sides, including flaccid d1ck.

Your approach to the problem was/is really stupid. Even if steroids were a good idea to tackle it (hint: for you its not), why test/e and not test/prop?
As you seem eager to experiment, here a tip that worked for me: Melanotan 2.
It gives you a tan and a boner (like no boner before). Look it up.

Ha, no doubt all we heard about were the constant boners while you were using that!!!!

 

[SouthernIron]

You guys are cracking me up in this thread. I swear I get great entertainment throughout the day just coming here and reading some of the posts. LMAO!

 

[SouthernIron]

Better -or more frequent erections can/will happen -but only when enough estrogen is present (you killed it). Low estrogen causes a lot of sides, including flaccid d1ck.

Your approach to the problem was/is really stupid. Even if steroids were a good idea to tackle it (hint: for you its not), why test/e and not test/prop?
As you seem eager to experiment, here a tip that worked for me: Melanotan 2.
It gives you a tan and a boner (like no boner before). Look it up.

Always wanted to try Melanotan.

 

[belgorod]

What is so funny?

 

[hairygrandpa]

What is so funny?

 

[Alistair_]

What is so funny?

Let us know how your blood test comes back. Like Nac said, learn to eat kitty like a pro and if your dick isn't working you can get her off multiple times with your tongue and when up get your mind off "I can't get a boner" then it's 100% easier to get a hard on when your not freaking out about it.

 

[Chados]

Let us know how your blood test comes back. Like Nac said, learn to eat kitty like a pro and if your dick isn't working you can get her off multiple times with your tongue and when up get your mind off "I can't get a boner" then it's 100% easier to get a hard on when your not freaking out about it.

Haha I love this.. basically what you're saying is to please the woman cause then she doesn't care wether you can make it or not?

 

[Alistair_]

Haha I love this.. basically what you're saying is to please the woman cause then she doesn't care wether you can make it or not?

She's going to care if you can't get an erection but for the sake of damage control, being good with your tongue helps.

 

[Chados]

She's going to care if you can't get an erection but for the sake of damage control, being good with your tongue helps.

I have to respect your knowledge sir

 

[hairygrandpa]

She's going to care if you can't get an erection but for the sake of damage control, being good with your tongue helps.

I have to respect your knowledge sir

I would skip the tongue action and buy her a small dog.

 

[belgorod]

Since I dont have GF , that does not matter really...

 

[belgorod]

As of today I still cant feel it. By the way, is it possible that he is injecting this wrong? Maybe Test E cant reach to my body. He always uses 0.5" needles, and from delts. We rotate each time. Left delt - right delt, like this.

 

[mike33511]

As of today I still cant feel it. By the way, is it possible that he is injecting this wrong? Maybe Test E cant reach to my body. He always uses 0.5" needles, and from delts. We rotate each time. Left delt - right delt, like this.

When you pull the needle out, does anything come out? If not, then it was injected into either muscle or fat and it will absorb into your bloodstream.

 

[belgorod]

What do you mean by anything comes out ? After he finishes the injection and pulls the needle back from my delt, I only see a little blood there, thats it.

Also, does testostorone can be absorbed by also fat? And does it have same effectiveness as absorbing by muscle ?

 

[mike33511]

What do you mean by anything comes out ? After he finishes the injection and pulls the needle back from my delt, I only see a little blood there, thats it.

Also, does testostorone can be absorbed by also fat? And does it have same effectiveness as absorbing by muscle ?

A little blood is fine and very normal. Yes, testosterone can be absorbed into subcutaneous fat. Either way, muscle or fat, it gets into the bloodstream. Effectiveness should be the same. Subq injections may lead to less aromatization.

 

[belgorod]

I am surprised actually. If it really does not matter than why some people are persisting on injecting only from glutes? And why we cant inject this thing from our arms ? ( The place that which they take our blood sample for example )

 

[belgorod]

Also , what if the testostorone cant reach fat or muscle? Can the skin absorbe this ? Maybe 0.5" needle length is not enough?

