any chance for bulk 1,4ad powder

wojo · Jul 23, 2007

stxnas said:
I'm pretty sure DSADE tried to go through MN to do this and he never heard back...I would take that as a "no, this is not likely to happen."

we are asking about the diol now not the dione...

bdc used to sell the caps

wheels · Jul 23, 2007

wojo said:
we are asking about the diol now not the dione...

bdc used to sell the caps

bump

stxnas · Jul 23, 2007

wojo said:
we are asking about the diol now not the dione...

bdc used to sell the caps

My mistake...carry on...:ntome:

fritzer · Jul 23, 2007

diol is better no?
WE NEED MORE SUPPORT, dsade can do it if anyone can

thesinner · Jul 24, 2007

fritzer said:
diol is better no?
WE NEED MORE SUPPORT, dsade can do it if anyone can

higher conversion rate & (in theory) a higher absorption rate.

Mass_69 · Jul 24, 2007

Not too mention, no direct aromatization from the -diol form.

wheels · Jul 24, 2007

Mass_69 said:
Not too mention, no direct aromatization from the -diol form.

NP help we're in need of some diol ?

dsade · Jul 25, 2007

wheels said:
BUMP WHAT ABOUT IT DSADE ?

I can get diol pretty easily. It looks like it is running around $1.50 per gram right now.

quigs · Jul 25, 2007

dsade said:
I can get diol pretty easily. It looks like it is running around $1.50 per gram right now.

Do it.

wheels · Jul 25, 2007

quigs said:
Do it.

I second that motion,dsade your the man.

dsade · Jul 25, 2007

If Mr. Llewellyn would answer emails, it would make this process a whole lot easier.

I'm not sure if he has zero interest in enforcing his patent issues on the dione or not. We are perfectly willing to provide him with what he is entitled to, but we would also like to be able to sell both versions.

stxnas · Jul 25, 2007

You're good man; much respect for the above statement!

fritzer · Jul 25, 2007

DSADE 1.50 a gram, you got a deal!!!!!!!!! DO IT DO IT DO IT DO IT!!! COME ON GUYS!!!

I WANT! i will buy enough to make it worth your while myself!!

fritzer · Jul 25, 2007

muahahahaha i am gonna run 4g a day

Mass_69 · Jul 25, 2007

fritzer said:
DSADE 1.50 a gram, you got a deal!!!!!!!!! DO IT DO IT DO IT DO IT!!! COME ON GUYS!!!

I WANT! i will buy enough to make it worth your while myself!!

Yeah, um, what he said...

wojo · Jul 25, 2007

ah just methylate the dione ..patents shmatents..lol..:rofl:

dsade · Jul 25, 2007

wojo said:
ah just methylate the dione ..patents shmatents..lol..:rofl:

Actually, I think the patent paperwork was methylated for longer lasting protection from competitors.

ersatz · Jul 25, 2007

dsade said:
I can get diol pretty easily. It looks like it is running around $1.50 per gram right now.

Is that cost to the consumer? If so I'll buy 500g right now. Any ETA?

thesinner · Jul 25, 2007

dsade said:
Actually, I think the patent paperwork was methylated for longer lasting protection from competitors.

let's use a different alkyl then. ethyl-1,4-diol

dsade · Jul 25, 2007

ersatz said:
Is that cost to the consumer? If so I'll buy 500g right now. Any ETA?

Yes, this would be cost to the consumer.

wojo · Jul 25, 2007

thesinner said:
let's use a different alkyl then. ethyl-1,4-diol

thp ether would work also..the dione tho is very orally active that why he sold the dione..also why pa first introduced the 1-adione..but that had a nasty side effect..the diol worked great tho too

fritzer · Jul 26, 2007

im in LETS DO IT... ETA ETA ETA

neoborn · Jul 26, 2007

stxnas said:
You're good man; much respect for the above statement!

Yup and he doesn't spit either :nono::food:

dsade · Jul 26, 2007

fritzer said:
im in LETS DO IT... ETA ETA ETA

Just waiting for the greenlight from the big boss.

