im sorry my question is redundant. It just bothered me to learn that the claims are not even possible. I meant to direct my question for the consumers point of view though, I forgot to put that. BTW mullet I have prime and some other stuff im planning to run soon. I am going to be consulting you so that i can get the most out of it...unlike AP.
In terms of the 100% Money-back guarantee, it must be purchased from usplabsdirect.com. E-mail me at the address below, and send me ;a) a receipt; b) an empty bottle, and I will have another full bottle sent to your address, free of shipping and/or other associated charges. However, this rests on one fundamental condition: You reserve your commentary on the product until after you have finished an entire thirty-day run, and you allow me to construct your diet/dosing scheme in conjunction with any other products you may be taking.
by the way:
No need to apologize, merely pointing out this discussion would not be labelled the definition of 'Democratic' (i.e., myself answering the same line of questioning several times, in response to several different individuals).
Well, as I said, you appear to simply be a non-responder; in addition, I do not know which meals specifically you used the product with. If you had spoken to me before, I would have eliminated all possibilities of negative response based on your perceived Insulin metabolism, diet, and training, and constructed what - in my eyes - would have been a successful protocol. It is somewhat difficult after the fact, and suggesting alternatives may appear as if I am discounting your knowledge and experience.
I do totally understand your concerns on this issue; it's a product that did nothing for you. But, am I alone in understanding that this is the internet, and this is probably not the only thread on the internet which is geared toward the same goal ... also, with the popularity of the product, I would guess that more and more non responders and poor responders are going to pop up...some with valid reasoning, some with poor attempts at usage.
I'd be far happier if just the numbers portions were modified. of this whole chunk
I feel that is more accurate, and could be validated by anecdotal feedback and beta-testing. The insinuation that both are occurring simultaneously in all but extreme cases (i.e., the extreme obese) necessarily cannot be - that being said, I am not sure the implication that they are mutually inclusive was the intention.
That is fair.
I say that perhaps a disclaimer would be sufficient....
I dunno, I do demos handing out samples at Vitamin Shoppe stores, and i've had 135lb 5'10 20 year olds asking me where they can buy needles.... And watched 18 year olds buy decavol from AMS, and other hormonal products. I think that maybe your example has helped show them that, but sadly plenty of kids dont have a decent role model. I ask them about what their diet is like and the answer is always "I eat everything I can" but can't give specifics of even the day before. It bothers me, as at that age protein from whole foods is all you need.
yeah when i worked at VS i had 12-14 year olds coming in and asking for steroids. people coming in asked us to inject. it was nuts and extremely disappointing
wow. dumbass. hopefully he didnt inject all 20mL at once thinking he was supposed to...
That's just crazy. You'd think they would have some common sense about putting stuff into their body, they're probably still living with their parents. I don't get why guys at the gym would ven sell that stuff to them.
I agree, that it might be kind of hard on you to ask after-the-fact questions, but..
I could most definitely offer a few postulates as to why you did not respond. Firstly, though, how would you rate your carbohydrate metabolism, historically? (On a scale of 1-10, 1 being extremely poor and predisposed to adipose gain, 10 being almost non-responsive).
Good point, but if you truncate often enough, you'll be missing a lot of data after a while.
hard to say what really happens to the average person who turns to supplements to help them
If it eases your concern, I do bi-monthly reports that cover every aspect of our operation: Forum traffic, consumer concerns, product performance, representative performance and so on; I try to keep a fairly keen eye on all aspects pertinent to USP Labs. I also do my best to track response vs., non-response in threads exactly such as this one. That is why I reply in threads, regardless of the eventual outcome of the user.
cool beans
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That is what I was thinking.
Well, as you said you are predisposed to adipose gain from CHO intake, I would have suggested you starting out with both lower AP-specific CHO (carbohydrates in the meals you eat AP with) and your macronutrient profile (total CHO intake). If that did not produce any type of substantive result, I would have suggested a fasted cardiovascular training/resistance training protocol that has worked quite well for many people.
http://anabolicminds.com/forum/workout-logs/96784-b5150-transcending-agedness.html
Pslin's MOA is a bit different right and wouldnt likely work quite as well in that same scenario? I know I have more pslin left than AP
I started at 40g carbs with AP meals. I think it was in week 3 where my weight had remained steady for at least 7 days, so I added more carbs to get around 50g. Scale weight gain resumed at the price of fat gain. After week 5 is when it may have slid up closer to 55-60g (not as a reactive decision, more like a preemptive choice to not get stuck at a weight again)
I've tried fasted resistance training in the past, and it didn't work well for me.
This reminds me -- I forgot to mention that one of my "base supplements" is NOW Super Enzymes to help digestion. I've been taking one tab with every meal for long enough that I forget it's a supplement I guess. I'll edit OP to include this fact.
That's fine if I'm SOL, but it might help someone else if you elaborate what the alterations involve. I'm also curious.
Steroids? Yeah I do steroids. I eat that ****ing *hit for breakfast lunch and dinner. PROTEIN! POWERBARS! HGH!
That's a shame man, wow!
So i have to walk that line between supportive, and trying to have her be open to thinking about other things
Alterations would be to utilize AP in conjunction with fasted states of resistance training - i.e., morning training (isotonics: Weight Lifting) and/or cardiovascular training, and/or ingesting AP without carbohydrates prior to training. Check out the link I posted; Brian did very well with it.
I would have never thought of that.
In terms of fasted states of resistance training? In that context, unfortunately, no. I feel that would merely confuse the general populous in order to serve a majority; though, I feel it is a highly successful protocol for those with already slightly deficient Insulin Metabolism (such as yourself).
I'll see if I can read through it during the week.
Both. Brian experienced a significant recomposition effect, while gaining strength almost every single workout. The thread is really incredibly informational. Rather than regurgitate, I will direct you to the first page; it contains all of the pertinent, scientific explanations for why it works.
With P-Slin, I would use it prior and increase your CHO intake. How do you respond to P-Slin? I find most AP non-responders do quite well with P-Slin.
I can't really give an honest opinion yet, as i don't feel i have used it enough, and never used it pre-wo in it's intended fashion.
I just figured something out. He does in fact have superior jeans.
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I'm thinking you missed it above, but would pslin (given its differences) be usable in a fasted preworkout situation as well? Or is its MOA different enough that it wouldnt work so well?
I think you still need to manipulate your CHO intake pre-WO to take advantage of it's MOA, but only in the case that you are an HSP and also an LSBD that recently visited PP on a HTB.
No, I would suggest against it. AP is applicable in that sense because it inhibits cellular respiration, and therefore allosterically activates AMPk; AMPk is the primary anti-lipolytic in AP, and achieves this through several very interesting mechanisms! In short, it vastly increases the hydrolyzation of stored WAT, and subsequent mitochondrial B-Oxidation of FAs/TGs. That achieves two effects, pertinent to our lifestyle:
Well, unfortunately it is the ingredient AP and Neovar do not share that accomplishes that feat!
