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Who here has in laws that are fat and out of shape?

I’m curious. All the recovering alcoholics, food addicted members that posted in this thread. What people in your lives took it upon themselves to “help” and what exactly did they say to make you realize you had a problem that needed to be fixed? Everyone here is saying “help the guy” but not explaining “how”.

Those writing about being “judgemental”, you don’t know anything about the OP. Aren’t you being judgemental as well?

Also, is it possible that this hit a nerve for those here that are recovering from addiction? Sticking up for a fellow recovering addicted person because it reminds you of your past self?

I’m looking for constructive suggestions because I also have family members that are food and alcohol addicted.

I don't know how to help his family. All I know is my opinions on this. And my opinion of the op is that he's either a troll or a douche. I've been drawn in to too many of his past threads, where he's gone off on homophobic, racist rants or belittled female bikini competitors to ever think differently. Which means I'm being judgmental I suppose. Which I'm totally fine with.
What I don't understand is that it seems like you're defending him, which does surprise me.
 
So addicts consider family members/friends interventions (yes, have to be “forced” as no addict is going to do it on their own accord) as a bad thing? Really? Rather than trying to help the addict you sit back and watch them hit the low point? Isn’t this heartless?
In my experience all the help in the world isn't going to get an addict or alcoholic to stop using. I think it is important to support them and let them know that you are there and try to help but ultimately they have to be ready and willing to do the work themselves in order to get out. Many times people think they are helping because they love someone and what they're actually doing is enabling that person to continue on in their addiction because they never really hit their bottom. Example someone who's lost their ability to properly function in society so you give them a place to live and continue to use because you love them and don't want to see them on the street. Well I could see where it could be viewed as heartless but actually if it gets bad enough for some people they may be willing to change. If they can still be comfortable and drink and use because they have shelter in food the basics they will continue to do so. So another words though it may look heartless putting someone out and telling them they have to go because they chose this and letting them know that if they choose to get help you will be there to help them is the best way in my opinion. The person must choose to receive the help that's being offered.

My life changed when I was ready. Absolutely you need loving people who support you to help.

You asked what does it look like to reach out and help someone it looks like going to them out of caring concern and saying hey man I'm worried about you I see this Behavior and it's self-destructive and you're destroying yourself and your life. I know that you're hurting underneath and I want to help you to get out whatever is really bothering you underneath the alcohol or drugs. Most of the time people who use drugs or alcohol is purely a defense mechanism because they are unable to cope with the hurt and pain that they feel inside. Sometimes those things come from trauma other times people just don't know how to cope with everyday problems so they turn to self-medicating. If you don't understand addiction then you really won't understand the mind of the addict and how things work.

I believe the o p is being judgemental. He has put himself in the position of judge jury and executioner and decided to hold court on his family. Even willing to hand down that sentence to his children. I think if he has any type of heart or compassion he would reach out out of that Karen concern and say hey man I'm worried about you this is what I've seen happen since I've known you you've gone downhill your drinking more medicating and video games Etc. Often times underneath that people are hurting and just don't know how to cope with it so they turn to other things to try and medicate the issue. So you reach out as a friend and say hey man I want to help you deal with whatever may be going on inside. This guy could also very easily offer to take him to the gym and start training him all the while just being a friend and listening and possibly giving good advice to help him change his life. In my experience that's how you reach out to someone and help them.

You don't tear their house down so that you feel like you have the biggest house on the Block. In my opinion that's what someone does who is insecure.
 
So addicts consider family members/friends interventions (yes, have to be “forced” as no addict is going to do it on their own accord) as a bad thing? Really? Rather than trying to help the addict you sit back and watch them hit the low point? Isn’t this heartless?

Sadly yes, an intervention is action but will it lead to a sustainable recovery....imo no.

I’m actually getting a touch emotional reading your comments as it’s reminding me what I put the people who loved me through. I can’t ever change that, I can be the best I can be moving forward but that past pain I caused them is horrible.

Clomid not helping either.....
 
Not exactly defending but understanding his frustration. I’m a person that helps my family and has a BIL that is over 300 lbs and is so unhealthy I wonder if he is going to be here next year. I want to desperately help him and this thread caught my attention as it hits home.
 
