Youbet33's lift off from OL LAX

You squat in front of a mirror YouBet? Or better yet, can you video form?

Madcow is decent for its purpose, but I think accessory work innevitably suffers on it (frequency/weekly volume low).
 
YouBet33 said:
Three labrum tears for me , two in one shoulder and one in the other
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Same but i also have a rotater cuff tear in the 1 with 2 but on the other one i separated my ac joint and broke my collar bone. Fun stuff but hey i played in every game. Even the week after braking my collar bone, separating my Ac joint and tearing my labrum. I couldn't feel it though because they gave me an injection that numbed the hole area and then they gave me a tramadol. It was one of the best games ive ever played.
 
rtmilburn said:
Same but i also have a rotater cuff tear in the 1 with 2 but on the other one i separated my ac joint and broke my collar bone. Fun stuff but hey i played in every game. Even the week after braking my collar bone, separating my Ac joint and tearing my labrum. I couldn't feel it though because they gave me an injection that numbed the hole area and then they gave me a tramadol. It was one of the best games ive ever played.
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Miss it everyday
 
YouBet33 said:
Miss it everyday
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Ya i just finished my senior season in high school. It was the 3rd time i have ever cried. I want to go on but i have to many injuries. Every school i have talked to wants me to play and makes me an offer but they require a basic physical done by them and as soon as they look my shoulders they take away all offers.
 
Took my first dose, off to work for 6 hours then hitting a workout around 8pm
 
I did decide to give the mi40 program a shot, it will begin tonight and I will stick to it for 3 months
 
Welllll I started the mi40 program today and holy **** it really puts you into perspective not to mention a sick fricken pump the whole workout.
All reps are 4x8 sets with a 4010 tempo
Will just post my last set numbers that include a NOS drop set
Straight arm pulldown: 40 (30,20,10)
Reverse pulldown: 100 (80,60,40)
BB row: 95 (75,55,45)
DB row: 50 (35,25,20)
Hypers: bw for all 4 sets
Leg curl: 100 (80,60,40)
RDL: 135 (115,95,75)

Really tried to squeeze after every rep, control and squeeze. Too early to notice anything from the SU but did have a sick pump. Can anyone chime in if they have any experience with the original str3ngth, can you feel it work? Kick in time? Or is it just one of those supplements that work over a long period of time
 
YouBet33 said:
Welllll I started the mi40 program today and holy **** it really puts you into perspective not to mention a sick fricken pump the whole workout.
All reps are 4x8 sets with a 4010 tempo
Will just post my last set numbers that include a NOS drop set
Straight arm pulldown: 40 (30,20,10)
Reverse pulldown: 100 (80,60,40)
BB row: 95 (75,55,45)
DB row: 50 (35,25,20)
Hypers: bw for all 4 sets
Leg curl: 100 (80,60,40)
RDL: 135 (115,95,75)

Really tried to squeeze after every rep, control and squeeze. Too early to notice anything from the SU but did have a sick pump. Can anyone chime in if they have any experience with the original str3ngth, can you feel it work? Kick in time? Or is it just one of those supplements that work over a long period of time
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What is a reverse pulldown? Its sounds awesome but im just not really sure what it is
 
YouBet33 said:
Too early to notice anything from the SU but did have a sick pump. Can anyone chime in if they have any experience with the original str3ngth, can you feel it work? Kick in time? Or is it just one of those supplements that work over a long period of time
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For what it's worth; Haven't tried Str3ngth, but I have a lot of experience with BlackstoneLabs Angogenin (their Lax product). Typically the first thing I noticed was increased low back pumps at about a week and a half in. Shortly after that I would really start to blow up when I lifted...like enough that it's noticeable to those around me.

Also...what are "Hypers"? Thanks!
 
