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Whisky’s test e, tbol, liquidien and winny cycle log

Day 89

Lighter training day and family stuff. Nailed some arms and rear delt/traps pump stuff. Ok session but nothing special.

Day 90

Actually got round to weighing myself this morning, down at 125 (so about 5lbs off). Calories have been down while I had that cold and I’m guessing a lot of that is glycogen with not training as much. Then I see the mirror and I’m starting to look like I have abs again so might be the winny starting to pull some water off.

Made a real effort to get calories back up to recomp levels today.

Training was one of those annoying sessions where in theory it should have been great (didn’t run this morning, cold has gone, felt decent etc) but when it came to it the big lifts just weren’t there. Technique let me down on squats, missed 380 for 5 by a country mile. Just a bad line on the second rep, slightly tipped, nothing out of the hole and just muscled it up. That took a lot out of me so when the next rep was off as well I just dumped it. Just did some accessory stuff at 5 sets of 10 for legs to try and get something from the session but chalking it up as one of those days.

Keeping on trucking fellas
 
Day 91 - boring day really. Hit some push press and arms. Sleep has been off more than on recently so whilst I don’t feel bad per se I don’t like I’m capable of fighting a bear whilst fcuking the missus (like I did a few weeks back). Session was ok but nothing great.

Day 92

Generally felt better today, more lively and thinking the cold took more out of me than I thought. Without question a massive benefit of these longer cycles is not being as bothered by a week where you don’t feel you’ve progressed.

From a sides perspective there really isn’t anything, BP is food, piss is near clear, even my joints feel generally on. Remembering what Chados said about weeks 4-6 really being the winny time to shine otherwise I’d question how legit it was lol (although whilst not bothering me at all my joints do definitely ache slightly whereas before winny they felt like they were coated in baby oil).

Training was decent ish. Trained with a mate, always helps, deadlifts aiming for a set of 5 at 484. Made three before failing - still a pr but tbh I expected at least 4 to be there.

However then decided to pull a heavy single for fun. Made 528 which was my first time over 400lbs and a 33lb pr. Knowing that some of what I lost last week is still to come back I’m hopeful of where that goes.

Then hit some crazy tri sets for legs, lactic burn all over, destroyed the wheels today. Fun though

Came home and ate all the protein
 
I hit 6 plates and then got busy and then got sick and havent deadlifted in a month lol first deadlift day back tomorrow
 
Whisky said:
Day 91 - boring day really. Hit some push press and arms. Sleep has been off more than on recently so whilst I don’t feel bad per se I don’t like I’m capable of fighting a bear whilst fcuking the missus (like I did a few weeks back). Session was ok but nothing great.

Day 92

Generally felt better today, more lively and thinking the cold took more out of me than I thought. Without question a massive benefit of these longer cycles is not being as bothered by a week where you don’t feel you’ve progressed.

From a sides perspective there really isn’t anything, BP is food, piss is near clear, even my joints feel generally on. Remembering what Chados said about weeks 4-6 really being the winny time to shine otherwise I’d question how legit it was lol (although whilst not bothering me at all my joints do definitely ache slightly whereas before winny they felt like they were coated in baby oil).

Training was decent ish. Trained with a mate, always helps, deadlifts aiming for a set of 5 at 484. Made three before failing - still a pr but tbh I expected at least 4 to be there.

However then decided to pull a heavy single for fun. Made 528 which was my first time over 400lbs and a 33lb pr. Knowing that some of what I lost last week is still to come back I’m hopeful of where that goes.

Then hit some crazy tri sets for legs, lactic burn all over, destroyed the wheels today. Fun though

Came home and ate all the protein
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Praying for you buddy. Normally it takes a few weeks to be noticible yes, I think 4-6 is the time it shines
 
Whisky said:
Day 91 - boring day really. Hit some push press and arms. Sleep has been off more than on recently so whilst I don’t feel bad per se I don’t like I’m capable of fighting a bear whilst fcuking the missus (like I did a few weeks back). Session was ok but nothing great.

Day 92

Generally felt better today, more lively and thinking the cold took more out of me than I thought. Without question a massive benefit of these longer cycles is not being as bothered by a week where you don’t feel you’ve progressed.

