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rtmilburn said:
Haha this made me laugh if it came down. To the US vs all of Asia in a real war we would still kick there ass. Numbers don't mean **** when you the weapons, tech and training we have not to mention most are our Allies.
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So in which way should the technical know how of south korea, japan and china not be enough to be even with the USA.
They are far more dangerous than russia for example if its only about tech.
 
BennyMagoo79 said:
Vietnam
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That wasn't exactly a "traditional" war. Running around in jungles isn't what the US is good at IMO. If the US wanted to, they could have destroyed Vietnam, but that wasn't their goal, and they engaged in a battle they just couldn't really "win." That in no way means Vietnam is/was a legitimate threat to the US, or was anywhere near the same level in regards to military capability.
 
BennyMagoo79 said:
It would likely lead to MAD. The US does not have the numbers for conventional victory in Asia. Also the tech advantage is likey diminished beyond our current understanding, particularly with regard to China. This is why we persue a containment policy by providing assistance to Taiwan.

Nationalism socialism religion and war are tools created to control the stupid.
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You forgot US corporate imperialism.
 
muscleupcrohn said:
That wasn't exactly a "traditional" war. Running around in jungles isn't what the US is good at IMO. If the US wanted to, they could have destroyed Vietnam, but that wasn't their goal, and they engaged in a battle they just couldn't really "win." That in no way means Vietnam is/was a legitimate threat to the US, or was anywhere near the same level in regards to military capability.
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This
 
rtmilburn said:
Haha this made me laugh if it came down. To the US vs all of Asia in a real war we would still kick there ass. Numbers don't mean **** when you the weapons, tech and training we have not to mention most are our Allies.
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Nah... 1 billion armed Chinese and Indian soldiers, on inflatable ducks, come swimming to US. Maybe on black ducks, at night, for surprise effect, that should do it.

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muscleupcrohn said:
That wasn't exactly a "traditional" war. Running around in jungles isn't what the US is good at IMO. If the US wanted to, they could have destroyed Vietnam, but that wasn't their goal, and they engaged in a battle they just couldn't really "win." That in no way means Vietnam is/was a legitimate threat to the US, or was anywhere near the same level in regards to military capability.
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But I wouldn't say the US is bad at jungle wars either look at ww2 against Japan. It just with Korea and Vietnam we weren't fighting it as a full out war. We fought it like we are now in the middle East now. Just trying to keep the opposition at bay more than anything else and well that doesn't work.
 
BennyMagoo79 said:
There are no longer any nations. There are Firms, and there are consumers.
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I agree. But I still don't agree with letting that being the excuse to create a single, one-world order like the Euro-Marxist nations want to do. Whether it be a nation, region or a firm or company that we're defined by, I'm siding with the ones that embrace common law and freedom from oppression.

And heyboy is totally having a comeback. His random google quotes are racking our brains and making us ponder and debate on things we'd otherwise never discuss on this board.
 
fueledpassion said:
I agree. But I still don't agree with letting that being the excuse to create a single, one-world order like the Euro-Marxist nations want to do. Whether it be a nation, region or a firm or company that we're defined by, I'm siding with the ones that embrace common law and freedom from oppression.

And heyboy is totally having a comeback. His random google quotes are racking our brains and making us ponder and debate on things we'd otherwise never discuss on this board.
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Think of it like this:

The world is a forest. We are the trees, the plants, the animals, the amoeba. Firms are the fungi that farm us all, lying beneath the surface of the forest floor, trading energy and resources with each other (interspecies coopoeration = global commerce), in constant competition, even sometimes warfare (attempting to disrupt the supply or access to their opponents' resources). They express in different manifestations, reflecting different strategies/philosophies, and despite being beholden to latent conditions (like weather, evolution, geology, time) the ones that survive to achieve critical mass grow and evolve over time and learn to adapt via trial and error, becoming supermassive highly diverse mega-organisms (for example there is one fungi that spans a significant portion of North America, controlling multiple ecosystems, transporting spores acrross deserts). Sometimes there is a major weather or geological event, and a supermassive fungal colony may become terminal or even suddenly collapse, and its systems and resources fail and atrophy, however this rarely happens at a rate that our minds can comprehend over a 80yr window of observation - we rely on recorded history to understand the variables involved in both the collapse of global firms and massive fungal colonies.

