The two I've had the best results from are Speed Xtreme Ultra Concentrate from Lecheek Nutrition and Muscle Marinade from Purus Labs.
Lol....it usually takes me 2 cups of coffee every morning just to open my eyes!Then do what I do take a break from stim based pre workouts and just limit yourself to caffeine. It's not the best way to detox but it's better then nothing.
I tried Muscle Marinade two years ago. I didn't feel much from it but I was probably already on too much junk. Maybe it's time to try it again!?!The two I've had the best results from are Speed Xtreme Ultra Concentrate from Lecheek Nutrition and Muscle Marinade from Purus Labs.
2 scoops hemavol (it is stim free) plus a little caffeine and I bet you won't feel so flat.Lol....it usually takes me 2 cups of coffee every morning just to open my eyes!
You are doing the right thing to detox. I should follow your example.....I just hate coming up flat during a workout - on or off my cycles!
Sounds all too familiar! Caffeine rarely keeps me awake! I think my blood plasma is now 50% caffeine and 50% hematocrit/plasma, lol2 scoops hemavol (it is stim free) plus a little caffeine and I bet you won't feel so flat.
I'm the same way when it comes to caffeine / stims.. This last month I was using a pre workout twice a day and not I can take 300mg of caffeine and go to sleep. Soooo now I must ween off...
agree...the others I have no experience withIn no particular order:
-Focus XT
-Hemavol
-Body Octane
-Pump-bol
-Fierce
-C4
No Maximize Intense or Hemavol!!!!!! AHHHHHHHH! I saw 4 kids take Dark Rage once...3 of them were peeing from their butt intra workout.Hey guys (and gals!)......I'm seeking opinions on what you think the best pre work out "stimulant" product is. I've tried so many over the past three years and frequently change products because I adapt so quickly. Let me know which ones you've tried and which give you the best/worst boost before and during a work out. Also, let me know which ones you feel are the worst with respect to post workout "crash".
Here are many of the ones I've already tried.
- Jak3d
- Black Powder
- Super Pump
- N.O. Explode
- N. O. Explode2
- N.O. Overload
- Ripped Freak
- Blast Powder
- N.O. Shotgun
- Hemo Rage Black
- Napalm
- White Flood
- Dark Rage
I wouldn't label anything by miles ahead of Max Intense/Hemavol. Maybe inches. At mostMy humble opinion ...Craze by miles.
Trae sent me a sample of the Monster Pump. 2 scoops being 1 true serving:agree...the others I have no experience with
surprised by the inclusion of Monster Pump though...not sure I've ever even looked at it
not the biggest Gaspari fan anymore, but SuperPump Max has always been pretty good for me as well
Excellent profile for the price.Trae sent me a sample of the Monster Pump. 2 scoops being 1 true serving:
lol got banned ey?Lmao @ rochabp. Dude, I think my adrenals have long since burned out from PWO!!!!
Ouch 2 scoops being the true 1 serving is rough with you only getting 15 scoops.Trae sent me a sample of the Monster Pump. 2 scoops being 1 true serving:
$2/sv is not that much considering the ingredients.Ouch 2 scoops being the true 1 serving is rough with you only getting 15 scoops.
Well, given the profile...I have taken quite a few and really like EFX K-Otic. I'm surprised nobody has mentioned it.
tried it, wasn't a fan. Good for late lifting boost, but not on par with the craze IMO.Anyone try Bullnox. I liked it and noticed strength increases even better than Craze. Had a lower stim tolerance then though. Liked it better than Assault, Jack3d, D1MR, Lit Up, RPM, SP Max, NO Explode and etc. That Monster Pump looks solid.
Please elaborate; thanks.Well, given the profile...
I'm not saying the ingredient profile is superb its a solid product for sure. But it just seems pricey to me, i like MAN's Clout, you can usually find it fairly cheap with very good profile.$2/sv is not that much considering the ingredients.
It's approx the same price as SPMax and Bodyoctane, wich a lot of ppl like.
Assault is a very good pre-workout. I come back to it often.I LOVE MusclePharm's ASSAULT! Wow! You can stack it with their NO amplifier, HYBRID. Stuff is like having an air intake system! I have tried MANY pre workouts. BSN NO-XPLODE, VPX, Jack3d, White Flood, Amino Energy, the list goes on. ASSAULT has been, hands down, best for me. No crash either. It's safe, even for people with kidney/liver issues. It's not banned by any Athletic Association. Solid stuff! I have all my friends on it now. It's a big product for the NFL and UFC. Definitely worth trying. A full scoop has 5gms Creatine. The serving size is either half scoop or full scoop depending on the intensity of your workout. I also use Scivation Xtend BCAA's powder after for cardio. Gives quick energy. Hope that helps
i guess this is one of those times where different sups do different things to different people. 1 full scoop of hemorage ultra felt like 1 scoop of Jack3d, and I normally do 3. I can't take jack3d within 6-7 hrs of bedtime and expect to sleep, but took a nap after returning home from the gym on hemorage ultra.idk how you guys even used jack3d, that stuff is GARBAGE. never worked for me.
3 scoops barely feel it.
Honestly, i can do 1/2 to 1 full scoop of assault and im GOOD TO GO!!
or try out litup, that is a good one w/ daa, prob take erase with it.
and idk if you like that hemorage black that stuff is garbage too, but hemorage ULTRA CONCENTRATE!? that stuff WORKS!
I just bought assault and I hate it! The scoop size is insane and you have to choke down a huge drink. Also I don't feel anything from a double serving. Guess I'm spoiled by the hemo rage black ultra concentrate such small scoops and good potency. Hemorage doesn't do the same for me anymore though.Anyone try these (online reviews seem favorable)
- Presurge Unleashed
- Assault
- Supercharge Xtreme N.O.
craze is $30 on amazon, and it's available from a "prime" supplier (2 day free shipping)C4 Extreme
1MR
Craze (banned)
Craze banned? Idk bout that...C4 Extreme
1MR
Craze (banned)
Craze (banned)
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