From a sides perspective there really isn’t anything, BP is food, piss is near clear, even my joints feel generally on. Remembering what Chados said about weeks 4-6 really being the winny time to shine otherwise I’d question how legit it was lol (although whilst not bothering me at all my joints do definitely ache slightly whereas before winny they felt like they were coated in baby oil).

Training was decent ish. Trained with a mate, always helps, deadlifts aiming for a set of 5 at 484. Made three before failing - still a pr but tbh I expected at least 4 to be there.

However then decided to pull a heavy single for fun. Made 528 which was my first time over 400lbs and a 33lb pr. Knowing that some of what I lost last week is still to come back I’m hopeful of where that goes.

Then hit some crazy tri sets for legs, lactic burn all over, destroyed the wheels today. Fun though

Came home and ate all the protein
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Nice work maaate!
 
Hyde said:
Duh boi

528=240kg

484=220kg

He’s not picking weird numbers to hit; he’s just converting them all for you.
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I knew that i was just making sure i understood what you were saying lol. Although i didnt realize 528=240 or 484=220. Ive never used kg plates so i have break out the calculator every time i need a conversion lol i was pretty surprised that 250=550 though its usually a weird number
 
christ83189 said:
I knew that i was just making sure i understood what you were saying lol. Although i didnt realize 528=240 or 484=220. Ive never used kg plates so i have break out the calculator every time i need a conversion lol i was pretty surprised that 250=550 though its usually a weird number
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Haha, yeah it’s one of the few that converts cleanly. And yeah Hyde 100% I’m wanting that 250kg

It’s a ball ache converting but going with the majority that I know are in lbs - it’s why I like benny’s log, all in kg’s so easier for me to understand.

That said my 2.2 times table is nailed down after a couple of logs lol
 
christ83189 said:
I knew that i was just making sure i understood what you were saying lol. Although i didnt realize 528=240 or 484=220. Ive never used kg plates so i have break out the calculator every time i need a conversion lol i was pretty surprised that 250=550 though its usually a weird number
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Double it then add a tenth of that to get the value. That’s what I do. You get used to seeing certain numbers too.

250x2=500
500/10=50
500+50=550

10kg is 22lbs basically.

Europeans, just like us, fetishize round numbers, so things like a 100kg Press (220), 150 bench (330), 200 squat (440), 250 dead (550) are common strength goals.
 
Day 93 - planned rest day, 5k run in the morning. Lots of driving

Day 94

8 hours in the car was a pain today. Kills me in terms of general moving about but also makes getting my calories in a challenge (I’ve been so busy lately my food prep is way down from my normal standards).

To be honest I’ve been down on calories all week. Partly because when I don’t have a good food choice I won’t just eat crap so I end up eating nothing. Then I’ve been too tired when getting home to sit and plough through food like I would normally.

I’m my head I was thinking I’d get away with it on gear but I’ve definitively plateaued again on strength. Haven’t lost anything (made the same squats and bench tonight as I did 2-3 weeks ago) but it’s not going up. All that said I definitely look leaner, abs more visible throughout the day.

Few things I’m learning as I go on this cycle. One is that I need to consider my programming a lot more, just overloading the compounds is great but I think I need to look and varying the rep ranges and accessory work to get continued growth. I’m thinking my next bulk cycle will be a more traditional bro split.

But it’s interesting to see how even with juice the body can’t just keep growing throughout 16 weeks.

However I still feel good and the winny should be about to get good so I’ll re focus for the last few weeks and hopefully get a bit more from it.
 
People usually can’t appreciate what steroids are (and aren’t) until they use. On one hand, they’re magic - you can just take them and get stronger. On the other hand, they’re definitely not magic. You can’t just take them and squat a grand, or look like an IFBB Pro.

Genetics you can ignore because you have no control, but things like sleep, food, and training are all huge influencers in results - the drugs facilitate their use to allow desired results. But you still have to do the work, and be smart with training, and the calories/energy still must be supplied - it takes a lot of effort.
 