Irons_Mule said:
For what it's worth; Haven't tried Str3ngth, but I have a lot of experience with BlackstoneLabs Angogenin (their Lax product). Typically the first thing I noticed was increased low back pumps at about a week and a half in. Shortly after that I would really start to blow up when I lifted...like enough that it's noticeable to those around me.

Also...what are "Hypers"? Thanks!
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Thanks for the input! Hyper extensions is what hypers are.
 
pfresh said:
Im curious to see how the mi40x program treats you. How does the diet look on that program? Macros/carb timing
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Eating roughly 3000-35000 cals, timely is rough for me as I have two jobs during the day so I try to eat whenever I have time, most important meals for me are preworkout 2-3 hours before and post workout meal directly after
 
Im really interested in the healing aspects of lax. So if you notice any improvements in your shoulders and knees please let us know.

As i might use dermastr3ngth unleashed, when it comes out and i have enough money, as apart of a healing stack to try to avoid the hefty expense of surgery. I want to stack it sns joint-xt, bcp-157, cissus, and tb-500(might not as its expensive and takes a long time to work, but i still might as it would still be cheaper then surgery.) .
 
YouBet33 said:
Eating roughly 3000-35000 cals, timely is rough for me as I have two jobs during the day so I try to eat whenever I have time, most important meals for me are preworkout 2-3 hours before and post workout meal directly after
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How much protein? More curious then anything. As i have had some of my better results eating relatively low protein(150-200ish). I also have had great success with higher protein(300-350ish).
 
rtmilburn said:
Im really interested in the healing aspects of lax. So if you notice any improvements in your shoulders and knees please let us know.

As i might use dermastr3ngth unleashed, when it comes out and i have enough money, as apart of a healing stack to try to avoid the hefty expense of surgery. I want to stack it sns joint-xt, bcp-157, cissus, and tb-500(might not as its expensive and takes a long time to work, but i still might as it would still be cheaper then surgery.) .
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Yes I'm really hoping I see some healing aspects, surgery is never fun!
 
YouBet33 said:
Yes I'm really hoping I see some healing aspects, surgery is never fun!
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Ya ive only had 1 surgery (adolescences duel hernia) and it sure wasn't fun. So ya if i can heal them even a little bit, it would be awesome.

Have you had any surgeries? If so what was it and did long did it take be recover?
 
rtmilburn said:
Ya ive only had 1 surgery (adolescences duel hernia) and it sure wasn't fun. So ya if i can heal them even a little bit, it would be awesome.

Have you had any surgeries? If so what was it and did long did it take be recover?
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Right shoulder labrum surgery, have a 4-5 inch scar front of my shoulder, then left shoulder twice. Both times labrum tore. Recovery was roughly the same for all at about 4 months
 
YouBet33 said:
Right shoulder labrum surgery, have a 4-5 inch scar front of my shoulder, then left shoulder twice. Both times labrum tore. Recovery was roughly the same for all at about 4 months
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And that is four months to get back to football shape
 
Hardest thing for me is going to be dropping my weight on all lifts, I need to understand I'm not lifting for strength as much as I am lifting for size. Got a great chest workout in today. Pretty fricken dead after each drop set, feel weird struggling with 10-15lbs on my flyes.

4x8 +nos set

Bench: 135,185,185,185 ( 145,95,85)
Incline DB bench: 40,40,50,50 (40,30,25)
Fly press: 20,25,30,35 (25,15,10)
3x8
Pec fly 100,100,100 (80,60,40)
Superset w/ push-ups 3xfailure 20,17,14
Machine preacher curl 4x8: 40,50,60,60 ( 40,30,20)
DB curl 3x8: 20,20,25 (20,15,10)
Cable curl 3x8: 40,60,80 (60,40,20)

Weights might seem like much but I'm controlling the **** out of it. My hamstrings kill from my last workout, gonna stay with it and keep pushing myself.
 
Interesting leg day! I had to replace hack squats with front squats due to my gym not having it at my gym. Dosing one pills twice a day. Noticing an increase in DOMS and def an increase in hunger.

