Why is the general consensus about andros on here that they don't kick in until after 4 weeks? The West Texas A&M study on 1-DHEA that everyone cites was only 4 weeks long and showed it very effective within that timeline.
Yeah epi is supposed to be very harsh on the hair line.I enjoy them, I will prob run 4ad next time, I run Epi this time as my base and its ok but hair loss started for me
It was R-Andro actually, it shed my hair abit, I ran Stano before and had no issues at allYeah epi is supposed to be very harsh on the hair line.
Too many variables to properly answer that accurately.What kind of strength gains could a user expect to see on an 8 week andro run? 10 pound increase on compound lifts? 20? 30?
Im curious what the average user experiences on a longer run since im planning a cycle soon with strength gains being the primary goal
25,Too many variables to properly answer that accurately.
Age?
Training/training experience?
Diet?
Genetics?
Compounds/Combination of compounds?
Dosage of compound(s)
On a side note, if you're looking for a strength building Andro then Epi-Andro would be my recommendation
If you run Epi-Andro it'll serve as both a strength enhancing compound and as your Test Base, so you won't need to be risking all of the issues that arise with 4-Andro.25,
lifting for close to 6 years now,
naturally ectomorphic body type,
generally train with strength based powerlifting programs,
330-440mg for 8 weeks of 1-andro with 4-andro as a test base only when needed (im usually pretty good at fighting lethargy off)
What kind of strength gains do you think someone with those "stats" could make on an 8 (or even 12) week 1-andro run?
I will have to look in to epi-andro more as well so thank you for that recommendation
Slightly off topic but I've had the down under shrikage before, just curious as to how you fixed yours?Cons:
- Crushes libido
- Shrinkage down under
your balls come back in pct, clomidSlightly off topic but I've had the down under shrikage before, just curious as to how you fixed yours?
For now I've just been taking SUP3R-PCT and giving it time. Things are returning, but not 100% yet. Will probably do some bloods at the 4 month mark.Slightly off topic but I've had the down under shrikage before, just curious as to how you fixed yours?
That's probably why they haven't returned. No proper pctFor now I've just been taking SUP3R-PCT and giving it time. Things are returning, but not 100% yet. Will probably do some bloods at the 4 month mark.
It might take longer naturally, but I feel for the most part the body recovers better.That's probably why they haven't returned. No proper pct
Well it sounds like epi andro would be more suited for my goals in that caseIf you run Epi-Andro it'll serve as both a strength enhancing compound and as your Test Base, so you won't need to be risking all of the issues that arise with 4-Andro.
With Training, diet, sleep and supplementation all on point I'd say you could expect to gain about 15-20lbs on your main lifts in about 10 weeks.
Epi-Andro-750mg ED
1-Andro-330mg ED
My second PH run was a solo Epi-Andro cycle
250/500/500/750/750/750/1000/1000/750
I put 12.5kg(27.5lbs) on my working 8-10 rep bench press,
10kg(22lbs) on my working 6-10 rep deadlift,
6kg(13lbs) on my working 8-12 rep squat.
I always use Clomid as my SERM anyway, I'm just looking for different/better/faster protocols.your balls come back in pct, clomid
Better, how?It might take longer naturally, but I feel for the most part the body recovers better.
I experienced the same thing down below, on about day 3 of clomid & superPCT I noticed a slight change. After a week, everything is hanging 100% where it was before I began my run and I'm am only using 25.It might take longer naturally, but I feel for the most part the body recovers better.
By week 2 of my last run I noticed endurance went up, by week 3 some strength and slight body composition began. So week 4-8 were full on gains. Sure, you can make some gains in a month, but nothing in comparison to 8 weeks. Since you are already paying for on-cycle, and a PCT, just drop the extra 100 and roll with 8-weeks.Why is the general consensus about andros on here that they don't kick in until after 4 weeks? The West Texas A&M study on 1-DHEA that everyone cites was only 4 weeks long and showed it very effective within that timeline.
If you had to pick, which sounds better to you? 330mg for 8 weeks vs tapering up the dose for 6 weeks (something like 330/330/330/440/550/660)By week 2 of my last run I noticed endurance went up, by week 3 some strength and slight body composition began. So week 4-8 were full on gains. Sure, you can make some gains in a month, but nothing in comparison to 8 weeks. Since you are already paying for on-cycle, and a PCT, just drop the extra 100 and roll with 8-weeks.
That depends on what you are running. 330 sounds like OL andro 1 dose to me. If that is correct, 330 is the max. That's what I will run if I do it again, plus 1000 EPI. I would just take the full dose from start to finish.If you had to pick, which sounds better to you? 330mg for 8 weeks vs tapering up the dose for 6 weeks (something like 330/330/330/440/550/660)