You Cant Flex Fat!!! Recomp log.... Dbol/TEST E/Winny and other stuff...

msrider said:
I know its late, but subd! you realy know ur **** bro, great cycle log
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Thanks man. Got a few weeks left and then the hard part.... pct lol. Good to have you
 
DangerDave said:
Thanks man. Got a few weeks left and then the hard part.... pct lol. Good to have you
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Why is the pct part of the cycle the hard part? I here there are mood swings with pct, is it the actual pct or is it ur body changing from so much test to getting it to normal. Thanks! I'm running a similar cycle but just 10 weeks, well 12 if ya count the 6 with winny is the reason I ask
 
msrider said:
Why is the pct part of the cycle the hard part? I here there are mood swings with pct, is it the actual pct or is it ur body changing from so much test to getting it to normal. Thanks! I'm running a similar cycle but just 10 weeks, well 12 if ya count the 6 with winny is the reason I ask
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PCT is a battle field...you go from being purely anabolic to a state of extreme catabolism in which you must bring to a state of anabolism. During pct your test levels will be extremely low, cortisol will be running high, so lethargy, less energy is very common. The point of pct is to. Ring our bodies back to normal values and homeostasis a quick ad possible. Not to mention serms could make some emotional.

Your pct should be stricter and stronger than your cycle or else all your gains will diminish quickly
 
technique88 said:
PCT is a battle field...you go from being purely anabolic to a state of extreme catabolism in which you must bring to a state of anabolism. During pct your test levels will be extremely low, cortisol will be running high, so lethargy, less energy is very common. The point of pct is to. Ring our bodies back to normal values and homeostasis a quick ad possible. Not to mention serms could make some emotional.

Your pct should be stricter and stronger than your cycle or else all your gains will diminish quickly
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Thanks man, makes a lot of sense. So u basicaly go from being an ass kicker to getting ur ass kicked.
 
msrider said:
Thanks man, makes a lot of sense. So u basicaly go from being an ass kicker to getting ur ass kicked.
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You could say that lol mastering pct is important so you avoid getting your a$$ kicked. Experienced users are great with pct and do very well.
 
Yeah pct is the part that decides what you keep. For me the hard part is going from being so Alpha for 16 weeks and being able to lift 2 a days or lifting 5+ days straight to doing 3 day splits and lifting lighter.

Because test is low and cortisol is high in pct you don't want to break your muscles down in the gym. If you do then your body doesn't have the right hormones to repair them and catabolism is increased. You have to lift on that fine line of exercising the muscles but not breaking them down. You need to work em to push nutrients and keep them fed though.

There is so much that goes into pct. I have had great ones and also failed miserably and lost a lot of gains. Its different person to person but some stuff is universal. Use a SERM, test booster, Estrogen control and maybe something to help cortisol levels. A solid lifting plan and diet is key too. Can't be the same workout as you did on cycle.
 
DangerDave said:
Yeah pct is the part that decides what you keep. For me the hard part is going from being so Alpha for 16 weeks and being able to lift 2 a days or lifting 5+ days straight to doing 3 day splits and lifting lighter.

Because test is low and cortisol is high in pct you don't want to break your muscles down in the gym. If you do then your body doesn't have the right hormones to repair them and catabolism is increased. You have to lift on that fine line of exercising the muscles but not breaking them down. You need to work em to push nutrients and keep them fed though.

There is so much that goes into pct. I have had great ones and also failed miserably and lost a lot of gains. Its different person to person but some stuff is universal. Use a SERM, test booster, Estrogen control and maybe something to help cortisol levels. A solid lifting plan and diet is key too. Can't be the same workout as you did on cycle.
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Thanks bro for all the good info! I have clomid, and arimidex. Not sure of a good test booster, and also I was gunna start taking arimidex week 4 of my cycle. But not showing any signs of gyno yet. Do I need to wait till I get signs of it or should I take precausiously. Thanks for ur help bro! And congrats on making the finals bro I'm sure u will win
 
msrider said:
Thanks bro for all the good info! I have clomid, and arimidex. Not sure of a good test booster, and also I was gunna start taking arimidex week 4 of my cycle. But not showing any signs of gyno yet. Do I need to wait till I get signs of it or should I take precausiously. Thanks for ur help bro! And congrats on making the finals bro I'm sure u will win
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You could take it. There are more benefits than just stopping gyno when you take arimidex. You need to find your sweet spot for the dosage. It can decrease estrogen, stimulate LH and FSH and slightly elevate IGF-1 levels. Now side effects of high estrogen go beyond gyno. They can include water retention, loss of libido (so can to low of estrogen), gyno, progesterone sides (more seen with compounds like deca or Tren) and emotional mood swings.

