Alright guys I know that this issue has been brought up millions of freaking times on every board around, but here it goes again.
First off I am not predisposed to gyno, I never had it as a adolescent. I have done 1 cycle of a PH before, I ran HDROL and Tren for 6 weeks, and had no gyno related issues. I used a SERM (Nolva) PCT for this cycle and kept all 12 lbs of weight gained....
I am running my second cycle, consisting solely of CEL HDROL. I planned on running a 6 week cycle @ 75mg per day. I am running CEL Cycle Assist, Liv52, VIT C, Fish Oil, CoQ10, ALA, and have added in several additional doses of hawthorn berries and milk thistle, because I have been eating out a lot ( I am aware that Cycle Assist possess both of these ingredients). I planned on using Nolvadex as PCT. I am on the week 2ish going on 3rd week of Hdrol cycle and have been having some slight gyno(?) related issues. I am 5ft11in, 210 lbs, 13-14% BF (approx): mainly because I bulked pre-cycle and I am bulking during this cycle.
I know that Hdrol doesn't really aromatize and is relatively mild with regards to side effects, especially compared to other PH's. However I do understand that any type of hormonal change can bring about unwanted side effects, such as gyno. I also know that any type of PH will cause slight irritation/sensitivity, etc. in the nipple region and that people do have a tendency to over react and be paranoid with diagnosing gyno. I know that every NOOB thinks that they have gyno.....
I am outta state on business trip (thus the eating out more frequently) so I don't have my camera on me, this is why I haven't posted any photos.
Four days ago I noticed some slight tenderness/tingling, almost burning sensation in both of my nipples. I experienced this sensitivity infrequently (3-4 times maybe?) during my last cycle so I didn't take it to heart. I haven't felt this tingling sensation since then, but I have been checking my nipples more frequently (paranoid I know). My right nipple seems to be developing something that I can only describe as "fibrous tissue" on the top/right side of the nipple. When I press my right nipple in I also feel a slight growth (similar to a small pebble/stone/bump perhaps?) under the nipple. The pebble like growth seems to be getting denser/thicker over the past several days. My right nipple is not really elevated, but way more "defined", when compared to my left nipple. The right nipple is also slightly larger then my left nipple (approx. 1/6 of an inch perhaps ?). I have not experienced any pain, etc.
My question is, what do I do? Does this sound like the the onset signs of gyno? I've seen so much information and disinformation on the subject via the internet that I don't know how to proceed...
Should I end my cycle immediately and begin PCT? Consisting of Nolva? If so, how do I dose Nolva and PCT duration for a barely 2 week cycle of HDROL?
OR.....
Should I continue cycle my cycle and dose Nolva 10mg per day, until cycle end and then begin PCT at 6 weeks in as planned?
OR.....
Do I say f*** the Nolva and get some Letro? and run this? Immediately or after cycle? If so, how do I dose Letro (mg dosage and for what duration for a 2-3 week cycle). I would also have to wait a week before I can get Letro....
OR....
Any other option. I really need your expert help on this! It sucks to because the Hdrol hasn't really kicked in yet....in terms of lean gains....
Thanks,
Xerxes
First off I am not predisposed to gyno, I never had it as a adolescent. I have done 1 cycle of a PH before, I ran HDROL and Tren for 6 weeks, and had no gyno related issues. I used a SERM (Nolva) PCT for this cycle and kept all 12 lbs of weight gained....
I am running my second cycle, consisting solely of CEL HDROL. I planned on running a 6 week cycle @ 75mg per day. I am running CEL Cycle Assist, Liv52, VIT C, Fish Oil, CoQ10, ALA, and have added in several additional doses of hawthorn berries and milk thistle, because I have been eating out a lot ( I am aware that Cycle Assist possess both of these ingredients). I planned on using Nolvadex as PCT. I am on the week 2ish going on 3rd week of Hdrol cycle and have been having some slight gyno(?) related issues. I am 5ft11in, 210 lbs, 13-14% BF (approx): mainly because I bulked pre-cycle and I am bulking during this cycle.
I know that Hdrol doesn't really aromatize and is relatively mild with regards to side effects, especially compared to other PH's. However I do understand that any type of hormonal change can bring about unwanted side effects, such as gyno. I also know that any type of PH will cause slight irritation/sensitivity, etc. in the nipple region and that people do have a tendency to over react and be paranoid with diagnosing gyno. I know that every NOOB thinks that they have gyno.....
I am outta state on business trip (thus the eating out more frequently) so I don't have my camera on me, this is why I haven't posted any photos.
Four days ago I noticed some slight tenderness/tingling, almost burning sensation in both of my nipples. I experienced this sensitivity infrequently (3-4 times maybe?) during my last cycle so I didn't take it to heart. I haven't felt this tingling sensation since then, but I have been checking my nipples more frequently (paranoid I know). My right nipple seems to be developing something that I can only describe as "fibrous tissue" on the top/right side of the nipple. When I press my right nipple in I also feel a slight growth (similar to a small pebble/stone/bump perhaps?) under the nipple. The pebble like growth seems to be getting denser/thicker over the past several days. My right nipple is not really elevated, but way more "defined", when compared to my left nipple. The right nipple is also slightly larger then my left nipple (approx. 1/6 of an inch perhaps ?). I have not experienced any pain, etc.
My question is, what do I do? Does this sound like the the onset signs of gyno? I've seen so much information and disinformation on the subject via the internet that I don't know how to proceed...
Should I end my cycle immediately and begin PCT? Consisting of Nolva? If so, how do I dose Nolva and PCT duration for a barely 2 week cycle of HDROL?
OR.....
Should I continue cycle my cycle and dose Nolva 10mg per day, until cycle end and then begin PCT at 6 weeks in as planned?
OR.....
Do I say f*** the Nolva and get some Letro? and run this? Immediately or after cycle? If so, how do I dose Letro (mg dosage and for what duration for a 2-3 week cycle). I would also have to wait a week before I can get Letro....
OR....
Any other option. I really need your expert help on this! It sucks to because the Hdrol hasn't really kicked in yet....in terms of lean gains....
Thanks,
Xerxes