 

[mike33511]

I am surprised actually. If it really does not matter than why some people are persisting on injecting only from glutes? And why we cant inject this thing from our arms ? ( The place that which they take our blood sample for example )

I didn't say it didn't matter where you inject. It would be a bad idea to try to inject oil directly into a vein. The reason why there are certain spots that are used more often is because there are less nerves and veins in that area, which we want to avoid hitting. Also, some areas hold oil better than others. If you start injecting in completely random places, you will likely get really bad PIP in the form of a painful lump at the injection site.

 

[mike33511]

Also , what if the testostorone cant reach fat or muscle? Can the skin absorbe this ? Maybe 0.5" needle length is not enough?

Your skin is not half an inch thick.

 

[MrKleen73]

I am surprised actually. If it really does not matter than why some people are persisting on injecting only from glutes? And why we cant inject this thing from our arms ? ( The place that which they take our blood sample for example )

It doesn't matter whether injected into fat or muscle other than how quickly it gets distributed but you can't just go injecting steroids intravenously! That will screw you up quick!!!

Also , what if the testostorone cant reach fat or muscle? Can the skin absorbe this ? Maybe 0.5" needle length is not enough?

Okay man we are back to hop off of the cycle and start a PCT. You have ZERO business running a cycle! This comment alone shows you have way too much to learn to be using steroids.

I find it very disturbing that you don't even know that there is no way your skin is a .5 inches thick.... It is millimeters at best!

You have obviously not done any real research and want to be spoon fed information... Go read something and educate yourself for goodness sake. Jumping on gear with no idea what is going on is HUGELY IRRESPONSIBLE!!! May I suggest you start by going and finding a copy of an anabolic steroid guide or some other steroid specific publication that gives you all the information you need to properly run a cycle. Once you have read something come back and ask some questions based on what you actually learned...

 

[MrKleen73]

Have you had your prolactin levels checked? If still elevated quite a bit that can totally screw your libido and erectile function. If so a nice high dose of mucan pruriens would probably help more than testosterone.

Also if your test levels weren't low before then adding testosterone to your system isn't going to fix your issue. If you had enough test and still had ED issues then the problem is not androgen levels.

Again, find a book on gear. there are literally hundreds of them and no doubt you can find a free PDF of one on the web... Maybe search for the Anabolic Bible, or something along those lines. Like I said they are not hard to find for free since they are ebooks people hack them all the time...

 

[Chados]

Hehe I have to admit you're a champ.. Absolutely clueless but doing whatever it takes to reach the goals.

Just read up a bit next time would you? For your own sake.

 

[jiu jitsu]

Also , what if the testostorone cant reach fat or muscle? Can the skin absorbe this ? Maybe 0.5" needle length is not enough?

have you gotten bloodwork done. only thing I can think of is:


A) your **** is fake
B) your E2 is high or low
C) your SHBG is low

 

[MrKleen73]

have you gotten bloodwork done. only thing I can think of is:


A) your **** is fake
B) your E2 is high or low
C) your SHBG is low

He has a psychological issue, and some left over ED from being on a medication a year or so ago. Between the two the decks are stacked against him in that area. Their may not be anything wrong with his hormones at all.

Not making light of it either. My head would be pretty messed up with what he mentioned happened with the "Out of his class" girl he couldn't get it up for. That stuff is scarring. It's why many of us initially asked him to see someone for this issue specifically whether that be an ED doctor or a sex therapist...

 

[jiu jitsu]

He has a psychological issue, and some left over ED from being on a medication a year or so ago. Between the two the decks are stacked against him in that area. Their may not be anything wrong with his hormones at all.

Not making light of it either. My head would be pretty messed up with what he mentioned happened with the "Out of his class" girl he couldn't get it up for. That stuff is scarring. It's why many of us initially asked him to see someone for this issue specifically whether that be an ED doctor or a sex therapist...

lol I have yet to see any bloodwork posted by him though

 

[MrKleen73]

lol I have yet to see any bloodwork posted by him though

Yeah it would be nice to see some. Hell at this point we don't even know if he has tried viagra, cialis or any other stuff but I imagine so. Jumpin straight to a cycle to get an erection would be a big jump if you hadn't tried the medicines available for the problem.