I personally HATE water retention and bloat. I cant stand it and it gives a false sense of gains. Me being the shallow prick I am.. I get upset when I loss alot of weight if I am not cutting and its depressing. So i dont like water retention because it goes away fast. Now with that said... some water retention and bloat is ok. If you dry yourself out too much while trying to gain or recomp you will dry your joints and risk having serious joint pain. It all comes back to finding your sweet spot. Here is how I found mine...

1. dose Adex at 1mg ED for 7 days or until you feel it in your joints (they will feel dry).
2. drop the dose to .5mg EOD for 7 days. If your joint are fine after a few days that is your sweet spot. If not read on
3. If after step 2 you still feel like your joints are dry drop to .25mg EOD and see how your joints feel after a few days.

Remember you cant use arimidex and nolva at the same time. Use exemestane in PCT because it is a suicidal Aromatase Inhibitor and you cant get estrogen rebound from it.
 
DangerDave said:
You could take it. There are more benefits than just stopping gyno when you take arimidex. You need to find your sweet spot for the dosage. It can decrease estrogen, stimulate LH and FSH and slightly elevate IGF-1 levels. Now side effects of high estrogen go beyond gyno. They can include water retention, loss of libido (so can to low of estrogen), gyno, progesterone sides (more seen with compounds like deca or Tren) and emotional mood swings.

I personally HATE water retention and bloat. I cant stand it and it gives a false sense of gains. Me being the shallow prick I am.. I get upset when I loss alot of weight if I am not cutting and its depressing. So i dont like water retention because it goes away fast. Now with that said... some water retention and bloat is ok. If you dry yourself out too much while trying to gain or recomp you will dry your joints and risk having serious joint pain. It all comes back to finding your sweet spot. Here is how I found mine...

1. dose Adex at 1mg ED for 7 days or until you feel it in your joints (they will feel dry).
2. drop the dose to .5mg EOD for 7 days. If your joint are fine after a few days that is your sweet spot. If not read on
3. If after step 2 you still feel like your joints are dry drop to .25mg EOD and see how your joints feel after a few days.

Remember you cant use arimidex and nolva at the same time. Use exemestane in PCT because it is a suicidal Aromatase Inhibitor and you cant get estrogen rebound from it.
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Thanks Dave, I have noticed I'm very dry rite now and my joints are killing me. I can get the exemestane too so I need to run it in pct with my clomid. How would I run that I think I can get 25 mg and 12.5 mg. Hope u don't mind me asking so many ?s lol also I've wondered why ppl talk down on running decca in ur first few cycles cause I wanted to run it in my 2nd. With that said I still havnt seen what the test is gunna do this time so I might b happy with running this cycle again but more like u with higher doses of test e and longer period. But not sure why decca so bad, I've seen ppl make awesome gains from it and it lubes the joints just thought I would throw that out there cause u have more than enough knowledge lol thanks for ur time bro
 
msrider said:
Thanks Dave, I have noticed I'm very dry rite now and my joints are killing me. I can get the exemestane too so I need to run it in pct with my clomid. How would I run that I think I can get 25 mg and 12.5 mg. Hope u don't mind me asking so many ?s lol also I've wondered why ppl talk down on running decca in ur first few cycles cause I wanted to run it in my 2nd. With that said I still havnt seen what the test is gunna do this time so I might b happy with running this cycle again but more like u with higher doses of test e and longer period. But not sure why decca so bad, I've seen ppl make awesome gains from it and it lubes the joints just thought I would throw that out there cause u have more than enough knowledge lol thanks for ur time bro
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I like running exemestane at 12.5mg ED and if I get too dry or sore joints I take a day or 2 off then start it back at 12.5mg again. You dont have to worry about estrogen rebound so you can just quit taking it and not have problems. Plus it is superior to arimidex in restarting LH and FSH function in my opinion (and in actual medical studies).