Godstrength and Whisky - thank you! You are making me emotional here as it’s so hard to watch someone you love literally dying in front of you. I’m an engineer and as such I think of solutions to problems as my life. I really wish I could reach inside my BIL’s brain and make him see what he’s doing to himself and the people that love him. Life is so very short and addiction makes it shorter. I lost my mother at 45 to alcohol addiction complications. I know what that loss feels like!
 
Godstrength and Whisky - thank you! You are making me emotional here as this so hard to watch someone you love literally dying in front of you. I’m an engineer and as such I think of solutions to problems as my life. I really wish I could reach inside my BIL’s brain and make him see what he’s doing to himself and the people that love him. Life is so very short and addiction makes it shorter. I lost my mother at 45 to alcohol addiction complications. I know what that loss feels like!
I understand your pain. For years and years I put my family and loved ones through the exact same thing. It's not that I didn't want to change its that I didn't know how and felt like I couldn't trust anyone. That's why in my experience the only approach that works is when someone feels that you actually care about them and you're trying to help. Then it gives them the opportunity to accept and receive that help and step out and make the change necessary.

I used heavy drugs for over 15 years to the point where I didn't want to live anymore. Just about everyone had given up on me except my mother. Even my own father look me in my eyes and told me I would never change. But something happened at the right time with the right people around in the right help I was able to overcome my struggles. I now have a bachelor's in human services specializing in addiction and I spend my life trying to help other people come out of the darkness. I have experienced many victories and celebrations and seeing people overcome. I have also experienced a lot of loss. I have seen more people die to addiction than anything else that I've ever experienced in my life. Close friends family members people I was helping. It doesn't ever get any easier for me but I love what I do. It's the one who makes it and changes their life that makes it all worth it.

I know it's not easy brother but if you just pull him aside one-on-one and share with him and extend your willingness to help and do anything you can and just let him know that you're there for him. Don't try to force him to change just be a friend and let him know that when he's ready to get some help you will help him to find that. When he comes to you and ask for help then you look at what Avenues you can get him into to make the lifestyle changes necessary. You really do need someone who is equipped to deal with this type of situation in order to help someone get out in my opinion
 
Godstrength thanks brother. I’m going to take your suggestions.
 
Godstrength thanks brother. I’m going to take your suggestions.
Good man. I type all this as I sit here now with my 16 month old son. This is something that really should not be possible but it is and people can change. Merry Christmas
 
Good man. I type all this as I sit here now with my 16 month old son. This is something that really should not be possible but it is and people can change. Merry Christmas

Oh brother, I’d give anything to go back to the days of holding my son in my arms! He’s 29 and in the Navy now! Enjoy this time with him as it goes fast!! Merry Christmas
 
I understand your pain. For years and years I put my family and loved ones through the exact same thing. It's not that I didn't want to change its that I didn't know how and felt like I couldn't trust anyone. That's why in my experience the only approach that works is when someone feels that you actually care about them and you're trying to help. Then it gives them the opportunity to accept and receive that help and step out and make the change necessary.

I used heavy drugs for over 15 years to the point where I didn't want to live anymore. Just about everyone had given up on me except my mother. Even my own father look me in my eyes and told me I would never change. But something happened at the right time with the right people around in the right help I was able to overcome my struggles. I now have a bachelor's in human services specializing in addiction and I spend my life trying to help other people come out of the darkness. I have experienced many victories and celebrations and seeing people overcome. I have also experienced a lot of loss. I have seen more people die to addiction than anything else that I've ever experienced in my life. Close friends family members people I was helping. It doesn't ever get any easier for me but I love what I do. It's the one who makes it and changes their life that makes it all worth it.

I know it's not easy brother but if you just pull him aside one-on-one and share with him and extend your willingness to help and do anything you can and just let him know that you're there for him. Don't try to force him to change just be a friend and let him know that when he's ready to get some help you will help him to find that. When he comes to you and ask for help then you look at what Avenues you can get him into to make the lifestyle changes necessary. You really do need someone who is equipped to deal with this type of situation in order to help someone get out in my opinion

Absolutely this, food addiction is a tough one to break and although many see if differently to alcohol and drugs the basic principles to address it are the same.

Your BIL needs to want to make the change

He needs to know it’s possible

He needs to know he won’t be on his own doing it.