 

[belgorod]

Actually I had erection problems with many girls, unfortunately. Not only one girl. I have tried Viagra and Cialis, yes they do work, but still my erection is not perfect with them. These drugs help me to achieve %90-92 Erection quality though.

Without these drugs, it is impossible to penetrate women in certain positions. For example if the woman is on top, I cant penetrate because my penis is bending.

With these drugs it is possible, but still, Erection is not strong enough, I can feel it.

Sometimes I even use **** ring.

I havent made a blood test JUST before the steroid cycle. But at 2016, I had a blood test and my total T levels were at around 400 Ng / Dl.

 

[belgorod]

Your skin is not half an inch thick.

I assumed it may be half inch thick, because I have read that some guys and some websites are recommending 1.5" needles for Delts. Thats why I am confused. So considering this information I thought maybe my skin is more than 0.5" thick. But again, this 1.5" recommendation may be wrong, or maybe for very fat people. I dont know.

Yes I agree, my information about steroids are not so much, unfortunately...But, I think my gear is fake. Anyway this Tuesday or Wednesday we will learn everything.

 

[hairygrandpa]

This here is a body building forum, we are no experts for erectile dysfunction belgorod , even if Test gave you a better erection, the problem is still the balance of a number of hormones.
The moment exogenous test hits the system, other hormones are influenced, meaning: until a balance is reached, libido goes roller-coaster. One day = awesome boner all day -the next: "dead hung". The ester you have chosen for your experiment is wrong, test/propionate is the logical choice.

Personally, I would have tried an AI first before introducing test (I would have chosen a ED specialist first -but what the hell), getting estrogen down a little bit, Exemestane comes to mind.


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[hairygrandpa]

-deleted- double post, because the forum has erectile dysfunction too...

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[ericos_bob]

I'm gonna go out on a limb be it 2cm shorter and half mast or not and ask you if you've performed any penis extending practices in the past? Jelquing comes to mind. If so you may suffer from venous leak.

 

[mike33511]

OP, your ED could be entirely psychological and have nothing to do with your hormones. It could also be due to a hormonal issue other than your total testosterone level. You should have seen a specialist and/or gotten very comprehensive bloodwork before just deciding to mess with your hormones and inject some testosterone. There are many more hormones in your body other than testosterone: estradiol, prolactin, DHT, etc.

 

[belgorod]

This here is a body building forum, we are no experts for erectile dysfunction belgorod , even if Test gave you a better erection, the problem is still the balance of a number of hormones.
The moment exogenous test hits the system, other hormones are influenced, meaning: until a balance is reached, libido goes roller-coaster. One day = awesome boner all day -the next: "dead hung". The ester you have chosen for your experiment is wrong, test/propionate is the logical choice.

Personally, I would have tried an AI first before introducing test (I would have chosen a ED specialist first -but what the hell), getting estrogen down a little bit, Exemestane comes to mind.


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1 year ago, I used only aromasin. I have used 25 mg ED first, but after 3-4 days I feel like ****, so I reduced it to 12.5 mg ED . And I used 12.5 Mg ED for 1 month, than I quitted. My erection quality did not changed.

Also, I havent done Jelquing before.

 

[belgorod]

OP, your ED could be entirely psychological and have nothing to do with your hormones. It could also be due to a hormonal issue other than your total testosterone level. You should have seen a specialist and/or gotten very comprehensive bloodwork before just deciding to mess with your hormones and inject some testosterone. There are many more hormones in your body other than testosterone: estradiol, prolactin, DHT, etc.

Yes maybe. Anyway, Erection is not my number 1 problem right now. Because, with penis ring + drugs like Viagra, I have good ( but not perfect ) erection. With penis ring and viagra I can easily have sex. So this is not so urgent.