Deca is frowned upon in first cycles because of sides. the sides arent bad but lets say for a first cycle you run test and deca at a resonable dose. You get sides of gyno. How do you know what from? Do you want to take an AI and a dopamine antagonist at the same time? If that stops it how do you know what compound caused it? If you dont know what compound caused it then in future cycles you might run into it again. I know after this cycle that my sweet spot for Test E is around 750mg, Dbol at 40mg and Winny at 40mg. I know exactly how my body reacts to both and what sides to expect both good and bad. Now I can start bringing in more compounds into future cycles. If new sides I have not experienced pop up I can attribute it to the new compounds and treat them from that angle instead of a shotgun blast approach. Its frowned upon because of inexperience of the user with the compounds not because of the actual compounds. Test sides are usually from aromatization and deca sides are progesterone related. Both manifest almost the same and can trick you but are treated differently. Armidex will control estrogen but will not stop lactation from your nipples. while Caber (a dopamine antagonist) will stop the progestrone sides (lactation) but not aromatization.

Now that I know what to expect from the compounds I ran my next cycle I will try Test, Tren and maybe Masterone with a anadrol kicker to see how all of the compounds treat me. Over the next 2 years I will try just about everything by running 8-12 week cycles and then I will start building a 5-8 year plan of how I will run compounds to start competing in fitness and bodybuilding. All of it is long term goals but I am doing my due dilegence in learning now instead of failing in a contest prep because I got impatient.

Damn that is some long a$$ focking typing lol. If you got more questions hit me up brother I dont mind at all. Hope it helps
 
DangerDave said:
I like running exemestane at 12.5mg ED and if I get too dry or sore joints I take a day or 2 off then start it back at 12.5mg again. You dont have to worry about estrogen rebound so you can just quit taking it and not have problems. Plus it is superior to arimidex in restarting LH and FSH function in my opinion (and in actual medical studies).

Deca is frowned upon in first cycles because of sides. the sides arent bad but lets say for a first cycle you run test and deca at a resonable dose. You get sides of gyno. How do you know what from? Do you want to take an AI and a dopamine antagonist at the same time? If that stops it how do you know what compound caused it? If you dont know what compound caused it then in future cycles you might run into it again. I know after this cycle that my sweet spot for Test E is around 750mg, Dbol at 40mg and Winny at 40mg. I know exactly how my body reacts to both and what sides to expect both good and bad. Now I can start bringing in more compounds into future cycles. If new sides I have not experienced pop up I can attribute it to the new compounds and treat them from that angle instead of a shotgun blast approach. Its frowned upon because of inexperience of the user with the compounds not because of the actual compounds. Test sides are usually from aromatization and deca sides are progesterone related. Both manifest almost the same and can trick you but are treated differently. Armidex will control estrogen but will not stop lactation from your nipples. while Caber (a dopamine antagonist) will stop the progestrone sides (lactation) but not aromatization.

Now that I know what to expect from the compounds I ran my next cycle I will try Test, Tren and maybe Masterone with a anadrol kicker to see how all of the compounds treat me. Over the next 2 years I will try just about everything by running 8-12 week cycles and then I will start building a 5-8 year plan of how I will run compounds to start competing in fitness and bodybuilding. All of it is long term goals but I am doing my due dilegence in learning now instead of failing in a contest prep because I got impatient.

Damn that is some long a$$ focking typing lol. If you got more questions hit me up brother I dont mind at all. Hope it helps
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Holy ****! That's a lot of info and u r not kidding a lot of typing lol. I understand now with the decca, cause I always red that the sides wernt that bad but always someone saying not in ur first cycles. Now I know why. Good info bro, and I won't lie a lot of what u tell me I have no clue anything about. Inwhich a lot of ppl would say research more. But that's why I talk to you for help. Is there a site u know of that could kinda help me learn a bit more cause I don't want u too have to rite me a book lol! I know I'm coming to u for info though. Thanks bro
 
msrider said:
Holy ****! That's a lot of info and u r not kidding a lot of typing lol. I understand now with the decca, cause I always red that the sides wernt that bad but always someone saying not in ur first cycles. Now I know why. Good info bro, and I won't lie a lot of what u tell me I have no clue anything about. Inwhich a lot of ppl would say research more. But that's why I talk to you for help. Is there a site u know of that could kinda help me learn a bit more cause I don't want u too have to rite me a book lol! I know I'm coming to u for info though. Thanks bro
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Its no problem for me to answer questions man. I just google stuff and read. I only take stuff for fact online if it has a legit reference that is a medical study. Look up threads I have started under my username on my user page and take a look at the one about Serms and AIs. It has a bunch of studies and info about Adex, Letro, Caber, Estane, Nolva, Clomid and more. Should put you in the right direction. remember google is your friend. Just make sure its a reliable source and not broscience lol
 