Quads
Leg extension 4x8+nos
80,100,120,140 (120,100,80)
Front squats 4x8+nos
135,185,205,225 (185,155,135)
Leg press 4x20 count lbs on bar only
270,360,450,540
DB Lunges 4x20
30s,35s,35s,35s
Calf raise 4x20
Leg press calf raise 4x8+nos
90,180,270,270 (180,135,100)

By the time I got to lunges my legs were fried! I was cramping after 8 reps on each leg. Starting to like this program but man I am sore more and more. Can't wait for these legs to kick in, the drop set on front squat was brutal:)
 
Today was back and hamstrings....feeling great in the gym! Starting to feel fuller and a better pump. Been on SU about a week now.
Pulldown with 2 second pause 6x8
80,90,100,110,120 (100,80,60)
Cable row 4x8 +nos
80,100,110,130 (120,110,100)
2 arm DB row 4x8+nos
45,45,50,50 (40,35,30)
Deadlift 3x8+nos controlled
185,235,255 (205,185,135)
Leg press 4x8+nos high and wide
180,270,360,360 (270x8,180x8,90x20)
Leg curl 4x8+nos
110,110,110,110 (90,70,50)

Really feeling great, need to increase my water intake as I'm starting to cramp once in awhile
 
After being on SU for a little over a week there is three things I'm noticing.
1. Muscles fullness: Thing seem be be popping more in the mirror, better definition at 260 pounds.
2. DOMS, muscle soreness has been crazy since I started this log. It seems muscle soreness is staying around 3-4 days after the workout.
3. Hunger: food just never seems enough, constantly hungry.
 
Two workouts to catch up on, been a busy week. Put a little over 70 hours over the last week.

Chest and biceps
Incline bench 4x8+ w/ intention
115,135,155,155 (135,115,95)
Incline machine press 4x8+nos
100,115,115,155 (85,70,55)
flat DB press 4x8+nos
40,50,55,60 (45,40,30)
Cable fly 4xfailure
12,12,11,11
Two arm cable curl 4x+nos
10,20,25,25 (15,10,5)
Bb curl 4+nos
55,65,75,75 (65,55,45)
Incline DB curl 4x8
15,20,25,25

Back and hamstrings
Underhand cable row 4x8+nos
75,105,120,120 (90,75,60)
DB row 4x15
45,50,50,50 no rest between sets
Overhand bb row 4x8
95,115,115,135
Cable pulldown 4x8+nos
100,120,140,140 (120,100,80)
Straight arm pushdown 4x8+nos
40, 47.5, 47.5, 55 (40,32.5,25)
Rdl 4x8+nos
135,145,165,185 (145,115,95)
Seated leg curl 4x15
70,90,110,110
Lying leg curl 4x8+nos
70,90,90,110 (90,70,50)

Overall feeling great! I'm starting to feel fuller but DOMS are still there. Suppose to be cutting weight but I feel constantly hungry! Liking this stuff, hopefully it continues
 
YouBet33 said:
Two workouts to catch up on, been a busy week. Put a little over 70 hours over the last week.

Chest and biceps
Incline bench 4x8+ w/ intention
115,135,155,155 (135,115,95)
Incline machine press 4x8+nos
100,115,115,155 (85,70,55)
flat DB press 4x8+nos
40,50,55,60 (45,40,30)
Cable fly 4xfailure
12,12,11,11
Two arm cable curl 4x+nos
10,20,25,25 (15,10,5)
Bb curl 4+nos
55,65,75,75 (65,55,45)
Incline DB curl 4x8
15,20,25,25