The number 1 problem is to getting good muscle mass.

 

[hairygrandpa]

1 year ago, I used only aromasin. I have used 25 mg ED first, but after 3-4 days I feel like ****, so I reduced it to 12.5 mg ED . And I used 12.5 Mg ED for 1 month, than I quitted. My erection quality did not changed.

Also, I havent done Jelquing before.

When I said:

Personally, I would have tried an AI first before introducing test (I would have chosen a ED specialist first -but what the hell), getting estrogen down a little bit, Exemestane comes to mind.

it would have been like 0.6mg e3d. (correction: 6mg)
25mg ED -and 12.5mg ED ? you don't even take this much on 1gr test. Who told you to use those irrational dosages?

Edit: Some people use 25mg -or 12.5mg ED on 1gr on test, I was told, that does not change the fact that you took so much without test.

 

[hairygrandpa]

Yes maybe. Anyway, Erection is not my number 1 problem right now. Because, with penis ring + drugs like Viagra, I have good ( but not perfect ) erection. With penis ring and viagra I can easily have sex. So this is not so urgent.

The number 1 problem is to getting good muscle mass.

-How long do you train (years)?
-any stats on lifts?
-your weight, age, height?
-BF % ?

Stop using AI's until sides appear, suppressing estrogen counters muscle growth, recovery and healing.

 

[belgorod]

I have trained only for 7-8 months totally, but these are not continious.

I mean 2-3 months and than break up for 1 year, and than again 1 month etc. But total of 7-8 months in my life time.

My max deadlift is 350 Lbs, Benchpress is 135 Lbs x 8 Reps.

My body is around 165 Lbs, I think %18-20 BF, age 26, height 5 Ft 9

But my body is weird. I have 16" calves but only 13" arms.

 

[belgorod]

When I said: it would have been like 0.6mg e3d.
25mg ED -and 12.5mg ED ? you don't even take this much on 1gr test. Who told you to use those irrational dosages?

Edit: Some people use 25mg -or 12.5mg ED on 1gr on test, I was told, that does not change the fact that you took so much without test.

Aromasin dosages are like this, each tablet is 25 Mg. And tablet is very small. So 0.6 mg is impossible. You confuse it with arimidex I think ?

 

[hairygrandpa]

Aromasin dosages are like this, each tablet is 25 Mg. And tablet is very small. So 0.6 mg is impossible. You confuse it with arimidex I think ?

Correct! My bad! 6.0mg, a quarter tablet if you are not on test, to see what happens.

 

[mike33511]

I have trained only for 7-8 months totally, but these are not continious.

I mean 2-3 months and than break up for 1 year, and than again 1 month etc. But total of 7-8 months in my life time.

My max deadlift is 350 Lbs, Benchpress is 135 Lbs x 8 Reps.

My body is around 165 Lbs, I think %18-20 BF, age 26, height 5 Ft 9

But my body is weird. I have 16" calves but only 13" arms.

You will never have good results if you don't go to the gym consistently, even with steroids. You need to forget about steroids for the time being. Instead, grow the fck up and learn to commit to something for more than 2 months at a time.

 

[hairygrandpa]

I have trained only for 7-8 months totally, but these are not continious.

I mean 2-3 months and than break up for 1 year, and than again 1 month etc. But total of 7-8 months in my life time.

My max deadlift is 350 Lbs, Benchpress is 135 Lbs x 8 Reps.

My body is around 165 Lbs, I think %18-20 BF, age 26, height 5 Ft 9

But my body is weird. I have 16" calves but only 13" arms.

That is awful. Really. Now that you are on test, how does your training look? diet?

 

[belgorod]

Correct! My bad! 6.0mg, a quarter tablet if you are not on test, to see what happens.

As I said before, at 2016 Summer I was experienced with 12.5 Mg ED. Only Aromasin, because at that time I did not wanted to use Testostorone etc. So I just wanted to use Aromasin alone to increase my T levels. I did not tried 6 Mg.