DangerDave said:
Its no problem for me to answer questions man. I just google stuff and read. I only take stuff for fact online if it has a legit reference that is a medical study. Look up threads I have started under my username on my user page and take a look at the one about Serms and AIs. It has a bunch of studies and info about Adex, Letro, Caber, Estane, Nolva, Clomid and more. Should put you in the right direction. remember google is your friend. Just make sure its a reliable source and not broscience lol
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Thanks again dave! I will deff b looking at ur threads. Great info man. So I'm running 600 mg test e and I don't get gyno u think I could go for decca next or should I do another cycle of test dbol winny to make sure.
 
See how it goes man. If your cycle and pct go flawless and you make good gains try it out. Research research research and after you think you got it down then start a thread and ask for advice. The great thing about aas is there is no need to rush. The gains will always be waiting. The more you plan and the better you plan the greater the gains are. With Steroids more is usually not better. A good long term program, diet and a good pct is what counts.
 
I'll chime in on the fact that PCT working out too much isn't a good thing. I've been hitting the gym 2 times a week, after taking the first week off and I've noticed that my gains are continuing to remain where they were, still shredding BF and maintaining the same weight. Lethargy hits everyday around 5-6pm though :(

DD knows his stuff and is an excellent resource for those that are needing information. He is my go to guy for info on cycles, pct, and any other problems. Stand up fella
 
xigotmailx said:
I'll chime in on the fact that PCT working out too much isn't a good thing. I've been hitting the gym 2 times a week, after taking the first week off and I've noticed that my gains are continuing to remain where they were, still shredding BF and maintaining the same weight. Lethargy hits everyday around 5-6pm though :(

DD knows his stuff and is an excellent resource for those that are needing information. He is my go to guy for info on cycles, pct, and any other problems. Stand up fella
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Thanks man I appreciate the kind words. Always good to have a friend back you up lol. Keep killing that sh*t in your pct man. You are getting big quick! This time next year you will be my size
 
DangerDave said:
Thanks man I appreciate the kind words. Always good to have a friend back you up lol. Keep killing that sh*t in your pct man. You are getting big quick! This time next year you will be my size
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I can only hope! 3 cycles until next birthday XD
 
Do u know if AHv3 inhibits Shbg?
 
xigotmailx said:
I'll chime in on the fact that PCT working out too much isn't a good thing. I've been hitting the gym 2 times a week, after taking the first week off and I've noticed that my gains are continuing to remain where they were, still shredding BF and maintaining the same weight. Lethargy hits everyday around 5-6pm though :(

DD knows his stuff and is an excellent resource for those that are needing information. He is my go to guy for info on cycles, pct, and any other problems. Stand up fella
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Thanks bro! Awesome ur still having gains. And I've noticed DD always has good info, thanks for backing him. Congrats on ur cycle bro!
 
Thanks man, now I just have to work on adding 30 or so pounds :P I hope for at least 5-10 before I even start my next cycle
 
DangerDave said:
See how it goes man. If your cycle and pct go flawless and you make good gains try it out. Research research research and after you think you got it down then start a thread and ask for advice. The great thing about aas is there is no need to rush. The gains will always be waiting. The more you plan and the better you plan the greater the gains are. With Steroids more is usually not better. A good long term program, diet and a good pct is what counts.
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Thanks bro! Deff planning better and I have better resources now too. That helps! Gunna start getting 2nd cycle gear soon. The test I have now I think its good but damn the pip kills me. Have a hard time just bending my leg for a few days. Also my diet is damn good. Now I cheat here and there. Mostly I'm eating lights out. The whole cycle gets addictive, the nutrition, workout, the aas, the looking in the mirror and flexing a bit lol its all awesome. Except the leg I pin haha
 
Hey bro! What would b more beneficial as far as strength and size. Running test and decca for 12 weeks at 500 test and 400decca or 12 weeks with test at 750 and kick start with dbol and winny to cut. Thanks
 
msrider said:
Hey bro! What would b more beneficial as far as strength and size. Running test and decca for 12 weeks at 500 test and 400decca or 12 weeks with test at 750 and kick start with dbol and winny to cut. Thanks
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Deca needs to be ran a long time, like 14 weeks minimum. It also needs to be discontinued 2 weeks prior to the test because you'll need a good month for it I clear. Why not this:

Week 1-16 test e @ 500mg
Week 1-14 deca @ 400mg
Week 1-4 dbol @ 50mg ED
Week 10-16 winny @ 50mg ED

Test/deca will give you probably give you more quality maintainable strength
 
msrider said:
Hey bro! What would b more beneficial as far as strength and size. Running test and decca for 12 weeks at 500 test and 400decca or 12 weeks with test at 750 and kick start with dbol and winny to cut. Thanks
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88 is right his recommendation is exactly what I would do. Maybe shave a week or 2 off. I have seen deca ran for 10 weeks with great gains as well. Bit you want to run test a few weeks longer to let the deca clear your system. The winny will help with progesterone sides in the end of cycle because its a DHT compound and is considered somewhat anti-estrogenic
 
technique88 said:
Deca needs to be ran a long time, like 14 weeks minimum. It also needs to be discontinued 2 weeks prior to the test because you'll need a good month for it I clear. Why not this:

Week 1-16 test e @ 500mg
Week 1-14 deca @ 400mg
Week 1-4 dbol @ 50mg ED
Week 10-16 winny @ 50mg ED

Test/deca will give you probably give you more quality maintainable strength
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Thanks man! I will do close to this. I will drop 2 weeks off the cycle so I don't have to buy 4 vials of test.

Week 1-14 test e @ 500mg
Week 1-12 decca @ 400mg
Week 1-4 dbol 50 mg
Week 9-14 winny 50mg

Also do I have to run hcg with this cause I'm not sure I can get this. Also

I would run adex .25 mg through weeks 1-16 eod
Run liv 52 throughout entire cycle and through pct
Taurine for back pumps

Clomid 100/100/50/50 2 weeks after last pin
Exemastine 12.5 eod weeks 1-14

Would thaT work. Apreciate the help bro's

I would've taken to a new thread but sometimes it takes a bit to get advice and I want ur guys advice.
 
msrider said:
Thanks man! I will do close to this. I will drop 2 weeks off the cycle so I don't have to buy 4 vials of test.

Week 1-14 test e @ 500mg
Week 1-12 decca @ 400mg
Week 1-4 dbol 50 mg
Week 9-14 winny 50mg

Also do I have to run hcg with this cause I'm not sure I can get this. Also

I would run adex .25 mg through weeks 1-16 eod
Run liv 52 throughout entire cycle and through pct
Taurine for back pumps

Clomid 100/100/50/50 2 weeks after last pin
Exemastine 12.5 eod weeks 1-14

Would thaT work. Apreciate the help bro's

I would've taken to a new thread but sometimes it takes a bit to get advice and I want ur guys advice.
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Don't run Adex and aromasin, that's over kill. You ca just run aromasin through cycle and through pct. get yourself some DAA for test booster for pct and look into tudca for liver support. It's exponentially better than live52 and you can get it cheap on nutraplanet. Tudca will also help with lipid profile.
 
technique88 said:
Don't run Adex and aromasin, that's over kill. You ca just run aromasin through cycle and through pct. get yourself some DAA for test booster for pct and look into tudca for liver support. It's exponentially better than live52 and you can get it cheap on nutraplanet. Tudca will also help with lipid profile.
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Thanks bro! I will just run exemistine. And the daa, that is powder rite. Looks like a winner to me and I will def get the tudca too. Thanks man. Now I'm ready to get prepped for 2nd cycle. Appreciate the help!
 
Dude, i'm sorry to thread jack but I need you to whoop my ass. For real. I look up to you DD but I know that I need you to ****ing Chuck Norris karate kick my face in. I have messed up so bad. I'm drinking, I'm doing mad amounts of drugs, hanging out with bad people. I'm a goddam retard. I lost everything I gained in my cycle, I am just lost period. PLEASE HIT ME



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Yo, not just DD, all of you all kick my ****ing ass. I'm such a little bitch....I deserve to get my ass kicked doing what I'm doing. Please all of the bros just give me some guidance, i'm so lost
 
xigotmailx said:
Dude, i'm sorry to thread jack but I need you to whoop my ass. For real. I look up to you DD but I know that I need you to ****ing Chuck Norris karate kick my face in. I have messed up so bad. I'm drinking, I'm doing mad amounts of drugs, hanging out with bad people. I'm a goddam retard. I lost everything I gained in my cycle, I am just lost period. PLEASE HIT ME