Hyde said:
People usually can’t appreciate what steroids are (and aren’t) until they use. On one hand, they’re magic - you can just take them and get stronger. On the other hand, they’re definitely not magic. You can’t just take them and squat a grand, or look like an IFBB Pro.

Genetics you can ignore because you have no control, but things like sleep, food, and training are all huge influencers in results - the drugs facilitate their use to allow desired results. But you still have to do the work, and be smart with training, and the calories/energy still must be supplied - it takes a lot of effort.
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No question this is the truth. My respect for the proper big and ripped guys has gone up since I started aas. The level of dedication and mental toughness to push as hard and for as long as they do to get there is immense. Yeah great genetics give them the potential but they still have to do the work to realise it
 
Whisky said:
No question this is the truth. My respect for the proper big and ripped guys has gone up since I started aas. The level of dedication and mental toughness to push as hard and for as long as they do to get there is immense. Yeah great genetics give them the potential but they still have to do the work to realise it
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It takes so much, it would only ever be worth it if you overall find the process satisfying.

“Errybody wanna be a bodybuilda, but don’t nobody wanna lift these heavy-ass weights!”
 
Whisky said:
Day 93 - planned rest day, 5k run in the morning. Lots of driving

Day 94

8 hours in the car was a pain today. Kills me in terms of general moving about but also makes getting my calories in a challenge (I’ve been so busy lately my food prep is way down from my normal standards).

To be honest I’ve been down on calories all week. Partly because when I don’t have a good food choice I won’t just eat crap so I end up eating nothing. Then I’ve been too tired when getting home to sit and plough through food like I would normally.

I’m my head I was thinking I’d get away with it on gear but I’ve definitively plateaued again on strength. Haven’t lost anything (made the same squats and bench tonight as I did 2-3 weeks ago) but it’s not going up. All that said I definitely look leaner, abs more visible throughout the day.

Few things I’m learning as I go on this cycle. One is that I need to consider my programming a lot more, just overloading the compounds is great but I think I need to look and varying the rep ranges and accessory work to get continued growth. I’m thinking my next bulk cycle will be a more traditional bro split.

But it’s interesting to see how even with juice the body can’t just keep growing throughout 16 weeks.

However I still feel good and the winny should be about to get good so I’ll re focus for the last few weeks and hopefully get a bit more from it.
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You will keep growing and getting stronger. The best thing about plateuing on cycle is that you know it's a week away from getting smashed.
 
Hyde said:
It takes so much, it would only ever be worth it if you overall find the process satisfying.

“Errybody wanna be a bodybuilda, but don’t nobody wanna lift these heavy-ass weights!”
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Watched a video of him squatting 800lbs for a double earlier. Love the way he gets psyched for a lift lol
 
Day 95

Solid enough day, main thing was being at home for work and eating properly.

Ran this morning and the spent an hour supersetting chest and back. Nothing extreme but felt decent.

Feel like I’m setting up for a good last 2 weeks!
 
Whisky said:
Day 95

Solid enough day, main thing was being at home for work and eating properly.

Ran this morning and the spent an hour supersetting chest and back. Nothing extreme but felt decent.

Feel like I’m setting up for a good last 2 weeks!
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I run every day too....To the bathroom
 
Whisky said:
Watched a video of him squatting 800lbs for a double earlier. Love the way he gets psyched for a lift lol
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He may seem silly, but that intensity and positive intention is what allowed him to accomplish the lifts he did.

All those funny phrases, Light weight baby, Ain’t nuttin’ but a peanut, Yeah buddy, were positive affirmations - try them some time, and really believe them when you say it out loud. Guarantee it puts your head in the right place to succeed before a big lift.
 
Hyde said:
He may seem silly, but that intensity and positive intention is what allowed him to accomplish the lifts he did.

All those funny phrases, Light weight baby, Ain’t nuttin’ but a peanut, Yeah buddy, were positive affirmations - try them some time, and really believe them when you say it out loud. Guarantee it puts your head in the right place to succeed before a big lift.
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I wasnt laughing at the way he does it but it’s hard not to smile at the stuff he comes out with. But for sure it’s a great way to get in the right head space. I learnt a while back that I have to see myself making the lift otherwise I don’t. Generally I’m silent and focused pre lift, talk to myself a bit and then during reps I’ll be screaming a bit........
 