Both firms and fungi lack self awareness. They could be considered organic machines, made up of sentient components, designed to invent long term control strategies for the chaotic effects of indivudal choice, and individual self awareness. They invents substrates to allow cultivate mutual interest within their component organisms (firms build/control ideological substrates like religion and facebook as well as facilitate physical like infrastructure, fungi build highways under the earth to allow the root systems of different species of fauna to trade energy and resources even as their canopies compete for sunlight).

So yeah we're just living in this ****. Now, we do have some choice. You join the army and become an ant, fighting endless wars with other ants, often for reasons that were manipulated by the fungi below. You can sit at home on welfare eating cheeseballs and getting stoned, and procreating with your trailerpark neighbours if you want to be an amoebacyte. You work for a company on wages, and enjoy the satisfaction of daily chores which I guess makes you some kind of bug or beatle (depending on your trade), you could be an animal of the canopies, farming bugs and consuming other animals to feed the firms with your rich **** falling upon the forest floor, you could be a sole trader - a freelancing bird that must constantly control its mass and consumption to stay in the air, you could be a sociopath (and these can take different forms and positions in society), a cat, roaming the forest floor and its trees killing and ****ing for the pleasure of it, fertilising the forest floor with remains and nutrient poor poo.
 
The roof, the roof, the roof is on fire
We don't need no water let the mother****er burn
Burn mother****er burn
 
David Dunn said:
The roof, the roof, the roof is on fire
We don't need no water let the mother****er burn
Burn mother****er burn
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God can be realized through all paths. All religions are true. The important thing is to reach the roof. You can reach it by stone stairs or by wooden stairs or by bamboo steps or by a rope. You can also climb up by a bamboo pole.
 
heyboy said:
God can be realized through all paths. All religions are true. The important thing is to reach the roof. You can reach it by stone stairs or by wooden stairs or by bamboo steps or by a rope. You can also climb up by a bamboo pole.
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And here is where you have taken a sharp turn to nonsense. Have you ever studied multiple religions? Truth is not subjective. It is or it isn't. You can't say, "this is my truth" and it turns out to be fallacy elsewhere. If God exists, there can only be one truth, period.

Many religions directly conflict with each other, and everything goes against the New Testament, for instance. So lets not fill people's heads with this pluralism nonsense. Two polar-opposite viewpoints cannot both be accurate.
 
fueledpassion said:
And here is where you have taken a sharp turn to nonsense. Have you ever studied multiple religions? Truth is not subjective. It is or it isn't. You can't say, "this is my truth" and it turns out to be fallacy elsewhere. If God exists, there can only be one truth, period.

Many religions directly conflict with each other, and everything goes against the New Testament, for instance. So lets not fill people's heads with this pluralism nonsense. Two polar-opposite viewpoints cannot both be accurate.
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Haha I totally disagree. Sure what they teach may conflict but doesn't mean one is wrong. More so that they teach you to be a good person and put you through trails to prove you're worthy. Whatever there is, is so complex we cannot comprehend what it is and what truth is.
 
Oooh, a discussion on relativism. Did someone mention Kant and Plato earlier....?
 
Caldwood said:
Or the size of uranus?
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I need to see my own beauty and to continue to be reminded that I am enough, that I am worthy of love without effort, that I am beautiful, that the texture of my hair and that the shape of my curves, the size of my lips, the color of my skin, and the feelings that I have are all worthy and okay.
 
gigante35 said:
Because the way it is oooooh yea, 2pac RIP!!!
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It's the game of life. Do I win or do I lose? One day they're gonna shut the game down. I gotta have as much fun and go around the board as many times as I can before it's my turn to leave.
 
DTA said:
I've wondered the same thing.
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I have often wondered how it is that every man loves himself more than all the rest of men, but yet sets less value on his own opinions of himself than on the opinions of others.
 
I have often wondered how it is that someone copies the quotes of others, thinking that it contributes to something.
 
justhere4comm said:
Another original idea bites the dust at the hands of imbecilic parroting.
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Why or how is that statement showing "anarchy"? Serious question.

What it does say as far as I can tell is that the alleged "inferior" people tend to be the political activists that readily influence & shape our political/legislative climate.
 
Bartmac36 said:
They are soooo much more convenient lol its a pretty obvious reason

Similar results with a lot less headache of getting your hands on them and wondering if they are legit or not
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A small pepperoni pizza on a tortilla is healthier than salmon teriyaki with rice and carrots.
 
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