Planning my next cycle
- 10-10-2018, 01:11 PM
Planning my next cycle
40 years old, 6', 220lbs about 15-18%. Will keep cutting into December when I plan on starting cycle 2.
I recently cut short a poorly planned lgd-mk677 cycle where I ran no base and bottomed out around 8 weeks. I'm just finishing up pct and starting to plan my next cycle, but my first injectable.
I really liked the lgd-mk, so planning on doing that again while adding suss 300 as a base this time. (Reason being, I know a guy locally where I can get it) My questions are: 1) Should I do the full 300 being that this is my first time pinning, or start lower? 2) I've been reading up on adding low dosages of clomid during cycle to mitigate suppression and make pct easier. Anyone have any thoughts or experience here? 3) My joints (mostly shoulders, hips a little bit) started killing me around week 7-8 last time and I want to avoid that. Is the suss enough or do I need anything else?
Any answers or advice are appreciated. Let me know if more info is needed.
- 10-10-2018, 08:36 PM
Pin it 3x a week but up to you, personally, if youíre going to run a cycle over 10 weeks at our age, you may as well get the gains from it. Iíd go 550ish or so, and skip the lgd or run it back end.. you could very well need something for water retention for test and lgd might just complicate that.. MK you can run whenever however since itís not a steroid.
In for more answers but enjoy the run regardless. Iíll never get off test. Ever.
10-10-2018, 10:52 PM
Planning my next cycle
Yeah Iíd rather test e or something else but this is convenient and available.
550 for my first test run? From what Iíve read that seems high but maybe I am mistaken. Iíd like to leave some room to increase over time, if thatís sound logic. My friend pins only once a week but Iím not confident that heís all that knowledgeable. Iím all for the last amount of injections possible, but more concerned with doing it right.
As far as water retention, clomid, nolva, something else?
10-11-2018, 12:21 AM
I agree with matthersby. Iíd just run the test at 400-600mg to at least benefit from the results from it as well, as opposed to using it solely as a base. Personally, I think cyp or enan would be better due to pinning 2x a week and more stable levels, but sust would work as well. You could definitely run the lgd again if you want, but you could also give something else a try like a milder oral.
10-11-2018, 10:53 AM
Just for fun, i jumped off Dbol and went just high test for 3 weeks. I forgot how well test treats me. I moved back up quickly in weight by the second week, pushed 750 and was loving it. Iím so used to dropping test lower with all the 19nors I run. Definitely going to think about an SD / high test / Winnie finisher later 2018. I think itíll be great.
As far as Iím concerned, if youíre not running other drugs 400-600 is perfectly fine for someone newer to pinning aas. Just have your AI and Serm at the ready and youíll love it.
10-11-2018, 12:06 PM
10-11-2018, 01:32 PM
10-11-2018, 01:35 PM
1 1/2 ccs per week would put you at 450 and should be plenty to grow on.
10-11-2018, 02:05 PM
2nd was out of this world, just prop,trest Ace and 10mg SD. Iím telling you that was the gnarliest transformation Iíve ever seen.
I agree wholeheartedly you should run sust 12+ weeks but doing so in my late 30s put me on TRT pretty quick.
10-11-2018, 03:49 PM
Having trouble multi quoting on stupid iPad...
Running a higher dose instead of just using it as a base makes more sense, but Matthersby's last post about TRT due to my age worries me. I’m not ready to be dependant on anything and lose freedom of choice just yet.
I crashed hard af from just lgd so I’m worried that makes me a likely candidate. Granted, it was a poop cycle due to no base, but I’m coming up on my fourth week of pct and I’m still not back to 100% after only taking 10mg ed of lgd!
Maybe just add dermacrine as a base, run a low dose AI throughout the cycle and up the lgd to 15-17mg, or am I being a puss? I responded pretty well to the first run and added around 6lbs that I haven’t lost yet.
10-11-2018, 03:58 PM
10-11-2018, 05:39 PM
Personally I think you'll feel better on it as well.
10-11-2018, 08:43 PM
10-11-2018, 11:52 PM
10-12-2018, 12:47 AM
Real LGD should not cause complete shutdown, but it will definitely feel ****ty being suppressed while on it, worse than many AAS even. LGD can't perform all of the androgenic function of test the way other AAS can. I have not seen any numbers to suggest real LGD causes horrible shutdown.
I would use 20mg LGD a day, and either the sustanon as you planned or just 200-300mg DHEA a day if you're not wanting to pin just yet. The DHEA will help keep more testosterone around once you're producing less. The less test you already have, the more androgenic DHEA will be. In my experience works very well with oral steroids and SARMS alike.
Do as I say, not as I do.
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