Deep down I believe the vast majority of obese people know why they are obese and what it’s doing to them, being supportive and giving a channel to openly admit those things is the first step.

Genuinely wish you and your BIL the best, if at anytime you think it will help show what’s possible (I had no surgery or medical stuff - literally just changed what I ate and moved more) please feel free to use my before and after on the nudez bank thread.

Good luck brother
 
Man I'll tell ya, it drives me crazy. I avoid my in laws most of the year but I do have to see them on holidays and special occasions such as birthdays for some members and so forth. I act civil. What a joke.
Anyway anyone here have any fat in laws who make you want to throw up when you look at them?

I'll bite. Get it.?

You're shallow, and you make me sick.
 
I'm never disappointed by an NPC thread.
 
...But something happened at the right time with the right people around in the right help I was able to overcome my struggles. I now have a bachelor's in human services specializing in addiction and I spend my life trying to help other people come out of the darkness. I have experienced many victories and celebrations and seeing people overcome. I have also experienced a lot of loss. I have seen more people die to addiction than anything else that I've ever experienced in my life. Close friends family members people I was helping. It doesn't ever get any easier for me but I love what I do. It's the one who makes it and changes their life that makes it all worth it...

I walked a similar path to you, and remember what my choices did to family and friends. Ironically, it wasn’t any of them that helped me, but a neighbor that I just occasionally said “hi” to. That was 4 years ago. Thanks for stepping up and being part of the solution for others like us. This world needs more people making a difference. More people that care...
 
First of all my brother in law would get his ass kicked since he's such a fat **** and can't move worth ****. I

I have no respect for drug addicts either. You choose to abuse your body and set the wrong examples for your family. As far as I am concerned in that state of mind you are nothing more than a selfish POS. The end. BTW I used to struggle with addictions and I changed on my own. No therapy, no counseling, no rehab. Its all about the mind and wanting it bad enough. Its called mental strength. People who need help to change are mentally weak and I can't respect that. Too selfish to stick with something and be strong enough to quit. Anything from food addiction to drugs, its all the same. A real man quits cold turkey and thats how it goes.
 
First of all my brother in law would get his ass kicked since he's such a fat **** and can't move worth ****. I

I have no respect for drug addicts either. You choose to abuse your body and set the wrong examples for your family. As far as I am concerned in that state of mind you are nothing more than a selfish POS. The end. BTW I used to struggle with addictions and I changed on my own. No therapy, no counseling, no rehab. Its all about the mind and wanting it bad enough. Its called mental strength. People who need help to change are mentally weak and I can't respect that. Too selfish to stick with something and be strong enough to quit. Anything from food addiction to drugs, its all the same. A real man quits cold turkey and thats how it goes.

You would think someone who went through addiction would more understand mental health issues but here we are. My wife is a therapist, and worked at the VA for years helping veterans with substance abuse issues. So none of them are real men because the reached out for help? GTFO with that talk
 
Man I'll tell ya, it drives me crazy. I avoid my in laws most of the year but I do have to see them on holidays and special occasions such as birthdays for some members and so forth. I act civil and do my best to be the better person and treat them nice. But ****, they are so out of shape and not into fitness whatsoever. They are clueless when it comes to proper diet and just don't get it. Some are just lazy AF when it comes to working out. My brother in law's personality drastically changed when he gained weight and became morbidly obese. He used to be much more social and dressed better when he was not fat, but ever since he became fat his sense of fashion is non existent and his personality is like talking to a brick wall. He also is a hermit who just sits on his couch when he is home and drinks cases of beer playing video games. The guy is 40 years old! I could see a 16 year old doing that but a 40 year old? What a joke.

Anyway anyone here have any fat in laws who make you want to throw up when you look at them?
I have plenty of those. Except they aren't in laws. They're directly blood related. They try every Damn fat loss pill, powder, shake and whatever else they see on those info-mercials. Wasting all there money. Yet they will never step foot in a gym. They waste my time asking me this and that about nutrition and training, yet do nothing with the given info. Then they live sedentary lives and want to cry about how they don't understand why they're still overweight. As if they have been trying. Yet I lived with you and watched you not do a damn thing. Yep! I saw that for a good 5 years. They have issues in the mind. Weak minded people I can't be around unless they're willing to help themselves. Training trains the mind. That's what I love even more than the aesthetic benefits. I have no pity, or sorry bone in my body for those who don't help themselves and sit waiting for things to change, and waste my time while they're at it.
 
