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Who wants a new BLR SERM?!

Should BLR release a new SERM?

  • Yes New BLR SERM!!!

    Votes: 79 90.8%

  • No I love shady RC chems.

    Votes: 8 9.2%
  • Total voters
    87
brundel said:
Best bet is apply to upper chest, neck ,delts and rub in with wrist.
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have you ever considered trying a spray bottle type of application? This would allow for a very watery consistency but still good application.
 
Oral Syrine is the way too go. You can measure it out exactly and no worries about clogging pumps
or not applying the correct dosage, waste, etc...
 
booneman77 said:
have you ever considered trying a spray bottle type of application? This would allow for a very watery consistency but still good application.
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Yes but i prefer gels and most people prefer gels to sprays.
Ive spent a ton of time researching transdermal carrier technology.
I can make it a gel for sure i just didnt have the proper chems at the time. The retail version will be a thick gel, light scent, and some new ingredients that make it superior to the formeron carrier formula.
Absorption enhancers.
 
Cjg said:
How close to release day are you on the new transdermal?
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Not 100% sure. Depends on how testing goes and how quickly i can get enough of the ai made. I need to work on the carrier this week.
Testing is going on as we speak some of which is public and youll see these guys post whats happening.
Hopefully 4 weeksish.
2 more testing and formulation.
2 weeks to get more raws and all the components like ethanol etc for the carrier.
 
brundel said:
I would run rebirth and an ai. The ellagic cyclodextrin complex and e cottonii will acutely address the issue and the ai will help prevent it from returning.
If you buy the rebirth ill set you up with an ai.
Either our transdermal or the new oral depending on whats available.
I worked all day on a new transdermal carrier. Formeron had an amazing one but im improving it. Absorption should be exceptional.

You interested?
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if you truly believe it can help i will purchase.. I'm at the point where I'm thinking about starting to save up for gynecomastia surgery :(
i would opt for the transdermal because i have heard amazing things about formeron and that was TD correct?
 
rowz4broz said:
if you truly believe it can help i will purchase.. I'm at the point where I'm thinking about starting to save up for gynecomastia surgery :(
i would opt for the transdermal because i have heard amazing things about formeron and that was TD correct?
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Yes sir Formeron was a transdermal.
Look at it like this. Rebirth is 39.99. so 40 bucks.
Ill send the AI for free so you save ~ approx 45$.
Gyno surgery is in the thousands for sure. Its painful and you sometimes have to do it twice because they usually do one at a time. They cut off your nipple and scrape out the tissue and re attach. A FN nightmare.

I think trying the rebirth and AI should be a no brainer.
Have you tried SERM/AI combo before?

I would NEVER ever try to sell you on something I didnt think would work or help you. Im not that guy.
Im offering to help. Im also paying half of the cost.
If it works (90% sure it will) then the gain to you is immense.

If it doesnt your no worse off.
Generally SERM and AI therapy works to a degree depending on how bad the gyno is. It should always be the first line of defense.

Im working on the AI carrier this week. I should have more ready by next week and we can start then or right around then depending on when more of the AI arrives.

Let me know what you think bro.

DIsclaimer: REBIRTH is not a medication and is not intended to treat or cure any disease or ailment.
To be used for dietary supplementation only.
 
brundel said:
Yes sir Formeron was a transdermal.
Look at it like this. Rebirth is 39.99. so 40 bucks.
Ill send the AI for free so you save ~ approx 45$.
Gyno surgery is in the thousands for sure. Its painful and you sometimes have to do it twice because they usually do one at a time. They cut off your nipple and scrape out the tissue and re attach. A FN nightmare.

I think trying the rebirth and AI should be a no brainer.
Have you tried SERM/AI combo before?

I would NEVER ever try to sell you on something I didnt think would work or help you. Im not that guy.
Im offering to help. Im also paying half of the cost.
If it works (90% sure it will) then the gain to you is immense.

If it doesnt your no worse off.
Generally SERM and AI therapy works to a degree depending on how bad the gyno is. It should always be the first line of defense.

Im working on the AI carrier this week. I should have more ready by next week and we can start then or right around then depending on when more of the AI arrives.

Let me know what you think bro.