Hyde said:
People usually can’t appreciate what steroids are (and aren’t) until they use. On one hand, they’re magic - you can just take them and get stronger. On the other hand, they’re definitely not magic. You can’t just take them and squat a grand, or look like an IFBB Pro.

Genetics you can ignore because you have no control, but things like sleep, food, and training are all huge influencers in results - the drugs facilitate their use to allow desired results. But you still have to do the work, and be smart with training, and the calories/energy still must be supplied - it takes a lot of effort.
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You mean i cant take steroids and sit on the couch and eat all the ice cream and donuts i want and look like a greek god? Thats not what the guy at the gym told me!
 
christ83189 said:
You mean i cant take steroids and sit on the couch and eat all the ice cream and donuts i want and look like a greek god? Thats not what the guy at the gym told me!
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Contrary to popular belief

You could look like Bacchus I suppose, the fat Greek god of wine and partying! Now Hercules, you better get to work.
 
Day 96 - light ish day. Some push press and arms but had a lot on so only 45 mins training

Day 97

Damn you USA and your famin time difference, had to set an alarm for 4.30am to get up and see Fury beat Wilder (honestly not a fury fan but he won that fight imo. Has to be said that on that showing wilder would get smashed by AJ who has way more punch power than Fury). Anyway, meant I was short on sleep but felt ok.

Weight is steady at 225. Definitely a bit leaner but that cold and a poor decision to drop Cals fo maintenance have taken some off me.

Strength actually down in the gym on back squat. Missed the second rep at 380 and was pissed off af that point. Honestly didn’t think getting weaker was possible on cycle so learning all the time.

I should have committed to either a bulk or a recomp, trying to do both was stupid (or losing my nerve when I lost my abs to be precise).

Frustrating but I’ve got the last 2 weeks of winny now so just going to keep pushing.

Will drop the weight on squats and increase reps to get some more TUT in. Then try to hit a big pr in two weeks.

Bench was a touch better with a double at 264, my previous one rep max.

Hope you all had a good weekend
 
Day 98

Damn this is frustrating. Strength down on deadlifts missing a triple at 484, which I pulled last week.

There’s a few things at play here I think. Mentally I’m annoyed with myself and that’s affecting the quality of training. For example, only went heavy on dead’s today after a poor back squat session yesterday. Now I know, and would advise clients, to take rest and eat more before going heavy again and yet I don’t do it myself. Because I know that technically dead’s are my strongest lift I feel it’s a true test of where strength is at but deep down I know for whatever reason it’s lower than it was 2-3 weeks ago. Annoyed I didn’t test my maxes then really but thought I’d get over that cold and surge again.

Honestly expected a touch more from the winny. Got it the same place as the test which I know is legit so not doubting it but hopefully it starts to give me something extra over the next two weeks.

Feel fine in myself and still feel good on the lower numbers (which previously would have been heavy). For example 5 at 440 is no issue, feels like 6-8 in the tank there easy. Same with squats yesterday, 330 for 5 isn’t near maximal and easy 8 reps or more there.

Just the top end strength seems to have really gone.

It’s all learning for me though, will definitely plan cycles differently in the way I train. Next autumn/winter i’ll commit to a bulk for sure. I think tren with low test and high eq might be involved.

One thing I do feel is that although the top end strength isn’t where I want if I can maintain what feels ok for 6-8 at the moment past pct then it will still be a big improvement.

So yes, frustrating days but can learn from them

Hoping everyone else is killing it
 
Steroids accelerate tissue repair, provided the raws are available to do so. Thus training response is greater and catabolism significantly less. And let you store more glycogen and creatine in the muscle.

You squat heavy and damage all of the muscles of the lower body, then pulled the next day heavy. You didn’t give them time to rebuild you, you didn’t have the time to eat enough for the repairs to take place, and because you didn’t get enough food the glycogen and creatine stores aren’t loaded up - you couldn’t possibly have been at full strength only 24 hours later.

I respect you a lot & am saying this because I want to see you reach your goals!
 
Whisky said:
Day 98

Damn this is frustrating. Strength down on deadlifts missing a triple at 484, which I pulled last week.