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Yo, not just DD, all of you all kick my ****ing ass. I'm such a little bitch....I deserve to get my ass kicked doing what I'm doing. Please all of the bros just give me some guidance, i'm so lost
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Is this a call to get DD back I his thread lol?
 
xigotmailx said:
Dude, i'm sorry to thread jack but I need you to whoop my ass. For real. I look up to you DD but I know that I need you to ****ing Chuck Norris karate kick my face in. I have messed up so bad. I'm drinking, I'm doing mad amounts of drugs, hanging out with bad people. I'm a goddam retard. I lost everything I gained in my cycle, I am just lost period. PLEASE HIT ME

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Yo, not just DD, all of you all kick my ****ing ass. I'm such a little bitch....I deserve to get my ass kicked doing what I'm doing. Please all of the bros just give me some guidance, i'm so lost
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Bro I'm one who have struggled with drugs badly. Stay away from the pple your hanging out with. I moved away when I was serious about my life and didn't think twice. Drugs will only kill you, and being on aas and recreational drugs are a bad combo. Get the **** off the ****!
 
Nah guys I'm completely serious. I've been laying down for hours not being able to sleep, I'm sweating but i'm cold. I'm never hanging out with my friend again, I always do bad **** when I'm with him
 
xigotmailx said:
Nah guys I'm completely serious. I've been laying down for hours not being able to sleep, I'm sweating but i'm cold. I'm never hanging out with my friend again, I always do bad **** when I'm with him
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Sorry to hear that bro! I have a thread I'm not done with that I started called reserection from the dead. Check it out and we can talk there. Its more about the same issues you have. I know were all buds here but don't wanna take over DD's thread. I will briefly tell you that asking for help is the best thing you can do. I use to shoot up meth in the bathrooms at school. You might feel good at the time but it will turn to hell quick. All I can say is get too eating and taking your multi vitamins to clear out the poisons in your body. Get a strong support group. Set goals for yourself. And build your body up and not tear it too **** on rec drugs. Lifes short! I've got 5 buddies dead from the **** and they wernt even as bad as I was. I just got lucky. Check my thread out bro. You can turn this around and u need to do it now.
 
xigotmailx said:
Nah guys I'm completely serious. I've been laying down for hours not being able to sleep, I'm sweating but i'm cold. I'm never hanging out with my friend again, I always do bad **** when I'm with him
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What kind of drugs?
 
Oh Sh*t guys. I'm back. I'm really sorry on the absence but my life took a huge cr@p on my chest lol. Some very serious sh*t came up and my logs went down on my priority list. I kept working out, eating right, cardio and my workout logbook up to date.

I took second in the strongman... and I was the littlest guy lol. I'm stoked about how I did but I payed the price. A few days after I couldn't move my arm and I had some serious shoulder pain. I had to go to the ER. apparently I seperated a muscle in my shoulder from the tissue that holds it together or some crazy sh*t. I took some time off from hitting upper body for a week and did cardio and leg workouts.

Came back and started hitting upper body again. The shoulder is kinda sore but nothing major and the Doctors gave me the ok to start lifting again.

I am gunna post my workout progress and stuff this weekend. I am taking care of the last of the "thing" that has been going on and I am back to the usual schedule stuff.
 
DangerDave said:
Oh Sh*t guys. I'm back. I'm really sorry on the absence but my life took a huge cr@p on my chest lol. Some very serious sh*t came up and my logs went down on my priority list. I kept working out, eating right, cardio and my workout logbook up to date.

I took second in the strongman... and I was the littlest guy lol. I'm stoked about how I did but I payed the price. A few days after I couldn't move my arm and I had some serious shoulder pain. I had to go to the ER. apparently I seperated a muscle in my shoulder from the tissue that holds it together or some crazy sh*t. I took some time off from hitting upper body for a week and did cardio and leg workouts.

Came back and started hitting upper body again. The shoulder is kinda sore but nothing major and the Doctors gave me the ok to start lifting again.

I am gunna post my workout progress and stuff this weekend. I am taking care of the last of the "thing" that has been going on and I am back to the usual schedule stuff.
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Glad your back bro! Hope **** works out for the better. Congrats on 2nd next I want a first haha
 
msrider said:
Glad your back bro! Hope **** works out for the better. Congrats on 2nd next I want a first haha
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Ha you got it man! So that reminds me... I had some comments made to me from some guys at the gym. They think I should compete in some bodybuilding shows next winter. They are some pretty big guys and they compete as well. I was told I am growing evenly and getting nice size and that I have the frame to pack on some muscle.