DIsclaimer: REBIRTH is not a medication and is not intended to treat or cure any disease or ailment.
To be used for dietary supplementation only.
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thats really solid Brundel...much respect :)
 
mechka_grizli said:
Tried tirst two pumps today, was not as runny as expected. Smelled like lotion and dried instantly.
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It looks like it really set overnight in the bottle I have. Its a gel again.
Its the normal FOrmeron carrier I just didnt have enough AMP ultra to adjust the carbomer. Looks like its fine though.
The next batch will have an improved carrier.

Let us know how it goes ;)
 
You guys see the new Zhasni video?
Back training. DEF worth taking a look ;)
[video=youtube;bF_JWGdGO4c]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bF_JWGdGO4c[/video]
 
We will likely keep the Formeron name yes. This is of course as long as I can be certain it is as strong or stronger. Otherwise we will likely not release.
About 10 people have used just the AI portion now and everyone seems to like it so I think we are looking strong for release in maybe 4 weeks.
I just ordered a ton of stuff for the carrier. Waiting on some raws to get going.
 
Day 1- made trip home at lunch to pick up the goodies. Carrier is plenty thick enough so no issues with application. Smell is rather nice once the initial alcohol scent goes away. Dried in about 1min. Slightly gritty but nothing that sticks around after being rubbed in. Applied to upper chest/shoulder area.

Initial notes: after my pm dose (just about an hour ago) within about 30min I got very hot. Not flushed per say but just overall warmth. Sweaty behind the knees and elbows and such.

Next dose will be pwo tomorrow morn (7:30a) and then after work (5-6p).
 
booneman77 said:
Day 1- made trip home at lunch to pick up the goodies. Carrier is plenty thick enough so no issues with application. Smell is rather nice once the initial alcohol scent goes away. Dried in about 1min. Slightly gritty but nothing that sticks around after being rubbed in. Applied to upper chest/shoulder area.

Initial notes: after my pm dose (just about an hour ago) within about 30min I got very hot. Not flushed per say but just overall warmth. Sweaty behind the knees and elbows and such.

Next dose will be pwo tomorrow morn (7:30a) and then after work (5-6p).
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There is a....relatively high dose of a strong fat burner in there. Probably the cause of the heat and sweating. Stoked to see how this progresses.
 
booneman77 said:
Day 1- made trip home at lunch to pick up the goodies. Carrier is plenty thick enough so no issues with application. Smell is rather nice once the initial alcohol scent goes away. Dried in about 1min. Slightly gritty but nothing that sticks around after being rubbed in. Applied to upper chest/shoulder area.

Initial notes: after my pm dose (just about an hour ago) within about 30min I got very hot. Not flushed per say but just overall warmth. Sweaty behind the knees and elbows and such.

Next dose will be pwo tomorrow morn (7:30a) and then after work (5-6p).
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What are you trying out?
 
CJNator said:
What are you trying out?
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The end product will be a solid transdermal ai. Looks like stronger than formestane. Plus 3 very solid fat burners. Each solid by itself.
Together this should be the best lean muscle builder and shredding agent around. Hes testing the ai and 1 of the fat burners.
Guys who tested just the ai said it was awesome. Running real tests next week ;)
 
brundel said:
The end product will be a solid transdermal ai. Looks like stronger than formestane. Plus 3 very solid fat burners. Each solid by itself.
Together this should be the best lean muscle builder and shredding agent around. Hes testing the ai and 1 of the fat burners.
Guys who tested just the ai said it was awesome. Running real tests next week ;)
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Do the 3 fat burners have any kind of stimulant effect when applied topically?
 
Stronger than formestane in its ability to lower estrogen?

Or stronger in its overall ability to contribute to a leaner physique due to the addition of fat burners?
 
max silver said:
Do the 3 fat burners have any kind of stimulant effect when applied topically?
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No. No stimulants added.
I could add caffeine which would augment the fat burning properties of the product, however, transdermals can sometimes take up to 12 hours to fully disperse for lack of better term. This means if you apply at 6pm you might have trouble sleeping if caffeine is in there in a decent amount.
INstead Im gonna go with no stimulants so you can take it before bed. If you want to augment with caffeine its cheap and a cup of coffee will do.
 
Volvo140G said:
Stronger than formestane in its ability to lower estrogen?

