Why didn't PES ABE make me Shift my pants?

tin gorilla

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I mentioned in another thread that I didn't receive any GI distress at all when I ran ABE for 2 months, but that the minute I use Forskolin 95% in any other product or standalone it's complete toilet destruction and near sharting myself. I have tried with/without food, reduced doses, yadda yadda and always the same results no matter what duration. The latest product to hammer my porcelain is PES Shift. I wasn't too surprised given my history and I'll just give the three bottles to my wife to use so no great loss.

What is bugging me though is that I can't help but feel that Anabeta Elite must be severly underdosed in the forskolin department. I have even tried dosing Analyzed Supplements Forskolin 95 at half caps and suffered fizzy gravy, so how low must the dose be in ABE? I'm a PES fan, but I can't see the point in including it if it's such a miniscule dosage or does a micro dose work synergistically with other ingredients in ABE?
 
It is adequately dosed, reps always say this,

Which we speculate to mean +/-50mg

ABE is usually taken with food, do you?
 
Like driven said, ABE is usually taken with meals which helps most people.

I personally have to take anything with F95 with food. For the new Shift I dose it with greek yogurt.
 
Maybe the anacyclus, lodhra or eleutherococcus counters the GI distress side effect of forskolin?
 
JudoJosh said:
Maybe the anacyclus, lodhra or eleutherococcus counters the GI distress side effect of forskolin?
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In what way do you think the MOA of one of these ingredients counters the MOA of forskolin? Could be worth investigating from a marketing perspective for PES if there is anything to it. I still suspect an inadequate dose given that half a 25mg cap of F95 sets me off.
 
Did you have a break from forskolin prior to you starting Shift?
 
It's the Lodhra

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Gastrointestinal Health



Lodhra has been traditionally used as an anti-diarrheal and for preventing “looseness of the bowels.”. It also seems to have a curative effect on GI ulcers that is comparable to clinical drugs. "

taken from Mr Coopers "Lodhra (Bark) Extract" thread in the PES subforum.

I can't post links unless I post more???? Hell I should be able to given I've been here longer than most here.
 
McBurly said:
It's the Lodhra

"
Gastrointestinal Health



Lodhra has been traditionally used as an anti-diarrheal and for preventing “looseness of the bowels.”. It also seems to have a curative effect on GI ulcers that is comparable to clinical drugs. "

taken from Mr Coopers "Lodhra (Bark) Extract" thread in the PES subforum.

I can't post links unless I post more???? Hell I should be able to given I've been here longer than most here.
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Must not have seen the post directly above yours :)
 
There you go.

I suspected it was most likely one of the other compounds
 
Anywhere you can get lodhra extract by itself to go with the f95? Started it a week ago and having a few emergencies lol
 
Stabsy said:
I managed to find some powder but not extract. Not sure if it is worth it. Are the GI issues likely to resolve itself?
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It could get better with time. I always start with a low dose and work my way up, which eliminates any GI issues for me.
 
breezy11 said:
It could get better with time. I always start with a low dose and work my way up, which eliminates any GI issues for me.
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Cheers man. I am only on 50mg so will bear with it for a couple of weeks.
 
Stabsy said:
Cheers man. I am only on 50mg so will bear with it for a couple of weeks.
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No problem man. Another thing that may help is dosing with food, if you aren't already.
 
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