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Why do non competitive lifters take gear?

Some people just love lifting and use it as a hobby, and want to see faster progress. And some people just wanna be big af
 
What kind of sense does it make for a guy to question why someone else does or doesn’t do something?
 
Oh and another important reason - speed / duration at which healing occurs. You may find that you have a nagging injury that disappears quite rapidly.
 
CompeteNPC said:
What kind of sense does it make for a guy to use gear if they are not competing nor have any aspirations to do so?
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Vanity. To look good naked and to get attention from women. Likes on Instagram and Facebook. There’s no other reason to do it if you aren’t competing. A lot of non competitors use gear because they are extremely insecure. I’ve seen some non competing guys who use gear recently come off of gear and omg they look so different. Like night and day. Like regular average Joe’s. Everything is gone and they look depressed, embarrassed, etc. one old guy I know stopped using gear and he now looks like a frail old man. It’s one of those scenarios where you look at the guy your jaw drops and you’re like “wtf happened to your muscle man!” Craziest part is that these drastic changes happen within only a few months of being off gear. Why use gear if the end goal is to eventually looking weaker, fatter and smaller than you were before you started gear?
 
BlockBuilder said:
Vanity. To look good naked and to get attention from women. There’s no other reason to do it if you aren’t competing. A lot of non competitors use gear because they are extremely insecure. I’ve seen some non competing guys who use gear recently come off of gear and omg they look so different. Like night and day. Like regular average Joe’s. Everything is gone and they look depressed, embarrassed, etc. one old guy I know stopped using gear and he now looks like a frail old man. It’s one of those scenarios where you look at the guy your jaw drops and you’re like “wtf happened to your muscle man!” Craziest part is that these drastic changes happen within only a few months of being off gear. Why use gear if the end goal is to eventually looking weaker, fatter and smaller than you were before you started gear?
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I think it depends entirely on what gear you’re talking about and what kind of training is maintained, post cycle. Are you describing AAS, or prohormones, myostatin inhibitors, etc?

Also, your comment about “that being the only factor” seems like gate-keeping and misses a couple of tangible factors mentioned above, such as healing times and injuries. I’ll throw another one in there - natural curiosity. Some of us like to explore the world, gain knowledge and experience things first hand.
 
Jm88888 said:
What kind of sense does it make for a guy to question why someone else does or doesn’t do something?
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I’m guessing, however it could be part of OP’s decision making process and he’s looking for external validation before choosing a path to follow. :)
 
Good point. It sounded very judgemental when I read it, but you may be right. My apologies OP
 
Jm88888 said:
Good point. It sounded very judgemental when I read it, but you may be right. My apologies OP
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I just realised that the original question is flawed.

OP, why is it that you believe that people who aren’t participating in bodybuilding comps are not competing?

You’re ALWAYS competing.

Have you ever noticed you get treated very differently when your physique is on-point? This is why Chad always wins.

You’re competing with the person next to you when attracting a sexual partner.

You’re competing with your literal competitors at work, when selling, gaining clients’ trust and closing deals.

At the most basic level, you’re competing with who you were yesterday and helping your unseen teammate succeed - your future self.

How you go about all of that is up to you, however I always look for the most efficient and safest route to achieve success in all areas.
 
mrhappyoz said:
I just realised that the original question is flawed.

OP, why is it that you believe that people who aren’t participating in bodybuilding comps are not competing?

You’re ALWAYS competing.

Have you ever noticed you get treated very differently when your physique is on-point? This is why Chad always wins.

You’re competing with the person next to you when attracting a sexual partner.

You’re competing with your literal competitors at work, when selling, gaining clients’ trust and closing deals.

At the most basic level, you’re competing with who you were yesterday and helping your unseen teammate succeed - your future self.

How you go about all of that is up to you, however I always look for the most efficient and safest route to achieve success in all areas.
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Bro OP is a notorious troll who has been around here forever with a heap of different accounts.

