Honestly in comparison to SD or M1T it is VERY mild. Any steroid can cause issues if abused.So can any drug and its also false compared to what? Your opinions? Another steroid? Its a relative comparison that I made. I wasn't trying to say its like drinking a glass of water kind of mild..obviously. :veryhappy:
i have lumps under my both nipples, how this sound to you??? :hitwithrock:
acne was so bad, i have to stop on 8th week..
8 weeks of a straight cycle, or the pulse theory method?
8week straight.. 20/30/30/40/40/40/50/60 or something like that, can't remember now.
Thank God for acne.
i didin't think run for no longer than 8weeks any way, but i have to i stop on 7and half week.. i k'now i k'now it is long run, but i did it and i'm a live in it? lol
What was your PCT and did you have the gyno before your 8 week cycle of Epistane? Running a hormonal (steroid) to get rid of gyno that may have been induced by such, seems a bit ignorant and a bad idea.
pct was nolva 40/40/20/10 clomid 25/25/0/0 + plus all other supps..
Just keep in mind that Epi is not recommened for gyno removal. I would try the letro 1st. I would never recommend a steriod pulse or not for gyno purposes.
No you do not take a break during the pulse. I am not sure how effective a h-drol pulse will be.
true dat. H-drol won't shut u down. run it good.
but it still gives results.. so run it.
i disagree....any ph will shut you down....you putting exogenous androgens in your body....its negative feedback
No, you can do a continous pulse but the side effects will be greater.
This method is recommended by Dr. D in order to avoid side effects and the need for PCT.
Lumps under the nipples are common in men who do not even use steroids. It also does not constitute gyno unless you have actual mammary gland tissue growth. Do you have man boobs? Those lumps you can have removed surgically easily if thats all you have. If you do have actual breast enlargement, I feel sorry for you and you should seek medical help. What kind of acne made you stop? Papules, nodes , cysts? You should know that all drugs and their side effects are patient specific. They all effect us differently. Acne as a side effect is pretty common with steroids and to me, a pretty mild side effect.So after an 8 week cycle of Epi you got bad acne compared to a 4 week SD cycle. Thats an unfair comparison 1. because the cycles were run for different lengths and 2.You have not stated what your blood work was like before and after either of them, you are only basing that on the superficial. :stooges:
h-drol will rarely make it hard to get ur junk up, or ever need a extreme pct. Shutdown is always to a point, but people recover very easily from ph's like h-drol.
i have a friend who used that with great success once, its a top test booster in my opinion.
It is a good test booster but not a PH.
i don't k'now what acne it was, but it was on neck, legs, arms, face, belly, and mostly on back and big spots, i even have scars now..
Really? By real doctors? If that's the case, why is it just limited to the world of oral steroid use? I can't find any pharm drugs that have this theory for use to limit sides.
You have not looked very hard my friend. It is quite well known and is being researched for use in antibiotics. I have stolen these links from another post but knew of pulsing from before Dr.D , although in his pulsing thread he mentions where he first got his idea from.
I've read some of those, as well as a few others. There again, in my opinion, I do not like the theory.
Fair enough.We are all entitled. I have run both kinds of cycles and can say IMO that I am a believer.
Do these other drugs your talking about put your hormones on a roller coaster?
Would you describe your pulse protocol? Length of cycle dosages pct?
do post cycles have pct??
Well I wouldn't call it a "roller coaster" from research and experience. The info is out there as to why. The other "drugs" that are non-hormonal I would say from what I know, would be no to your answer for obvious reasons. Doctors and scientists are just recently experimenting with other drugs using the multi pulse protocol and having good results. Did you experience that feeling or do you assume that that is what happens to your body when pulsing a drug, steroids in particular?
At 5'10 169 pounds no, I will not describe my methods for you. I am sorry. I would rather encourage you to go much farther naturally, before embarking on the other path. If you need advice on that you may PM me and I will be happy to help you.
That is up for debate. I used much less than most people think is reasonable, some would say not at all. I also experimented with my PCT and am very happy with the outcome.
well kinda like carb cycling, and that only produces good results for losing fat yes? i know thats hard to compare haha, but its not alarming your body to reduce test activity, and without any noticeable feedback, i'm not sure i can make a case against the pulse. Unless there is, i haven't looked into the pulse much, just a new idea that i've thought of maybe for the summer.
I am all set. Pulse if you like but I choose not to.well kinda like carb cycling, and that only produces good results for losing fat yes? i know thats hard to compare haha, but its not alarming your body to reduce test activity, and without any noticeable feedback, i'm not sure i can make a case against the pulse. Unless there is, i haven't looked into the pulse much, just a new idea that i've thought of maybe for the summer.
enlighten me
o ok nvm, was just lookin for anymore in depth input on how it affects you, i'll check somewhere else, just trying to learn what i can about it
This site is all about opinions and yours is appreciated. Dr. D has a solid reputation. I believe that pulsing in a relatively new concept and like most new concepts they are generally met with skepticism. Skepticism is not necessarily a bad thing.
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