Skircus7 · Jul 26, 2007

dsade said:
Just waiting for the greenlight from the big boss.

o snap! :thumbsup: :head:

quigs · Jul 26, 2007

dsade said:
Just waiting for the greenlight from the big boss.

Cool, this really made my day. Looking forward to seeing this happen...

wojo · Jul 26, 2007

what no reps it was my idea for the diol.....lol

fritzer · Jul 26, 2007

YAAAAAAAY. YAAAAAY. haha, made my week. All these thoughts of like 5g a day... mmmmmmm

stxnas · Jul 26, 2007

In all seriousness though...what are realistic doseages to take daily IE minimum needed to see effects and maximum before causing bad sides/dminishing returns?

I know that IForce Bold seems to be needed at starting doses of 800mg per day.

dsade · Jul 26, 2007

In all honestly I would run about a gram a day of this.

wheels · Jul 26, 2007

dsade said:
In all honestly I would run about a gram a day of this.

Would you still run a gram/day if you were stacking it with some other compounds ?

dsade · Jul 26, 2007

wheels said:
Would you still run a gram/day if you were stacking it with some other compounds ?

Yep.

quigs · Jul 26, 2007

stxnas said:
In all seriousness though...what are realistic doseages to take daily IE minimum needed to see effects and maximum before causing bad sides/dminishing returns?

I know that IForce Bold seems to be needed at starting doses of 800mg per day.

If i'm not mistaken, the conversion rate for 1,4AD is estimated at around 10-12% average...and I've seen estimates as high as 15% conversion to boldenone. If we do the math here, at the low end (10% conversion) 800mg/day would give us roughly 80mg of boldenone. This translates to around 560mg boldenone/week. I'd think that most would get pretty solid results from this dosage...especially if stacking with one of the popular designers.

So yeah, I'm pretty pumped to see this happen...

dsade · Jul 26, 2007

This one is a pet project of mine, guys....I am a big fan of this oral and at this price I am going to push hard for it to happen VERY soon.

WebDesigner · Jul 26, 2007

woot, woot cant wait to see this here. The possibilities are awesome.

spitboy2000 · Jul 26, 2007

can you transderm this?

dsade · Jul 26, 2007

spitboy2000 said:
can you transderm this?

No reason to.

wojo · Jul 26, 2007

at that price why wouldnt u run a gram a day..a 1,4diol/havoc stack would kick ass..total havoc addict anyway..this would compliment it very nicely

ersatz · Jul 26, 2007

Can't arrive soon enough. Hopefully NP gets a few kilos as this will go quickly. Will this be tested by a lab to ensure quality and any timeframe for this?

dsade · Jul 26, 2007

ersatz said:
Can't arrive soon enough. Hopefully NP gets a few kilos as this will go quickly. Will this be tested by a lab to ensure quality and any timeframe for this?

We can have the material in a week or two. Testing will be performed, of course.

Mass_69 · Jul 26, 2007

dsade, are you going to offer it as powder, or cap it?

shakti · Jul 26, 2007

hope NP gets enuff of this, it will fly.......i only want 100 grams

dsade · Jul 26, 2007

Mass_69 said:
dsade, are you going to offer it as powder, or cap it?

Powder.

powerhouse21 · Jul 27, 2007

shakti said:
hope NP gets enuff of this, it will fly.......i only want 100 grams

me too!

neoborn · Jul 27, 2007

How much are you getting roughly D to the sade?

fritzer · Jul 27, 2007

man this is beautiful, a dream come true.

ersatz · Jul 27, 2007

fritzer said:
man this is beautiful, a dream come true.

Indeed, just made my day. I was thinking of getting 500g but may opt for a lower amount so more have the opportunity to get some.

powerhouse21 · Jul 27, 2007

ersatz said:
Indeed, just made my day. I was thinking of getting 500g but may opt for a lower amount so more have the opportunity to get some.

i appreciate that...now i can buy 200g instead of 100g :thumbsup:

fritzer · Jul 27, 2007

cant wait to be veiny as a horse

WebDesigner · Jul 27, 2007

fritzer said:
cant wait to be veiny as a horse

actually, a solid diet will do that for you not a pro-hormone.

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