Or stronger in its overall ability to contribute to a leaner physique due to the addition of fat burners?
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Stronger as an AI.
honestly I dont know how strong it will be at the end of the day with regards to its contribution to a leaner physique.
I THINK it will be better than formestane.
This is why we test though. By the time we release we will know for sure 2 things.
1. the exact % of inhibition on average.
2. what type of and what level of recomp ability it has.
 
brundel said:
No. No stimulants added.
I could add caffeine which would augment the fat burning properties of the product, however, transdermals can sometimes take up to 12 hours to fully disperse for lack of better term. This means if you apply at 6pm you might have trouble sleeping if caffeine is in there in a decent amount.
INstead Im gonna go with no stimulants so you can take it before bed. If you want to augment with caffeine its cheap and a cup of coffee will do.
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Ursolic acid??
 
brundel said:
No ursolic acid.
Its odd. On paper ursolic looks like it does so many things but when you take it nothing seems to happen.
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Ah fair enough, just kind of how you described the non stim fat burner sounded like it could possibly be Ursolic acid... Have seen alot of positive reviews on the Prototype Nutrition TD version though.
 
so when are we going to see the first bloods for the new SERM? really interested in trying this but would like to actual human bloods. the studies so far I've found are all rats..
 
heavyweight83 said:
so when are we going to see the first bloods for the new SERM? really interested in trying this but would like to actual human bloods. the studies so far I've found are all rats..
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At some point Im sure people will post lab results. I wont post any for legal reasons. Ive seen quite a few.
The decision to use Ellagic acid was based not on studies but our internal testing.
On paper its solid. In real life testing it is also very solid.
 
I am anxious for new Formeron too. I've been anxious since i ran out of old formeron in managing my persistent long term gyno. Slowly but surely formeron has been shrinking the masses so this can't come soon enough!
 
brundel said:
At some point Im sure people will post lab results. I wont post any for legal reasons. Ive seen quite a few.
The decision to use Ellagic acid was based not on studies but our internal testing.
On paper its solid. In real life testing it is also very solid.
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ok, Ive ran a course of 6 weeks ostarine, finished my course and I "feel" shut down, testicles slight atrophy, fatigue etc...so would love to try this SERM...would it help to get my boys back to full size etc..??
 
heavyweight83 said:
ok, Ive ran a course of 6 weeks ostarine, finished my course and I "feel" shut down, testicles slight atrophy, fatigue etc...so would love to try this SERM...would it help to get my boys back to full size etc..??
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Yes sir.
If it were me I would run a proper pct.
Rebirth
An ai
Maybe viron.
 
Brundel - are you a stagger an AI into pct kinda guy, or begin the AI from the start of pct?

Seems to be lots of disagreement round here...
 
BRUNDEL made REBIRTH and the AI to be used with PHs . so, it will definitely work for ostarine.
 
Volvo140G said:
Brundel - are you a stagger an AI into pct kinda guy, or begin the AI from the start of pct?

Seems to be lots of disagreement round here...
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100% start the AI early.
Wet compounds AI on cycle and all the way through PCT.
Dry cycles AI in PCT Started from day one or even before PCT starts.

Low estro = rising test levels. We want test levels to rise. Doesnt make any sense not to utilize it.
And an AI should ALWAYS be a part of PCT. 100% of the time.
A SERM will raise test levels but will NOT lower estrogen. You need an AI to reduce estro.
So if you end your PCT with elevated estro levels test levels will drop again. = PCT fail.
 
Mission1 said:
Brundel, in a nut shell you recommend this stack to recover from something like ostraine?
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For ANY cycle.
Osta is very mild. I would rely on Rebirth, our new TD AI and Viron to recover from a long mixed AAS cycle. Without even a thought.
 
brundel said:
For ANY cycle.
Osta is very mild. I would rely on Rebirth, our new TD AI and Viron to recover from a long mixed AAS cycle. Without even a thought.
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That's the words I needed to hear... I'm prepared then ... I have everything above and then some.
 
brundel said:
For ANY cycle. Osta is very mild. I would rely on Rebirth, our new TD AI and Viron to recover from a long mixed AAS cycle. Without even a thought.
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so glad the SERM is in pill form. I couldn't stand that horrible taste of the liquid Clomid!
 
Sorry to hijack thread, but Brundel do you have any estimations on when the reformulated version of follidrone will be released? Only asking bc I am about to start another follidrone cycle in a couple weeks and would like to try the new version if it is released soon.
 
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