There’s a few things at play here I think. Mentally I’m annoyed with myself and that’s affecting the quality of training. For example, only went heavy on dead’s today after a poor back squat session yesterday. Now I know, and would advise clients, to take rest and eat more before going heavy again and yet I don’t do it myself. Because I know that technically dead’s are my strongest lift I feel it’s a true test of where strength is at but deep down I know for whatever reason it’s lower than it was 2-3 weeks ago. Annoyed I didn’t test my maxes then really but thought I’d get over that cold and surge again.

Honestly expected a touch more from the winny. Got it the same place as the test which I know is legit so not doubting it but hopefully it starts to give me something extra over the next two weeks.

Feel fine in myself and still feel good on the lower numbers (which previously would have been heavy). For example 5 at 440 is no issue, feels like 6-8 in the tank there easy. Same with squats yesterday, 330 for 5 isn’t near maximal and easy 8 reps or more there.

Just the top end strength seems to have really gone.

It’s all learning for me though, will definitely plan cycles differently in the way I train. Next autumn/winter i’ll commit to a bulk for sure. I think tren with low test and high eq might be involved.

One thing I do feel is that although the top end strength isn’t where I want if I can maintain what feels ok for 6-8 at the moment past pct then it will still be a big improvement.

So yes, frustrating days but can learn from them

Hoping everyone else is killing it
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Theres alot of things at flux in this game. You need alot of factors to come together for optimal strength. I know me personally i hit 375 on bench recently and today 335 felt damn near maximal. Pulled 585 recently and 545 felt freaking heavy as fck the other day. Ive got other things at play that are affecting ym strength too though. Squats still felt great this week though hit 405 for an easy double so thats good lol keep at it
 
Hyde said:
Steroids accelerate tissue repair, provided the raws are available to do so. Thus training response is greater and catabolism significantly less. And let you store more glycogen and creatine in the muscle.

You squat heavy and damage all of the muscles of the lower body, then pulled the next day heavy. You didn’t give them time to rebuild you, you didn’t have the time to eat enough for the repairs to take place, and because you didn’t get enough food the glycogen and creatine stores aren’t loaded up - you couldn’t possibly have been at full strength only 24 hours later.

I respect you a lot & am saying this because I want to see you reach your goals!
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Appreciate it bro, needed to be told it
 
When you hit a PR it's not really a new max, its supercompensation. Your brain will assign additional operator modules to the movement pattern for which you are loading and operate muscle tissue unsustainably in response to weekly incremental increases in load. Deloading has two purposes:
1.) To allow muscle tissue to repair properly and also adapt after over-utilisation
2.) To control habituation - if you overutilise for too long 'habituation' occurs, which I think of as a neuroadaptive inhibitory response to protect the body from the mind.

Long story short, usually the best week post deload is week 2 (this can cost you further load progressions though) or week 3 but never week 1 because you CNS is deconditioned. So if you want to hit your numbers, better off programming for sub max loads the first 2 weeks.
 
BennyMagoo79 said:
When you hit a PR it's not really a new max, its supercompensation. Your brain will assign additional operator modules to the movement pattern for which you are loading and operate muscle tissue unsustainably in response to weekly incremental increases in load. Deloading has two purposes:
1.) To allow muscle tissue to repair properly and also adapt after over-utilisation
2.) To control habituation - if you overutilise for too long 'habituation' occurs, which I think of as a neuroadaptive inhibitory response to protect the body from the mind.

Long story short, usually the best week post deload is week 2 (this can cost you further load progressions though) or week 3 but never week 1 because you CNS is deconditioned. So if you want to hit your numbers, better off programming for sub max loads the first 2 weeks.
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There’s a reason my Cube rotation on deadlift goes:

Wk 1 - Dynamic effort
Wk 2 - Repetition effort
Wk 3 - Heavy effort

and NOT heavy effort as week 2. There’s about a 15% ramping in weight on the bar week to week, and it gives the body time for adaptations to occur as well as managing fatigue concurrently.

This is by no means the only way, but just further illustrating your point.
 