First of all my brother in law would get his ass kicked since he's such a fat **** and can't move worth ****. I

I have no respect for drug addicts either. You choose to abuse your body and set the wrong examples for your family. As far as I am concerned in that state of mind you are nothing more than a selfish POS. The end. BTW I used to struggle with addictions and I changed on my own. No therapy, no counseling, no rehab. Its all about the mind and wanting it bad enough. Its called mental strength. People who need help to change are mentally weak and I can't respect that. Too selfish to stick with something and be strong enough to quit. Anything from food addiction to drugs, its all the same. A real man quits cold turkey and thats how it goes.
Oh, boy. We all walk different paths. Some paths are rockier than others and sometimes people walk off the path and need help getting back on it. We humans can be stubborn and irrational. We attack those who love us and are trying to help us when we shouldn't. It's not always as simple as you say. I have never been addicted to anything but that doesn't mean I'm better than anyone else. I also haven't dealt with the grief and suffering others have. I just try to be a nice guy and help others. You might have shaken your addiction but you still have demons. That is very apparent.
 
First of all my brother in law would get his ass kicked since he's such a fat **** and can't move worth ****. I

I have no respect for drug addicts either. You choose to abuse your body and set the wrong examples for your family. As far as I am concerned in that state of mind you are nothing more than a selfish POS. The end. BTW I used to struggle with addictions and I changed on my own. No therapy, no counseling, no rehab. Its all about the mind and wanting it bad enough. Its called mental strength. People who need help to change are mentally weak and I can't respect that. Too selfish to stick with something and be strong enough to quit. Anything from food addiction to drugs, its all the same. A real man quits cold turkey and thats how it goes.

There is such a thing as invincible ignorance.

I pray for you
 
I have plenty of those. Except they aren't in laws. They're directly blood related. They try every Damn fat loss pill, powder, shake and whatever else they see on those info-mercials. Wasting all there money. Yet they will never step foot in a gym. They waste my time asking me this and that about nutrition and training, yet do nothing with the given info. Then they live sedentary lives and want to cry about how they don't understand why they're still overweight. As if they have been trying. Yet I lived with you and watched you not do a damn thing. Yep! I saw that for a good 5 years. They have issues in the mind. Weak minded people I can't be around unless they're willing to help themselves. Training trains the mind. That's what I love even more than the aesthetic benefits. I have no pity, or sorry bone in my body for those who don't help themselves and sit waiting for things to change, and waste my time while they're at it.

Well said! Well said :)
 
First of all my brother in law would get his ass kicked since he's such a fat **** and can't move worth ****. I

I have no respect for drug addicts either. You choose to abuse your body and set the wrong examples for your family. As far as I am concerned in that state of mind you are nothing more than a selfish POS. The end. BTW I used to struggle with addictions and I changed on my own. No therapy, no counseling, no rehab. Its all about the mind and wanting it bad enough. Its called mental strength. People who need help to change are mentally weak and I can't respect that. Too selfish to stick with something and be strong enough to quit. Anything from food addiction to drugs, its all the same. A real man quits cold turkey and thats how it goes.

I suspect your just trolling at this point, but I’ll bite. You don’t have to respect them, you don’t have to have sympathy for them; I don’t. But what about a little empathy or grace?

I suspect you grew up knowing what a parents love was. That your self worth was based on small successes, one after another, in school or sports that your parents praised. I suspect you’ve never been to the emergency room for the third time in a month and had to lie to CPS, yet again, how you got hurt. That you’ve never told your mother you love her and her response is; “I know,” “Thanks,” or “Okay.” These are things that no child should ever have to endure, yet it’s all too common. When someone feels like they add no value, when they have no goals or ambitions for what they will accomplish, there’s no reason to change. It’s just easier to get up and do what they did yesterday. Why don’t you come along side him and paint a picture of what his life could be?

Here’s what’s fascinating. Since your brother-in-Law has such a low self image and self worth... his sister... your wife most likely does too. And the only reason she hasn’t left you is because she doesn’t believe she can do better. My hope is you wake up before it’s too late...
 
