Why wasn't he Arrested??!!!

anabolicrhino said:
Democracies demand discourse between opposing veiw points.

When an individuals opinion is repressed because of fear of retribution, then the democracy becomes a despotic state.

When xenophobes (those that "fear" things that are"different")
try to "frag" individuals with "different" viewpoints, then the democracy is moving toward despotism(which is bad!) I think that fits rather nicely, don't you?

Allow me to be brutally honest here.

The obvious has obvously escaped you. It got fvck sh1t to do with 'different viewpoints'. It has everything to do with mistakes (some honest, some deliberate), errors (some knowingly, some unknowingly presented), falsehood, perverted logic, mistakenly labelled as "different viewpoints" . They are not just 'different" They are plain WRONG and not really worth a piss at! The facts are wrong. The logic is fvcked up.

You got fragged b/c you were trying to ape Mad Howl Dean's political spin. You thought spinning is a cool debating technique. Wrong! Spining just shoots your credibility to the toilet.

You want to be taken seriously? Easy. Get your facts correct. Don't make things up. Present the complete facts. Don't pick and choose bits and pieces. That makes you sound like Mad Howl Dean's cronies.

You don't go around demanding people respect your 'different viewpoints' or learn from your 'different viewpoints'. Your so called 'different viewpoints' have to be worth paying attention to and worth learning from, in order for people to consider taking them seriously.

It is about the merit of the content. Just b/c you have something that is 'different', doesn't automatically mean it is worth anything. These days and age, people automatically presume that just because they have something to say, they have a right to demand others listen, respect and learn from them.
 
CallmeClark said:
Umm Again, forgive my interruption... Who's in a democracy? Certainly not us here in the states. This is a Representative Republic. There is a difference.


This is where I would normally yell, BINGO!

The USA was formed as a Democratic Republic or if you prefer a Representational Democracy. The goverment was based on the English system of equal representation in the Parlement. The average man does not have the time or the faculties to manage the government, so we are "empowered" with the ability to elect "representatives" to act on our behalf. They run the government by a broad "power of attorney" type authority. The founders also sensed that the government could not function as a "popular opinion" mandate. Jefferson, Adams and Hamilton knew that the "opinions" of men could be controled through "deception" and "spin doctoring"
The Electorial College was created to repel the "effects" of "popular voting cliques". It also helps keep a powerful elite in leadership positions. This is to prevent Mickey Mouse or Homer Simpson from the elected government. It is a "paradox" because the "voting college" is both the "sustaining" body and the "weakest link" of our goverment. The trade off is while we can keep the Homer Simpsons out, we severly limit our choice to canidates that can survive the primaries, as opposed to who can do the best job.
Our government in not designed to run on "partisan alliences". It is designed to run through a "balance of powers" distributed through; Legislative, Judicial and Exective officers....The touble starts when, the "Executive" branch which is designed to be the "caretaker of the constitution" wants more of the legislative (law making) power reserved (by the constitution) for congress. Ideally, this is where the Judicial branch would rule on the "constitutionality" of the executive power grab. Some would argue that, the legislative branch would move too slowly in an emergency (surprize attack), so the executive needs more "power" to better "secure" our "domestic liberties".Any emergencies are designed to be "handled" by the Department of Defense, which can act through the military to protect our government. The DOD/military (under the orders of the exective branch) is still ultimately answerable to congress, as is the president.

The lynchpin is that once the judicial branch has been filled with judges appointed ( for life!) by the sitting president, they "may" be subject to a conflict of interest. This "imbalance of power" could then lead a democratic society towards despotism. Where the top executive can cite "privlidge of office" and not be accountable to congressional review.
This is what we have today, what you call a representative republic The government "by" the people, "for" the people and "of" the people is now regulated by a "power elite" as to who has equal opportunity to which equal rights. Where security is a weapon against Life, Liberty and the pursuit of happiness!
 
BioHazzard said:
Allow me to be brutally honest here.

The obvious has obvously escaped you. It got fvck sh1t to do with 'different viewpoints'. It has everything to do with mistakes (some honest, some deliberate), errors (some knowingly, some unknowingly presented), falsehood, perverted logic, mistakenly labelled as "different viewpoints" . They are not just 'different" They are plain WRONG and not really worth a piss at! The facts are wrong. The logic is fvcked up.

You got fragged b/c you were trying to ape Mad Howl Dean's political spin. You thought spinning is a cool debating technique. Wrong! Spining just shoots your credibility to the toilet.

You want to be taken seriously? Easy. Get your facts correct. Don't make things up. Present the complete facts. Don't pick and choose bits and pieces. That makes you sound like Mad Howl Dean's cronies.

You don't go around demanding people respect your 'different viewpoints' or learn from your 'different viewpoints'. Your so called 'different viewpoints' have to be worth paying attention to and worth learning from, in order for people to consider taking them seriously.

It is about the merit of the content. Just b/c you have something that is 'different', doesn't automatically mean it is worth anything. These days and age, people automatically presume that just because they have something to say, they have a right to demand others listen, respect and learn from them.

"..you talkin' to me?.....well I don't see anybody else around here, so you must be talikn to me!"...okay alright,..how about this!, you weren't ready for this! , were you?"...Deniro in Taxi Driver, a very political movie about respect...rent it sometime its worth the watch...............

Now, why would you presume that I would want your respect?

I have lived 41 years without it. so please don't tease me with what I don't need.

I don't think I have ever made any demands on this forum, as to respect or otherwise.

I think it is just precious, how you have set yourself up as the purveyor of "truthful facts" and demigod of faithful experience,
by simply "defending" a few points that I have "never" mentioned in any of my posts..... ah,well done sir!

Its just that your replies are so painfully "patterned and reactive". I can make you respond to my posts just by typing a few key words(?)...which to answer your question from another thread, is what I do for a living...gotcha again, third time is the charm! Might I recommend an online gaming community? Frag boy
 
A word of advice. You might want to think about what Bobo commented on regarding your posts in the closed thread....

Go have a drink :drunk: :drunk: :cheers: :cheers: and less of :nono: :type: :nono:

Live Hard!
Live Fast!
Die Young!
Dianabol! :bb2: :bb: :chick: :hot:
 
BioHazzard said:
A word of advice. You might want to think about what Bobo commented on regarding your posts in the closed thread....

Go have a drink :drunk: :drunk: :cheers: :cheers: and less of :nono: :type: :nono:

Live Hard!
Live Fast!
Die Young!
Dianabol! :bb2: :bb: :chick: :hot:

I knew we would finally agree!!!!(woohoo)

All this political intrigue just makes me dizzy!!

I am off to the gym!

I will too busy distracting myself with sports and sex to care who is running the world!!!!!!!

Stay strong my friend!!!

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"Fredo your my brother and I love you, but never take sides against the family again"- Michael Corleone-GODFATHER(1970)












Who cares who runs the world!!!!
 
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