Back and hamstrings
Underhand cable row 4x8+nos
75,105,120,120 (90,75,60)
DB row 4x15
45,50,50,50 no rest between sets
Overhand bb row 4x8
95,115,115,135
Cable pulldown 4x8+nos
100,120,140,140 (120,100,80)
Straight arm pushdown 4x8+nos
40, 47.5, 47.5, 55 (40,32.5,25)
Rdl 4x8+nos
135,145,165,185 (145,115,95)
Seated leg curl 4x15
70,90,110,110
Lying leg curl 4x8+nos
70,90,90,110 (90,70,50)

Overall feeling great! I'm starting to feel fuller but DOMS are still there. Suppose to be cutting weight but I feel constantly hungry! Liking this stuff, hopefully it continues
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Im finding EPIC UNLEASHED is making me super hungry too
 
Gotta feed the beast when on EU + SU.
 
Might be weird but I know this products not hormonal but I am seeing an increase in acne
 
YouBet33 said:
Might be weird but I know this products not hormonal but I am seeing an increase in acne
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Interesting! When lax product first come out they were portrayed as a test booster. Then latter that was found to be false. Although maybe with increase absorption it is? Idk but i dont think that is the case. Maybe it is a side effect of one of the pathways lax uses? Or just a coincidence?
 
rtmilburn said:
Interesting! When lax product first come out they were portrayed as a test booster. Then latter that was found to be false. Although maybe with increase absorption it is? Idk but i dont think that is the case. Maybe it is a side effect of one of the pathways lax uses? Or just a coincidence?
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It is weird and its places I usually don't have it, on legs and arms
 
Been working like crazy the last couple nights...leave at 6:45 am and get home at 9:45, here are my last two workouts. One from Thursday and shoulder workout from tonight. Feeling great, and seeing muscles pop especially in my shoulders tonight.
Incline DB press 4x8+nos
60,65,70,75 (60,50,45)
Incline DB fly 4x8*nos
20,25,35,35 (25,20,15)
DB bench 4x8+nos
70,80,85,85 (60,50,45)
Cable crossover 4x8+nos
Barbell curl 4x8+nos
Seated DB curl 4x8+nos

Tonight shoulder workout
Rear delt DB 4x8+nos
20,20,25,25 (20,15,10)
Cable rear delt fly 4x15
20,20,30,30
DB side lateral raise 4x8+
20,25,30,35 (25,20,15)
DB shoulder press 4x20
40,45,50,55

Quick in and out tonight, it gave me a break from triceps but I did a few sets of single overhead DB extension and straight bar cable push down for ****s and gigs
 
YouBet33 said:
Been working like crazy the last couple nights...leave at 6:45 am and get home at 9:45, here are my last two workouts. One from Thursday and shoulder workout from tonight. Feeling great, and seeing muscles pop especially in my shoulders tonight.
Incline DB press 4x8+nos
60,65,70,75 (60,50,45)
Incline DB fly 4x8*nos
20,25,35,35 (25,20,15)
DB bench 4x8+nos
70,80,85,85 (60,50,45)
Cable crossover 4x8+nos
Barbell curl 4x8+nos
Seated DB curl 4x8+nos

Tonight shoulder workout
Rear delt DB 4x8+nos
20,20,25,25 (20,15,10)
Cable rear delt fly 4x15
20,20,30,30
DB side lateral raise 4x8+
20,25,30,35 (25,20,15)
DB shoulder press 4x20
40,45,50,55

Quick in and out tonight, it gave me a break from triceps but I did a few sets of single overhead DB extension and straight bar cable push down for ****s and gigs
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I here that man. I usually leave for work at 5 :30 am and get home around 8:30 pm. Like that 5 days a week. Sometimes i get home even later if i have an errand to run after the gym.
 
YouBet33 said:
It is weird and its places I usually don't have it, on legs and arms
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Prob just a coincidence. Or maybe from sweating more?

I use DermaStr3ngth & soon DS UL, and no acne issues yet.
 