First of all my brother in law would get his ass kicked since he's such a fat **** and can't move worth ****. I

I have no respect for drug addicts either. You choose to abuse your body and set the wrong examples for your family. As far as I am concerned in that state of mind you are nothing more than a selfish POS. The end. BTW I used to struggle with addictions and I changed on my own. No therapy, no counseling, no rehab. Its all about the mind and wanting it bad enough. Its called mental strength. People who need help to change are mentally weak and I can't respect that. Too selfish to stick with something and be strong enough to quit. Anything from food addiction to drugs, its all the same. A real man quits cold turkey and thats how it goes.

100% troll. You had a few respected members come in and almost take your side in this. Your response to that is to belittle them. SMH.

You were a bully in High School, weren't you.
 
I suspect your just trolling at this point, but I’ll bite. You don’t have to respect them, you don’t have to have sympathy for them; I don’t. But what about a little empathy or grace?

I suspect you grew up knowing what a parents love was. That your self worth was based on small successes, one after another, in school or sports that your parents praised. I suspect you’ve never been to the emergency room for the third time in a month and had to lie to CPS, yet again, how you got hurt. That you’ve never told your mother you love her and her response is; “I know,” “Thanks,” or “Okay.” These are things that no child should ever have to endure, yet it’s all too common. When someone feels like they add no value, when they have no goals or ambitions for what they will accomplish, there’s no reason to change. It’s just easier to get up and do what they did yesterday. Why don’t you come along side him and paint a picture of what his life could be?

Here’s what’s fascinating. Since your brother-in-Law has such a low self image and self worth... his sister... your wife most likely does too. And the only reason she hasn’t left you is because she doesn’t believe she can do better. My hope is you wake up before it’s too late...

Actually my wife made it on her own and is far different than her brother. Its like night and day. If she was like her brother with no self esteem, I wouldn't have married her. Thats just how it is.

She knows her brother is lazy, fat, and unsocial. She says "What can I do about it? All I can do is be positive and try to talk to him but he won't ever listen and just gets mad and storms off. He's a grown man and will change when he wants, but unfortunately he doesn't want to change."

I am the one that is venting on here well because its a message forum that I enjoy being on. I know some of my posts come off as a rant, but do you really think I can vent outside of this board without getting a divorce? LOL She wouldn't put up with the things I say on here.
 
I suspect your just trolling at this point, but I’ll bite. You don’t have to respect them, you don’t have to have sympathy for them; I don’t. But what about a little empathy or grace?

I suspect you grew up knowing what a parents love was. That your self worth was based on small successes, one after another, in school or sports that your parents praised. I suspect you’ve never been to the emergency room for the third time in a month and had to lie to CPS, yet again, how you got hurt. That you’ve never told your mother you love her and her response is; “I know,” “Thanks,” or “Okay.” These are things that no child should ever have to endure, yet it’s all too common. When someone feels like they add no value, when they have no goals or ambitions for what they will accomplish, there’s no reason to change. It’s just easier to get up and do what they did yesterday. Why don’t you come along side him and paint a picture of what his life could be?

Here’s what’s fascinating. Since your brother-in-Law has such a low self image and self worth... his sister... your wife most likely does too. And the only reason she hasn’t left you is because she doesn’t believe she can do better. My hope is you wake up before it’s too late...

Actually my wife made it on her own and is far different than her brother. Its like night and day. If she was like her brother with no self esteem, I wouldn't have married her. Thats just how it is.

She knows her brother is lazy, fat, and unsocial. She says "What can I do about it? All I can do is be positive and try to talk to him but he won't ever listen and just gets mad and storms off. He's a grown man and will change when he wants, but unfortunately he doesn't want to change."

He's the guy that told my wife who is fit and started going to the gym that she was getting too skinny! It almost made her cry in frustration sometimes. Even though everyone at the gym told her how great she looked, her own brother would make comments about how she looked sick and so forth. While he sits on his fat ass drinking cases of beer every night and wouldn't step foot in a gym with a gun to his head. I think alot of my venting has to do with the fact that he's just rude on top of his obesity.

I am the one that is venting on here well because its a message forum that I enjoy being on. I know some of my posts come off as a rant, but do you really think I can vent outside of this board without getting a divorce? LOL She wouldn't put up with the things I say on here.
 