The answer to his question is tree fiddy
 
BlockBuilder said:
Vanity. To look good naked and to get attention from women. Likes on Instagram and Facebook. There’s no other reason to do it if you aren’t competing. A lot of non competitors use gear because they are extremely insecure. I’ve seen some non competing guys who use gear recently come off of gear and omg they look so different. Like night and day. Like regular average Joe’s. Everything is gone and they look depressed, embarrassed, etc. one old guy I know stopped using gear and he now looks like a frail old man. It’s one of those scenarios where you look at the guy your jaw drops and you’re like “wtf happened to your muscle man!” Craziest part is that these drastic changes happen within only a few months of being off gear. Why use gear if the end goal is to eventually looking weaker, fatter and smaller than you were before you started gear?
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This is the most valid answer. Extreme insecurities! Once they jump on and realize how they look, they're addicted. They want to feel power, feel big, feel alpha, feel dominant. There's nothing wrong with that either. However I would never recommend gear for lack of those qualities. Those qualities are all in the head. Don't need gear to attain any of those. Once they have it though it's a mean cycle. Coming on coming off coming on coming off. Being impatient and skimping or skipping pcts. Skimping on the time between cycles. All for that ego boost. I see it all the time. Especially amongst the teenage and mid twenties age group. Whole new person they morph into. Some into complete *******s. Bigger than life. It's like their key to everything they ever wanted. I don't like it or condone it but hell more power to em'. Sucks when they're close to you though.
 
There are thousands of men who struggle with depression and use psych pharms when the problem is low testosterone.

OP your threads make this place suck to visit. Thanks for all your cobtributions and a great reason to go somewhere else.
 
im not even gonna waste time answering this
 
I want to use because I had to stop lifting for 5 years due to shoulder injuries. And even though muscle memory is a wonderful thing, I want my shet back NOW.

5 years is long enough and if I could speed the process up all while feeling like a straight BOSS. Why not?

I’ll admit that I feel more secure and better about myself when I look better. But that doesn’t make me insecure when I don’t. I have more to offer than the state of my body lol.
 
BlockBuilder said:
Vanity. To look good naked and to get attention from women. Likes on Instagram and Facebook. There’s no other reason to do it if you aren’t competing. A lot of non competitors use gear because they are extremely insecure. I’ve seen some non competing guys who use gear recently come off of gear and omg they look so different. Like night and day. Like regular average Joe’s. Everything is gone and they look depressed, embarrassed, etc. one old guy I know stopped using gear and he now looks like a frail old man. It’s one of those scenarios where you look at the guy your jaw drops and you’re like “wtf happened to your muscle man!” Craziest part is that these drastic changes happen within only a few months of being off gear. Why use gear if the end goal is to eventually looking weaker, fatter and smaller than you were before you started gear?
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I agree somewhat.

Please take away Instagram, and Facebook

Love to see how many of these guys would take gear with no one to show.

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I see 20-22 pump so much gear through themselves, mainly for Instagram likes and to try win a trophy to increase their personal training business.

Guy at work, just spent 8k on gear. He's 119kg, 6'3. 3-4 years training, and massive as! He reacted well, but says he wants more! He admits he loves attention!

I remember when I was big, as in everyone accused me of using steroids. Nowadays I'm normal, well somewhat.

You're also absolutely right about them losing size.
One of the NABBA boys injuried himself, and lost like 15kg!

I go to Europe and party for 6 weeks, I come back looking leaner at 1KG lighter with no training.

Long term pays to be natural. I never got into it for those reasons tho.

It's rampant down here tho, especially when I go to Europe and everyone is skinny.

Last time I was in America, I thought everyone was tall and big! ?
 
They take it because they feel like it, steroids were not invented for competitive bodybuilders, weather you compete or not is not some magic right to use them. It's a personal preference that only matters weather or not YOU, ME or whoever in question wants to do it and there is not 1 single factor other then the persons choice that means 2 ****s
 
Make ‘Merica great again
 
Stupid question. Why do people who aren't racing drivers want fast cars. Why do people who don't enter pool tournaments play pool down the pub. Why do people with no intention of being in the porn industry get boob jobs. I think its because we are human. Curiosity and a need to have interests and hobbies drives people to do all kinds of strange stuff, some harmless some dangerous. Sometimes the danger adds to the attractiveness. I know someone that does rock climbing and parachute jumps. They don't enter competitions to do it. They pay other people money to let them do it.
 
