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Is there a major difference between the 2?
A stronger muscle has the potential to be a bigger muscle. Anyone who says that you can't gain a significant amount of mass with either of these programs is an idiot.I know a lot of places suggest switching up between the 2, is that really necessary?
I was reading some places they are more focused on catering to the needs of a powerlifter, not someone trying to gain mass; which is what I am shooting for..
For what purpose?Which would you recommend out of the 2?
Mass building..For what purpose?
They can both be used effectively for mass building.Mass building..
I have been keeping my workouts to 6-10 x 2..and going up as much as I can, I also added decline BP to my routine and took out DB presses for chest..I plateaued on my squats which sucks =\
Today I am shooting for adding 10 lbs to the bar (I usually put up about 150-160) and hopefully I don't run into any problems.
Both are excellent templates. I like to do WS4SB in season for my sport, in the off season which is about 6 months long, I like to do 5/3/1 and do a cycle. Both will pack on mass if your diet is in check.Is there a major difference between the 2?
No, it doesn't work like that. The 5/3/1 is based on progression from week to week. So that wouldn't work. Pick one and stick to it for months, and even Years.I'll just run with both I guess..one week WS4SB and then another week the 5/3/1..diet I'm working on, but on the brighter side, my stomach is as flat as ever according to my girlfriend I have a "wingspan" now lol.
How you eat will determine your mass gain more than training 5/3/1 vs WS4SB.Mass building..
I have been keeping my workouts to 6-10 x 2..and going up as much as I can, I also added decline BP to my routine and took out DB presses for chest..I plateaued on my squats which sucks =\
Today I am shooting for adding 10 lbs to the bar (I usually put up about 150-160) and hopefully I don't run into any problems.
eat, every two hours.. Dont eat because your hungry. Treat it like a workout.. Be like im going to go eat some pb at 2. Than at 2 go and eat PBWhile I have people's attention here: any ideas on how I can train myself to eat more?
That I can't help you with...I'm on the total endomorph end of things so eating has never been my issue.While I have people's attention here: any ideas on how I can train myself to eat more?
I think most of the other posters already covered this, but don't do the program one week this and one week that. That's not enough time for any routine to serve as effective. You don't go from medicore to a success in a week. To become a Doctor it takes 8 years, to become a nurse in takes 2-4, to become a Marine it takes 3 months plus preparation. Why would only a week account for success in transformation of your body? Believe me, it takes longer than that. Some can do it in just a few months, and for some it takes years, but only the dedicated overcome those odds. You can't just give it a week and expect anything to happen, you have to bust your ass with each program for months.While I have people's attention here: any ideas on how I can train myself to eat more?
I'd say just pick one for a solid 6 months and then try the other one. 5/3/1 first for just general strength which you can translate over into the WS4SB for training explosive strength if you'd want to switch. Just a recommendation.I'll just run with both I guess..one week WS4SB and then another week the 5/3/1..diet I'm working on, but on the brighter side, my stomach is as flat as ever according to my girlfriend I have a "wingspan" now lol.
I would love to hear your view on each comparing them and the benefit of each. which would you recommend to what type of goal.They can both be used effectively for mass building.
My reason for wanting to switch every is because I don't want my muscles to get used to the workout routine..I'm committing myself 150%, whether it's with either of these or another.I think most of the other posters already covered this, but don't do the program one week this and one week that. That's not enough time for any routine to serve as effective. You don't go from medicore to a success in a week. To become a Doctor it takes 8 years, to become a nurse in takes 2-4, to become a Marine it takes 3 months plus preparation. Why would only a week account for success in transformation of your body? Believe me, it takes longer than that. Some can do it in just a few months, and for some it takes years, but only the dedicated overcome those odds. You can't just give it a week and expect anything to happen, you have to bust your ass with each program for months.
Progressive resistance with a periodic deload will keep your muscles from "getting used to" either of the routines referenced in the OP.My reason for wanting to switch every is because I don't want my muscles to get used to the workout routine..I'm committing myself 150%, whether it's with either of these or another.
As long as you're progressing with weight it'll keep up the additional stimuli for muscle growth. It's not going to magically stop within a month or two. You don't need to completely change routines either. You can just rotate different exercises into your current program every month for the whole 'muscle confusion' thing.My reason for wanting to switch every is because I don't want my muscles to get used to the workout routine..I'm committing myself 150%, whether it's with either of these or another.
Ok thanks..I have kinda hit a plateau, and been stuck there for a while..my BP is at 170x10 (widegrip) and my curls are at 35's everything else is going up but those two..any ideas on switching up exercises? I thought about taking out the curls and replacing them with Zottmans..but I feel like I'm going to have to drop some weight off, and I don't want to go backwards.As long as you're progressing with weight it'll keep up the additional stimuli for muscle growth. It's not going to magically stop within a month or two. You don't need to completely change routines either. You can just rotate different exercises into your current program every month for the whole 'muscle confusion' thing.
You could either try hitting up DBs and dropping the BB for a little while and/or hitting your triceps harder. Weighted dips are the best accessory exercise for the bench, I think. Also I personally love Zottman Curls or you could also try straight bar curls. Make sure you're working on your forearms too.Ok thanks..I have kinda hit a plateau, and been stuck there for a while..my BP is at 170x10 (widegrip) and my curls are at 35's everything else is going up but those two..any ideas on switching up exercises? I thought about taking out the curls and replacing them with Zottmans..but I feel like I'm going to have to drop some weight off, and I don't want to go backwards.
5/3/1 is something that is meant for as a long-term plan (a year or so) and far too many think it is something that you can do for 3 months and expect to get the results that they desire. For the average trainee looking for some extra mass and strength, it is a great template.I would love to hear your view on each comparing them and the benefit of each. which would you recommend to what type of goal.
As mentioned by another poster, your muscles don't get used to workout routines, they only get "used to" stimulus. If you're using progressive resistance, then your giving your body new stimulus each workout. What that means is to add weight each week, or if you can't add weight add a rep, do an extra set, slower tempo, etc. Preferably, you should add new weight. Your body doesn't get used to specific exercise and no longer respond. You just have to continually give your body something new to grow from, which is done by adding weight to exercises.My reason for wanting to switch every is because I don't want my muscles to get used to the workout routine..I'm committing myself 150%, whether it's with either of these or another.
^ Pretty much everything said here is great advice.You could either try hitting up DBs and dropping the BB for a little while and/or hitting your triceps harder. Weighted dips are the best accessory exercise for the bench, I think. Also I personally love Zottman Curls or you could also try straight bar curls. Make sure you're working on your forearms too.
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