100% troll. You had a few respected members come in and almost take your side in this. Your response to that is to belittle them. SMH.

You were a bully in High School, weren't you.

Honestly reading the response I think the OP was bullied in school and felt like mummy and daddy never loved him.

I think he lashes out on Internet forums as he is missing something in his life. Certainly doesn’t have any ‘true’ friends or he would understand the value of them.

The talk about how a real man doesn’t need help is suggestive of closet homosexuality. That would actually explain a lot, throws himself into the gym (to make himself look all manly) and acts like he does due to suppressed homosexual feelings.

Being a real man means being able to ask for help, being able to cry (and not just on clomid), being there for his family emotionally, showing empathy for others.

Admitting you have problems is true mental toughness.

Not being able to reach out for help is a huge sign of mental weakness CompeteNPC
 
Actually my wife made it on her own and is far different than her brother. Its like night and day. If she was like her brother with no self esteem, I wouldn't have married her. Thats just how it is.

She knows her brother is lazy, fat, and unsocial. She says "What can I do about it? All I can do is be positive and try to talk to him but he won't ever listen and just gets mad and storms off. He's a grown man and will change when he wants, but unfortunately he doesn't want to change."

I am the one that is venting on here well because its a message forum that I enjoy being on. I know some of my posts come off as a rant, but do you really think I can vent outside of this board without getting a divorce? LOL She wouldn't put up with the things I say on here.
At least that last statement shows that you can see your being an ass hole.
 
100% agree....
like whisky I'm a recovering alcoholic.

for some people food is an addiction, I have empathy/sympathy for those struggling with addictions.....they just replace my vodka with a plate of food-but for the grace of GOD there go i.

btw Whiskey congrats on your 5 years!!!!
thebigt and Whisky just to give y'all an update. Since my last fall from grace. It has been a week and a have I haven't touched anything. Woke up with a hangover one morning, and it just clicked. This aint for me no more. I am fighting to stay this way, and have blown my wifes mine when I didnt run to the store for a drink
 
thebigt and Whisky just to give y'all an update. Since my last fall from grace. It has been a week and a have I haven't touched anything. Woke up with a hangover one morning, and it just clicked. This aint for me no more. I am fighting to stay this way, and have blown my wifes mine when I didnt run to the store for a drink

Awesome brother. Take one day at a time and enjoy seeing clearly. Reach out if you ever need to
 
thebigt and Whisky just to give y'all an update. Since my last fall from grace. It has been a week and a have I haven't touched anything. Woke up with a hangover one morning, and it just clicked. This aint for me no more. I am fighting to stay this way, and have blown my wifes mine when I didnt run to the store for a drink

Good for you bro!! I’m proud of everyone who can honestly say that.
Nice job man. Keep it up!

Btw I’m approaching my 3rd month of no alcohol & that’s a big thing for me to.
 
Good for you bro!! I’m proud of everyone who can honestly say that.
Nice job man. Keep it up!

Btw I’m approaching my 3rd month of no alcohol & that’s a big thing for me to.
Awesome job brother. Stay strong, I know I will this time. I just feel so much better.
 
Reminds me of the "11" female you see and approach to talk to. As soon as she shares whats on her minds the ugly pours right out of her face and you wouldnt put your duck in her but to punished her for being a such an ugly c**t.

He's the male c**t.
 
thebigt and Whisky just to give y'all an update. Since my last fall from grace. It has been a week and a have I haven't touched anything. Woke up with a hangover one morning, and it just clicked. This aint for me no more. I am fighting to stay this way, and have blown my wifes mine when I didnt run to the store for a drink

Good for you bro!! I’m proud of everyone who can honestly say that.
Nice job man. Keep it up!

Btw I’m approaching my 3rd month of no alcohol & that’s a big thing for me to.

You guys are better than me. Fckn holidays are always the worst time
 
thebigt and Whisky just to give y'all an update. Since my last fall from grace. It has been a week and a have I haven't touched anything. Woke up with a hangover one morning, and it just clicked. This aint for me no more. I am fighting to stay this way, and have blown my wifes mine when I didnt run to the store for a drink

DemntedCowboy one day you wake up and realize you are sick and tired of being sick and tired...don't be discouraged by relapses, I had many before I got it right!!!

a week is a nice start, please keep us updated!!!
 