Hyde said:
There’s a reason my Cube rotation on deadlift goes:

Wk 1 - Dynamic effort
Wk 2 - Repetition effort
Wk 3 - Heavy effort

and NOT heavy effort as week 2. There’s about a 15% ramping in weight on the bar week to week, and it gives the body time for adaptations to occur as well as managing fatigue concurrently.

This is by no means the only way, but just further illustrating your point.
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Agreed. 72 hrs between different methods doesn’t work for me in terms of deadlift. Other lifts are fine with 72 hrs but I need at least a week between when it comes to dead efforts.
 
Whisky said:
Day 98

Damn this is frustrating. Strength down on deadlifts missing a triple at 484, which I pulled last week.

There’s a few things at play here I think. Mentally I’m annoyed with myself and that’s affecting the quality of training. For example, only went heavy on dead’s today after a poor back squat session yesterday. Now I know, and would advise clients, to take rest and eat more before going heavy again and yet I don’t do it myself. Because I know that technically dead’s are my strongest lift I feel it’s a true test of where strength is at but deep down I know for whatever reason it’s lower than it was 2-3 weeks ago. Annoyed I didn’t test my maxes then really but thought I’d get over that cold and surge again.

Honestly expected a touch more from the winny. Got it the same place as the test which I know is legit so not doubting it but hopefully it starts to give me something extra over the next two weeks.

Feel fine in myself and still feel good on the lower numbers (which previously would have been heavy). For example 5 at 440 is no issue, feels like 6-8 in the tank there easy. Same with squats yesterday, 330 for 5 isn’t near maximal and easy 8 reps or more there.

Just the top end strength seems to have really gone.

It’s all learning for me though, will definitely plan cycles differently in the way I train. Next autumn/winter i’ll commit to a bulk for sure. I think tren with low test and high eq might be involved.

One thing I do feel is that although the top end strength isn’t where I want if I can maintain what feels ok for 6-8 at the moment past pct then it will still be a big improvement.

So yes, frustrating days but can learn from them

Hoping everyone else is killing it
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How much are you running winstrol at? It's definitely possible to notice more the last two weeks. Last cycle I ran it at 30mg and I am at the point where it's almost too little but after 4 weeks I started notice much more. I think most people run it at 50mg. How did you like liquiden? I found that to be a great addition to a cycle.
 
Chados said:
How much are you running winstrol at? It's definitely possible to notice more the last two weeks. Last cycle I ran it at 30mg and I am at the point where it's almost too little but after 4 weeks I started notice much more. I think most people run it at 50mg. How did you like liquiden? I found that to be a great addition to a cycle.
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Hey bro, running the winny at 50ed. I’m lighter and leaner than pre winny for sure but still don’t look pre cycle lean.

I actually really liked the liquidien. I have a feeling 19nors might be a way to go for me (planning deca for next year I think). I was definitely at my strongest 8-9 weeks into the cycle at the point I finished the liquidien.

That said (aside from the water retention) I’ve had virtually no sides from anything which I take as a positive.

I’m just going to apply what I’m learning of this cycle to next year. 300mg test with 600eq I see as possibly a good slow bulking cycle for me.
 
Day 99 - rest day and forced a load of good food down

Day 100

Work actually made this a rest day and deep down I feel like that’s a good idea as well. Making sure to eat and try to reset.

A crazy work schedule has meant I’ve trained less over the last 2 months than I ever normally would (on or off cycle), trying to objectively work out the impact of that. Certainly in the past I’ve responded better to higher frequency training but I also know these things can change as we age so it’s been interesting.

Feeling decent in myself and my work starts to settle down next week for Xmas (and I basically stop working so hopefully can finish this strong.

Can give it my all anyway

Hopefully more exciting updates soon
 
Whisky said:
Hey bro, running the winny at 50ed. I’m lighter and leaner than pre winny for sure but still don’t look pre cycle lean.

I actually really liked the liquidien. I have a feeling 19nors might be a way to go for me (planning deca for next year I think). I was definitely at my strongest 8-9 weeks into the cycle at the point I finished the liquidien.

That said (aside from the water retention) I’ve had virtually no sides from anything which I take as a positive.

