He really leaned out well. Now he says he was dieting so that's part of it regardless of supplementation for sure. If you check my log though I'm leaning up also and I'm NOT dieting. So I would say it has value. Whether its worth the price is personal I guess. Its high but with the 25% off that they've been running its not bad. I would say its worth that price.So after everything you would still recommend it even tho the price tag, I know you said yes but is the value really there. I've been trying to keep up with other logs to see for myself the results etc and you done a good job! Or should I at-least give the product a chance one day regardless of price?