Also haven't had a decent bowel movement since I started SU, maybe I'm trying to get rid of something or maybe it's the strength unleashed. Either way a little over 2 weeks and liking it so far
 
YouBet33 said:
Also haven't had a decent bowel movement since I started SU, maybe I'm trying to get rid of something or maybe it's the strength unleashed. Either way a little over 2 weeks and liking it so far
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Its been over 2 weeks since your last proper poo and you are liking it?!?
 
YouBet33 said:
Haha I don't like that part! But the muscle fullness and strength I'm seeing in the gym I do like.
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Might be time to up the fiber. Your hydration good?
 
I eat chia seeds everyday. Important to make sure you're getting enough fibre in your diet . Something like 90 percent of Americans don't get enough fibre in their diet . If you don't track fibre,chances are you probably don't get enough.
 
kboxer7 said:
Might be time to up the fiber. Your hydration good?
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Work can be a hard time for me to get enough water in. I try to get in as much as I can. I will up the water even more and up the fiber intake as well. I love some chia as well. Add it to some Greek yogurt with a lil honey
 
YouBet33 said:
Work can be a hard time for me to get enough water in. I try to get in as much as I can. I will up the water even more and up the fiber intake as well. I love some chia as well. Add it to some Greek yogurt with a lil honey
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My wife carries around a mammoth mug (giant water jug ) with her all day to make sure she drinks her daily water intake. She has to do this otherwise she won't drink enough water.
 
pfresh said:
My wife carries around a mammoth mug (giant water jug ) with her all day to make sure she drinks her daily water intake. She has to do this otherwise she won't drink enough water.
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Haha I work with behavioral youth and the less objects they have to throw at me the better
 
YouBet33 said:
Haha I work with behavioral youth and the less objects they have to throw at me the better
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There is always the camelback lol.

I used to sport the camelback way back when I did construction while in college.
 
Been sick, my school has a bug going around. So I am home today . Log will continue as soon as I'm back, might hit the treadmill just to get a sweat going tonight.
 
Alright was feeing much better today so I combined two workouts to hopefully get back on schedule only to feel my lower back /hip pop! I will continue to push through and really focus on stretching and taking care of that area, hard to determine what it is. Might be seeing my sport chiropractor early next week. Anyway the workout was great and it was nice to get back into the weigh room after three days off.

Day 16 shoulders and triceps
1 arm cable lateral raise 4x10
10,20,20,20
DB side lateral 4x20
15,15,20,20
DB front raise 4x10
20,25,25,30
Cable rear delt 4x15
10,10,15,20
Smith machine shoulder press 4x10
50lbs,50,70,70
One arm cable pushback 4x10
20,20,30,30
Overhead DB extension 4x20
45,50,55,60
Skull crusher 4x8+nos

Back and hamstrings
Underhand seated row 4x10 superset
60,80,100,120
Reverse grip pulldown 4x10
60,80,100,120
BB bent row 4x10
95x4x10
Close grip cable row 4x20
50,70,90,110
Leg curl 4x10
90,110,110,110
Rdl 4x20
95x4x20
Leg curl 4x8+nos
110,130,150,165
 
Back felt wonderful tonight, I went to my sports chiro and we determined that ass, hamstrings and hip flexers were super tight causing pain in my lower back. I got some work done and hit the gym for a leg day. Felt good, was suppose to front squat but decided to give my back a few more days of rest before that happens. As far as strength unleashed goes I am still feeling fullness and hungry as my two pain effects.

Quads and calves
Leg extensions 4x8 +nos
130,150,150,170 (130,110,90)
Leg press 4x8+nos
10 plates,12,12,12 (8,6,4)
Bulgarian split squat 4x10 each leg
25,45,
Single leg leg press 4x8+nos
90,180,180,180
Calf raise leg press 4x20
180x4x20
Standing calf raise 4x20
Bwx4x20
 
YouBet33 can you please post a final review here:
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Yes sorry, just got home yesterday from vacation in Colorado, where I got engaged. Final review will be up tomorrow night :)
 
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