I’m just going to apply what I’m learning of this cycle to next year. 300mg test with 600eq I see as possibly a good slow bulking cycle for me.
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Alright. Maybe the bloat before had been hindering a little too. Hopefully these next weeks will be good, I wouldn't count it out just yet.
 
Whisky said:
Day 99 - rest day and forced a load of good food down

Day 100

Work actually made this a rest day and deep down I feel like that’s a good idea as well. Making sure to eat and try to reset.

A crazy work schedule has meant I’ve trained less over the last 2 months than I ever normally would (on or off cycle), trying to objectively work out the impact of that. Certainly in the past I’ve responded better to higher frequency training but I also know these things can change as we age so it’s been interesting.

Feeling decent in myself and my work starts to settle down next week for Xmas (and I basically stop working so hopefully can finish this strong.

Can give it my all anyway

Hopefully more exciting updates soon
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Response to high frequency training is also load dependant, and you have been moving some serious loads lately!
 
Ok, sorry I’m way behind on updates but here we go

Day 101 - another forced day off (genuine work issues)

Day 102 - back to it today - took the days off plus some thoughts from benny above and just tried to prime the cns rather than go heavy. Felt decent moving some moderate weight.

Day 103 - feel great in myself, mentally reset. Did chest and back

Day 104 - some light speed deads and arms/abs - I’m feeling alright here although did run out of test one jab early so this was my last pin of the cycle (felt quite sad)

Day 105 - still running the winny (till end of the week), I’m away this weekend so either had to test lifts this week or next, with the test running out slightly early I decided to slam down some hydrazine and go for back squat.

Felt really decent and threw up a solid rep at 407 - first time over 400lbs and made up.

Feeling excited for dead’s on Wednesday now as feel like strength is steaming back

Let’s fcuking have this
 
Whisky said:
Ok, sorry I’m way behind on updates but here we go

Day 101 - another forced day off (genuine work issues)

Day 102 - back to it today - took the days off plus some thoughts from benny above and just tried to prime the cns rather than go heavy. Felt decent moving some moderate weight.

Day 103 - feel great in myself, mentally reset. Did chest and back

Day 104 - some light speed deads and arms/abs - I’m feeling alright here although did run out of test one jab early so this was my last pin of the cycle (felt quite sad)

Day 105 - still running the winny (till end of the week), I’m away this weekend so either had to test lifts this week or next, with the test running out slightly early I decided to slam down some hydrazine and go for back squat.

Felt really decent and threw up a solid rep at 407 - first time over 400lbs and made up.

Feeling excited for dead’s on Wednesday now as feel like strength is steaming back

Let’s fcuking have this
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407 big weight... Its not the gear its the hydrazine ;)
 
Godstrength said:
407 big weight... Its not the gear its the hydrazine ;)
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Honestly love that stuff - I’ve tried many many pwo’s and I’m really stim tolerant but that stuff is another level. The winny may have finally come to the party as well I guess lol
 
Whisky said:
Honestly love that stuff - I’ve tried many many pwo’s and I’m really stim tolerant but that stuff is another level. The winny may have finally come to the party as well I guess lol
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I just got another bottle last week.... It's a little pricey but worth it imo. Its my favorite pwo out there no doubt. And winny about week 4 . It starts showing up for sure. Its also one of my all time favorite AAS.

I think my next run im going to do androisoxazole (neo ponden) which is supposed to be a stronger winstrol with less sides and easier on joints. My source has it right now....
 
Godstrength said:
I just got another bottle last week.... It's a little pricey but worth it imo. Its my favorite pwo out there no doubt. And winny about week 4 . It starts showing up for sure. Its also one of my all time favorite AAS.

I think my next run im going to do androisoxazole (neo ponden) which is supposed to be a stronger winstrol with less sides and easier on joints. My source has it right now....
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Likewise, hydrazine totally worth the price. I do save it for big sessions though, just use one from a local company called PNI (hexanite is the pwo) for normal sessions, has 400mg caffeine a scoop so does the job.

And that sounds interesting although quite honestly I’ve not notice any joint issues from the winny at all. I did my fish oils and I’m still taking the mk677 so I’m assuming that’s offset the worst of it:
 
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