Trying to decide which one to pickup for my next natty cycle.
With anything natty diet is going to have the be really dialed in. I didn't gain as much weight on ARA as some other have claimed but it might be worth a shot. X Gels with an emulsifier would be a good choice.Size and strength
Ara plus Tr1umph from Olympus Labs and Follidrone would be a great stack i would do those and drop the diesel test if you want to stay to 3 products.Was gonna run diesel test, ara or follidrone, plus soy granules
kind of yes. The omega-6 fatty acids(what ArA is comprised of) promote inflammation which leads to greater muscle damage/repair/growth. I would definitely try out ArA from X-gels or x-factor first simply because you already have SL as the emulsifier and there is a lot more data behind ArA (not to say FD 2.0 isn't good).I thought it was counter productive to run follidrone and ara together. One is anti and one is inflammatory.
You just have to take the follidrone at a different time instead of pre-workout. I would do 1 am and 1 pm.I thought it was counter productive to run follidrone and ara together. One is anti and one is inflammatory.
I'd recommend ABE and x gels if you're going for size and strength.Size and strength
What is your favorite Epicatechin product?I've ran epicathecins numerous times and still running it at the moment. I respond to them quite well but for bulk, muscle fullness/pump and strength ara is still my favorite natty product. Only downside and a big one at that for me is the pro inflammatory effect. I can never run it before I do my annual bloodwork.
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If the 1st generation epicathecin products didn't work for you the second generation might be an improvement but don't expect it to blow your mind. Only way to know is to try a bottle. Some people are just non responders, just like me and nitrate products, GDAs, yohimbe (due to negative sides), oral trest, etc.What is your favorite Epicatechin product?
I ran two products of the older generation with very minor success and would like to try a new product with a better absorption technology to give it a last try.
Ok thanks for the info. Yes, I tried Follidrone 1.0 among the two products with not too much success.If the 1st generation epicathecin products didn't work for you the second generation might be an improvement but don't expect it to blow your mind. Only way to know is to try a bottle. Some people are just non responders, just like me and nitrate products, GDAs, yohimbe (due to negative sides), oral trest, etc.
To answer your question my favorite that I've tried multiple times was follidrone. Now I'm on the 2nd gen epicathecin and is topping version 1 of follidrone for me. It's called epicurus from spartan nutrition. I have yet to try v2 of follidrone so when I run that too I'd be able to judge what works best or if they're comparable. And if you're sort of familiar with its effects one would know that spacing this thing out throughout the day would be best bit the price is just too expensive to do so. At optimal dose you'd spend at least $100/month for a natty product.
What are some of these bad sides you speak of? Interested in 2.0 just wondering... Thanks.ArA (xgels) for sure... its proven, studied, and doesn't have the bad sides some have had with 2.0
I believe a few guys experienced some GI gastro issuesWhat are some of these bad sides you speak of? Interested in 2.0 just wondering... Thanks.
What were the actual GI issues that everyone talks about? I had my own issues, but not those. I'm tinkering around with some other things to try and avoid the lethargy and joint issues I had when I first tried it and it seems to be working.I believe a few guys experienced some GI gastro issues
Interesting. Im the same. TD, though, is a completely different story.Some people are just non responders, just like me and...oral trest
Oral trest? I know it's in there so it's not bunk. I tried 3 caps one time, no pump or any acute effects of strength whatsoever. I still take it when I'm on a trest cycle because it's a waste since I had a few bottles.Interesting. Im the same. TD, though, is a completely different story.
It's 100% unnecessary, totally nonhormonalDid any of guys PCT off of follidrone 2.0? Or is it not necessary bc it's non hormonal?
Please dont post ads for competing products in FD2 threads. Poor form bro.http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplement-deals/284437-nutraceutical-innovations-xgels.html
Xgels at 20% off is a screaming deal, you can't miss with either tho! ArA offers nice pumps and strength, def aides in a bulk. Follidrone 2.0 leaNed me up a bit, def nice for a recomp.
No reason to run a PCT.Did any of guys PCT off of follidrone 2.0? Or is it not necessary bc it's non hormonal?
Letrone is an AI and natural anabolic. Great for fat loss as it increases metabolism T3 and t4.What's a good stack non hormonad to use follidrone 2.0 with? I am trying to cut some body fat
Exactly....Brundel from BLR has said this before.I thought it was counter productive to run follidrone and ara together. One is anti and one is inflammatory.
Follidrone doesnt effect testosterone levels at all.Does follidrone 2.0 mess with your testostrone levels???? Letrone a good diet supplement? Or should I look for more of a thermo too stack with fd2 if I wanna lose some lbs????
He asked between Follidrone and X Gels specifically. But this post was fine because he's your rep and it's for your product? I have nothing against you or your products, but it makes zero sense for Volvo to get called out for posting that.Please dont post ads for competing products in FD2 threads. Poor form bro.
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