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Good for you bro!! I’m proud of everyone who can honestly say that.
Nice job man. Keep it up!

Btw I’m approaching my 3rd month of no alcohol & that’s a big thing for me to.

congrats!!!!
 
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nice...I gave you some reps, looks like you need to get that post count up some too, lol......on the serious side, I know you are a genuine good guy and appreciate the support you are always willing to give---you have my respect!!!
 
DemntedCowboy one day you wake up and realize you are sick and tired of being sick and tired...don't be discouraged by relapses, I had many before I got it right!!!

a week is a nice start, please keep us updated!!!
I think I have hit that level. I really think I'm ready this time. Hopefully no more set backs for this guy.
 
nice...I gave you some reps, looks like you need to get that post count up some too, lol......on the serious side, I know you are a genuine good guy and appreciate the support you are always willing to give---you have my respect!!!
Thank you Sir!
 
The curse of disturbingly obese In-laws. Lol
Funny thread here.
 
We have tried to lend him advice about going to the doctor for his severe sleep apnea. He refuses. He also is about 340 pounds and refuses to wear any size larger than xl. It’s very frustrating how much in denial he is of his weight problem.
 
We have tried to lend him advice about going to the doctor for his severe sleep apnea. He refuses. He also is about 340 pounds and refuses to wear any size larger than xl. It’s very frustrating how much in denial he is of his weight problem.

denial is part of the addiction process...how many alcoholics/drug addicts do you think are in denial?
 
Some people also learn to play the poor me card after they gain weight and learn to like that feeling. So they refuse to change. I believe my BIL falls in this category as well.

It's possible that's the case, but them learning to like that feeling is unintentional.
Given what you've said about him I get the feeling he doesn't enjoy most of his social interactions, this is a common reason why people get hooked on video games. His family may still love him but few strangers would strike up a conversation with him or give him a desirable look. If talking to him is 'like talking to a wall', most of his conversations are likely very bland and he probably doesn't enjoy them either. Hence, he doesn't have much motivation to chat with people. The people who don't show him that they feel sorry for him are most likely outright disgusted by him. Were he not family to you, perhaps you wouldn't disguise your disgust. He's come to like the feeling because the alternative attitudes people tend to hold towards him are much worse in his eyes.

As for what you can do. I believe you can't make an addict change, but you can help the addict towards wanting to change. Give him something to look forwards to, a sort of prize for if he successfully changes. He or may not care right now, people can convince themselves that they should be happy with their lives. But if he is down and depressed, and he genuinely thinks that his weight and self-image are feeding the problem, then reminding him that things needn't be the way they are could be his salvation. The others are right, being too forceful can backfire. Suggest to him the possibilities and plant the seed of an idea. Then stand by him and offer your support. The seed may not grow now, but one day it might. From my experience, if what you propose is logical and reasonable, the person will eventually see reason.
 
Some people also learn to play the poor me card after they gain weight and learn to like that feeling. So they refuse to change. I believe my BIL falls in this category as well.

It's possible that's the case, but them learning to like that feeling is unintentional.
Given what you've said about him I get the feeling he doesn't enjoy most of his social interactions, this is a common reason why people get hooked on video games. His family may still love him but few strangers would strike up a conversation with him or give him a desirable look. If talking to him is 'like talking to a wall', most of his conversations are likely very bland and he probably doesn't enjoy them either. Hence, he doesn't have much motivation to chat with people. The people who don't show him that they feel sorry for him are most likely outright disgusted by him. Were he not family to you, perhaps you wouldn't disguise your disgust. He's come to like the feeling because the alternative attitudes people tend to hold towards him are much worse in his eyes.

As for what you can do. I believe you can't make an addict change, but you can help the addict towards wanting to change. Give him something to look forwards to, a sort of prize for if he successfully changes. He or may not care right now, people can convince themselves that they should be happy with their lives. But if he is down and depressed, and he genuinely thinks that his weight and self-image are feeding the problem, then reminding him that things needn't be the way they are could be his salvation. The others are right, being too forceful can backfire. Suggest to him the possibilities and plant the seed of an idea. Then stand by him and offer your support. The seed may not grow now, but one day it might. From my experience, if what you propose is logical and reasonable, the person will eventually see reason.
 
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