Wobmarvel said:
Stupid question. Why do people who aren't racing drivers want fast cars. Why do people who don't enter pool tournaments play pool down the pub. Why do people with no intention of being in the porn industry get boob jobs. I think its because we are human. Curiosity and a need to have interests and hobbies drives people to do all kinds of strange stuff, some harmless some dangerous. Sometimes the danger adds to the attractiveness. I know someone that does rock climbing and parachute jumps. They don't enter competitions to do it. They pay other people money to let them do it.
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Just let his thread die, he will start another pointless one tomorrow
 
CompeteNPC said:
What kind of sense does it make for a guy to use gear if they are not competing nor have any aspirations to do so?
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What does competition have to do with anything? a PR is a PR regardless of if I'm wearing a singlet and have people staring at me while I do it. Strength is strength even if your not in a formal "competition".
 
Bigorexia for me. I just like being bigger stronger and faster than i can be.

Why be human when you can be suprahuman?!

Most people can be one or the other naturally, big or shreded. Not both, you see it in natty bodybuilders on stage. A guy who was 250 off season is 195 competing.
 
BlockBuilder said:
Vanity. To look good naked and to get attention from women. Likes on Instagram and Facebook. There’s no other reason to do it if you aren’t competing. A lot of non competitors use gear because they are extremely insecure. I’ve seen some non competing guys who use gear recently come off of gear and omg they look so different. Like night and day. Like regular average Joe’s. Everything is gone and they look depressed, embarrassed, etc. one old guy I know stopped using gear and he now looks like a frail old man. It’s one of those scenarios where you look at the guy your jaw drops and you’re like “wtf happened to your muscle man!” Craziest part is that these drastic changes happen within only a few months of being off gear. Why use gear if the end goal is to eventually looking weaker, fatter and smaller than you were before you started gear?
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I'm not insecure about my body, I lifted natural for 20 years. Found out recently I had low test and, since one major reason not to run gear was gone, the whole kill natural production, I use it now.
It's more about what I want than it is what others see...

I lifted my whole life to get big and be as strong as possible. Now I just do that on a nother level.
 
Ase_james said:
I'm not insecure about my body, I lifted natural for 20 years. Found out recently I had low test and, since one major reason not to run gear was gone, the whole kill natural production, I use it now.
It's more about what I want than it is what others see...

I lifted my whole life to get big and be as strong as possible. Now I just do that on a nother level.
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Why not TRT?
 
Some people would like to look a certain way. I suppose it’s similar to getting surgery to look a certain way
 
Because my passion is training and bodybuilding, and gear allows me to do things otherwise would not be possible. I only take testosterone.
Saying that, I would take testosterone for the health, sex benefits alone and I feel sooo much better on it.
 
Maybe they have to maintain a certain appearance as part of their job or business (e.g. personal training, model, etc.).

Maybe they have a job that benefits from a certain level of strength and size (e.g. law enforcement, security, emergency services).

Maybe they have nagging injuries or diminishing physique and health from advanced age which is greatly alleviated by gear.

No offence to those that do compete but most physique/strength related sports pay peanuts (Eddie Hall is the strongest man in the world and probably earns less than a moderately successful manual tradesman) and the general public don't give a crap (how many people off the street could name this year's Olympia winner, let alone who was third or fifth runner up?) So really how is competing a better reason than any other to take gear? Unless you're in the top 0.1% and can actually make decent money and recognition at it then really it's not even the best reason by a long shot, in my opinion.
 
Life itself is a competition and I want to win it.
I'm late twenties and on trt, before I started I was constantly depressed and my dick wasn't working right half the time.
I want to be the best human I can be body and mind, if there was a drug to make you smarter then wouldn't it make sense to take it? Same goes for strength. Some people are happy being average, I am not.
 
Whiteboyblue said:
Life itself is a competition and I want to win it.
I'm late twenties and on trt, before I started I was constantly depressed and my dick wasn't working right half the time.
I want to be the best human I can be body and mind, if there was a drug to make you smarter then wouldn't it make sense to take it? Same goes for strength. Some people are happy being average, I am not.
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If you had to get on TRT in your 20’s you aren’t winning lol.
 
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