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I wouldnt run winny as an athelete. How could you run with those back pumps? lol
 
and dry joints
 
warbird01 said:
I wouldnt run winny as an athelete. How could you run with those back pumps? lol
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I would. And you don't always run the compound during the season. I have never changed a workout due to back or shin pumps. Some people take 5g of taurine and a pain killer, I take 200lbs of man the fuk up. The Pain creates the prize my friend. Just like someone who skips shoulder day cuz of pip.
And winny is actually a commonly used anabolic for athletic performance.
 
reps4jesus said:
I would. And you don't always run the compound during the season. I have never changed a workout due to back or shin pumps. Some people take 5g of taurine and a pain killer, I take 200lbs of man the fuk up. The Pain creates the prize my friend. Just like someone who skips shoulder day cuz of pip.
And winny is actually a commonly used anabolic for athletic performance.
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Back pumps aren't a matter of "maning the **** up." Some people get them so bad they literally cannot walk.

You may have never changed a workout due to back pumps, but I doubt you are training like an athlete.

Good point on the offseason though, but most athletes have to run year round. The way I get back pumps, running is impossible on winny.
 
warbird01 said:
Back pumps aren't a matter of "maning the **** up." Some people get them so bad they literally cannot walk.

You may have never changed a workout due to back pumps, but I doubt you are training like an athlete.

Good point on the offseason though, but most athletes have to run year round. The way I get back pumps, running is impossible on winny.
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If I Said I had gotten them that bad I'd be lying. But I have gotten very painful pumps in my shins especially. Why do you doubt I train like an athlete? I do overhead squats and many Olympic lifts lol
 
reps4jesus said:
If I Said I had gotten them that bad I'd be lying. But I have gotten very painful pumps in my shins especially. Why do you doubt I train like an athlete? I do overhead squats and many Olympic lifts lol
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I doubt it off of of an educated guess. Most people around here workout for size, some PL/Olympic. Not many people are doing a cardio like an athelete around here. And when I refer to an athlete, I am not talking about lifting sports, but I guess they are athletes too.
 
warbird01 said:
I doubt it off of of an educated guess. Most people around here workout for size, some PL/Olympic. Not many people are doing a cardio like an athelete around here. And when I refer to an athlete, I am not talking about lifting sports, but I guess they are athletes too.
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Well my friend, I train bjj and Mma. I have no choice but to train like an athlete. I do hiit cardio and I lift heavy sh!t. So I train like an athlete ;) honestly my leg day is intense enough I count that as a a cardio day also lol
 
I wasnt sure on the doses, i can get the cycle, i just wanted to see if it was even worth my time

I personally am 190, 7% body fat and 6'1

Want to stay lean for the athletic look
 
reps4jesus said:
I would. And you don't always run the compound during the season. I have never changed a workout due to back or shin pumps. Some people take 5g of taurine and a pain killer, I take 200lbs of man the fuk up. The Pain creates the prize my friend. Just like someone who skips shoulder day cuz of pip.
And winny is actually a commonly used anabolic for athletic performance.
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Just AWESOME!!!!!
 
reps4jesus said:
Well my friend, I train bjj and Mma. I have no choice but to train like an athlete. I do hiit cardio and I lift heavy sh!t. So I train like an athlete ;) honestly my leg day is intense enough I count that as a a cardio day also lol
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I like this one too... I do BJJ too and shin/back pumps have never been a problem while rolling. Only when jogging/running do the shin pumps ****ing KILL!!!
 
grappler22 said:
I like this one too... I do BJJ too and shin/back pumps have never been a problem while rolling. Only when jogging/running do the shin pumps ****ing KILL!!!
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Honesty, when I started using gear it was in no way beneficial to my grappling. I was much faster at takedowns and was stronger than everyone's in my division but i can't quite put my finger on why it just felt harder after that. My endurance was up to...idk. I do like it for Mma though. I personally love natty stacks when I'm going into a fight. Gear is for off time IMO.
 
reps4jesus said:
Honesty, when I started using gear it was in no way beneficial to my grappling. I was much faster at takedowns and was stronger than everyone's in my division but i can't quite put my finger on why it just felt harder after that. My endurance was up to...idk. I do like it for Mma though. I personally love natty stacks when I'm going into a fight. Gear is for off time IMO.
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Its difficult to lift hard and also train BJJ hard. They are both physically taxing in there own way. But yes I agree (in a way) that while on test and winny, my bjj seemed to suffer. I also felt myself over heating easily. but I am going to do the test/winny stack in June.
 
grappler22 said:
Its difficult to lift hard and also train BJJ hard. They are both physically taxing in there own way. But yes I agree (in a way) that while on test and winny, my bjj seemed to suffer. I also felt myself over heating easily. but I am going to do the test/winny stack in June.
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Also, what stacks have you done with success for BJJ endurance and recovery? I am also looking to cut some visceral and lower chest fat that just seems to always be there..lol
 
grappler22 said:
Also, what stacks have you done with success for BJJ endurance and recovery? I am also looking to cut some visceral and lower chest fat that just seems to always be there..lol
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I know this sounds funny but any test base IMO. The alpha male feeling can be the difference between winning and loosing. 4-ad at 1 g a day helps. Real test is better. I'm sure trest would be ok.
But I personably think bjj is very mental.
 
reps4jesus said:
I know this sounds funny
But I personably think bjj is very mental.
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Is it? I'm always on the receiving side, so never thought much about the training an mental aspect for those giving them.

How many hours do you practice giving blow jobs, before you are a bjj?
 
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