1Andro/4Andro/19dhea Epi?!?!?!?!

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Hey guys, so I'm exactly 37 days (5 weeks and 2 days) into a 1Andro cycle.

I added 4Andro after about 2 weeks and the 19dhea after 4 weeks (was just gonna run it for the last 4 weeks)

1andro 330mg
4andro 330mg
19dhea 120mg
All doses are spaced out throughout the day.

Also running standard Ar1micare Pro at 8 caps a day. 4 in AM/PM

Train minimum 5 days a week with some cardio on weekends. Occasionally I have to skip a day because of school

Hitting around 250-300g of protein a day
High carb and low carb days based on training days (pre back day, carbs)

I'm currently;
6ft , 220lbs at about 17-18% bf

Currently deciding if I should add in EpiAndro. The only thing I've noticed is a bit of water weight and lethargy. 4andro isn't cutting it for the lethargy.

Slight strength gains, but not much and could just be normal improvements. Endurance is definitely not up
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Save the epi andro for later. More doesn't mean merrier all the time. Remember it's not a sprint it's a marathon! Lower the suppression the more gains you keep
 

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Save the epi andro for later. More doesn't mean merrier all the time. Remember it's not a sprint it's a marathon! Lower the suppression the more gains you keep
I haven't seen any results in terms of physique changes at all and only like 2 of my lifts have gone up. At 5 weeks of 1andro I was thinking I'd get a bit more
 
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Some people act differently to different PEDs! I would honestly try some potent sarms like LGD or Rad 140! Throwing epi andro this late in the game won't do much at all. Even if you started from day 1 the compound is really only known for giving decent vascularity, hardness in the muscle, and in the pipe. Just run the rest of the cycle out and try a strong sarm next or if you can find some old Prohormones
 
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^^^ I think that would be a good plan as well to just finish out your cycle and pick up something alittle stronger afterwards.
 
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The 19 screws me up like this . Once I dropped it I was fine . Save the epi andro for another time . Keep doses moderate until cycle ends . You may find that lowering the 4ad dose would help . Some suggest raising the 1ad . If I were you I would finish the cycle out :) good job thus far !
 

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Some people act differently to different PEDs! I would honestly try some potent sarms like LGD or Rad 140! Throwing epi andro this late in the game won't do much at all. Even if you started from day 1 the compound is really only known for giving decent vascularity, hardness in the muscle, and in the pipe. Just run the rest of the cycle out and try a strong sarm next or if you can find some old Prohormones
Can you run rad140 right after or during pct?
 

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Thanks for all the responses! I will take the advice and finish the cycle and maybe try a SARM with my next stack!
 

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Would it be bad to PCT now so I can run my next cycle sooner? I mean after the pct and time off but still in the course of the year sooner
I ask because I have final exams next week
 
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Sarms are suppressive but not nearly as much as AAS. I would finish the PH cycle now, do a full pct, and then wait around 2-3 weeks after to start a sarm cycle. Rad and LGD are a little suppressive so just have a serm on hand as well to bounce back real quick.
 

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Sarms are suppressive but not nearly as much as AAS. I would finish the PH cycle now, do a full pct, and then wait around 2-3 weeks after to start a sarm cycle. Rad and LGD are a little suppressive so just have a serm on hand as well to bounce back real quick.
Would it be too early to run the SARM with another stack or wait a couple weeks then add it in? I have some more 1andro and epiandro
 
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Would it be too early to run the SARM with another stack or wait a couple weeks then add it in? I have some more 1andro and epiandro
I would just personally run the sarms standalone because I mean they are potent or even stack just sarms! I honestly think LGD and RAD 140 would be a danm near perfect combo.
 

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I would just personally run the sarms standalone because I mean they are potent or even stack just sarms! I honestly think LGD and RAD 140 would be a danm near perfect combo.
I was thinking rad140 and epi/1 since I already have them and a lot of them
 

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