I'm seriously thinking about it. I even went as far as looking at hiring a trainer and coach. Nothing full time but maybe a once a week thing to critique and help me prepare. I talked with my girl and she is all for it.

I deploy to Afghan in the spring of 2013 and will be back in the fall of 2013 so that would give me enough time to bulk for 7 months then come back and start a lean bulk bridged to a cut and peak for the spring competition in spring 2014.

What do you guys think?
 
DangerDave said:
Ha you got it man! So that reminds me... I had some comments made to me from some guys at the gym. They think I should compete in some bodybuilding shows next winter. They are some pretty big guys and they compete as well. I was told I am growing evenly and getting nice size and that I have the frame to pack on some muscle.

I'm seriously thinking about it. I even went as far as looking at hiring a trainer and coach. Nothing full time but maybe a once a week thing to critique and help me prepare. I talked with my girl and she is all for it.

I deploy to Afghan in the spring of 2013 and will be back in the fall of 2013 so that would give me enough time to bulk for 7 months then come back and start a lean bulk bridged to a cut and peak for the spring competition in spring 2014.

What do you guys think?
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DD! Finally bro, we have all missed you. I hope you recover quickly, shoulders are a biatch!

I say go for it bro and start competing....why not give t a try. It would definitely be sick to go on stage and flex for the world lol
 
technique88 said:
DD! Finally bro, we have all missed you. I hope you recover quickly, shoulders are a biatch!

I say go for it bro and start competing....why not give t a try. It would definitely be sick to go on stage and flex for the world lol
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I second this man! If you've got the right proportions etc etc go for it!! Good to have you back bro!
 
DangerDave said:
Ha you got it man! So that reminds me... I had some comments made to me from some guys at the gym. They think I should compete in some bodybuilding shows next winter. They are some pretty big guys and they compete as well. I was told I am growing evenly and getting nice size and that I have the frame to pack on some muscle.

I'm seriously thinking about it. I even went as far as looking at hiring a trainer and coach. Nothing full time but maybe a once a week thing to critique and help me prepare. I talked with my girl and she is all for it.

I deploy to Afghan in the spring of 2013 and will be back in the fall of 2013 so that would give me enough time to bulk for 7 months then come back and start a lean bulk bridged to a cut and peak for the spring competition in spring 2014.

What do you guys think?
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Sounds like a bad ass plan bro and welcome back to AM!
 
Thanks fellas. Good to be back and have life return to normal... AAS, Gym, food, sleep and sex.... maybe work in there too Haha.

I weighed in and had BF done today. 203 and 9%. I have maintainef a steady weight of 200-208 these last 2 weeks. 208 is usually the morning after a carb refeed.

I am cutting water and leaning then Sunday morning get some pictures up for you guys.

PCT starts Sunday. I will go into depth on my pct plans as well as how my bloodwork came back when I get home on my computer.
 
DangerDave said:
Ha you got it man! So that reminds me... I had some comments made to me from some guys at the gym. They think I should compete in some bodybuilding shows next winter. They are some pretty big guys and they compete as well. I was told I am growing evenly and getting nice size and that I have the frame to pack on some muscle.

I'm seriously thinking about it. I even went as far as looking at hiring a trainer and coach. Nothing full time but maybe a once a week thing to critique and help me prepare. I talked with my girl and she is all for it.

I deploy to Afghan in the spring of 2013 and will be back in the fall of 2013 so that would give me enough time to bulk for 7 months then come back and start a lean bulk bridged to a cut and peak for the spring competition in spring 2014.

What do you guys think?
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You gots to go for it bro! We live just once don't leave nothing back.
 
Sup Dave, figured u had some man type activity going on. Glad ur back. 203 @ 9% is pretty beast. I just finished tren bridged it into epi/stano hoping to get rid of the gyno I got. If that doesn't work I'm running nolva in pct. congrats on the strong man
 
csa2179 said:
Sup Dave, figured u had some man type activity going on. Glad ur back. 203 @ 9% is pretty beast. I just finished tren bridged it into epi/stano hoping to get rid of the gyno I got. If that doesn't work I'm running nolva in pct. congrats on the strong man
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Thanks brother. Its good to be back on the forums. Epi/stano should knock out that gyno.
 
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