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Which product to take with TRT

Whacked

Whacked

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Looking to run a cycle with var like results?

Looking for NON-methylated liver toxic items.

I am on TRT (150 test a week) so I am running Test Base.

Which liver friendly product would be a nice adjuct?
 
ive been on trt for sometime and concentrate more on clearing estrogen from the liver rather than adding a ph. Supplements like grape seed extract, transresevatrol, dim or indole-3-carbinol are standard for me,
As youve posted this in the CEL section take a look at their non meth ph/ds , their mild and not liver toxic in the same way as a 17a product.
 
CEL 11 sterone is an awesome product and I think you will enjoy it. You can run it for 6 to 8 weeks. I run 6 caps everday 3 x 2 for four weeks with nice results. Another option would be Furuza-A or a clone of it.. Check that out as well..SJ
 
Whacked said:
Looking to run a cycle with var like results?

Looking for NON-methylated liver toxic items.

I am on TRT (150 test a week) so I am running Test Base.

Which liver friendly product would be a nice adjuct?
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M-LMG is the strongest legal non methyl.
Should stack it with a DHT sources as well.

Furuza and 11-sterone wont add a lb of mass IMO, especially if you are on tRT..
 
Ehhh, looking for NON-wet products

Maybe I'll give the Furaz a whirl.

gamer2be08 said:
M-LMG is the strongest legal non methyl.
Should stack it with a DHT sources as well.
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dont understand these suggestions for a prohormone that converts to dht or is a dht product.Surley he will get enough dht from the test.If his body can tolerate the dht from this , and he has no issues such as loosing hair , enlarged prostate why rock the boat by increasing this hormone.

sorry but i just dont get your recommendations
 
I am glad you brought this up Corsaking.

Being on TRT I am already exposed to higher (but hopefully normal) levels of DHT. So, this might be a good point???
 
Whacked said:
I am glad you brought this up Corsaking.

Being on TRT I am already exposed to higher (but hopefully normal) levels of DHT. So, this might be a good point???
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ive been a member of AM for some time and its very rare to see in a post concerns about DHT ;Estrogen -yes .estrogen on here is talked about as though its the plague when there are some positive aspects of estrogen .

In my book you dont want anything that aromatises as youll have enough E and you dont want anything that converts to DHT,

Although non methylated phs are weak , you have a base of testosterone so they could be a nice little addition.

guys who dont have trt wouldnt necessarily run them as a standalone but have done inconjunction with a methylated product.

id be inclined to go with furaza ,youve nothing to loose except a bit of cash if nothing happens Alot of these things its trial and error.
 
Solid advice. Thanks ;)
 
corsaking said:
ive been a member of AM for some time and its very rare to see in a post concerns about DHT ;Estrogen -yes .estrogen on here is talked about as though its the plague when there are some positive aspects of estrogen .

In my book you dont want anything that aromatises as youll have enough E and you dont want anything that converts to DHT,

Although non methylated phs are weak , you have a base of testosterone so they could be a nice little addition.

guys who dont have trt wouldnt necessarily run them as a standalone but have done inconjunction with a methylated product.

id be inclined to go with furaza ,youve nothing to loose except a bit of cash if nothing happens Alot of these things its trial and error.
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Furuza is worthless alone or with test, unless you are cutting..

Also, the amount of DHT conversion you get depends on the method you recieve the test. The topicals convert more to DHT and injectable test will have same conversion as your normal test levels.
 
jtfisher said:
currenty I take shots of test cyp for my trt
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If your test-c TRT dose is less than 200mg per week, you would for sure benefit from a DHT compound. (d-plex/andorhard)

Also, furuz and h-drol are great for cut/recomp, but if you want something mild, non-liver toxic and will give you decent mass/strength, then you want something like M-LMG or 19-nor...

The reason I say add in the DHT is because the 2 compounds I suggest are progestines, and if you add a DHT compound, it will minimize any progestine side effect..

But, it is your choice..
And if I were you, already on TRT, I would not use furuza for sure..
 
jtfisher said:
Actually I take 200 mgs of test cyp once every two weeks so your suggestions are relevant for me. I like the d-plex idea after reading about it. I will have to do some research on dosing protocols. Thank for the advice
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d-plex is quite nice, but don't be afraid to eat on it. Its quite dietarily gains limited, but will pack on a decent amount of lean mass with enough food.
 
Whacked said:
Looking to run a cycle with var like results?

Looking for NON-methylated liver toxic items.

I am on TRT (150 test a week) so I am running Test Base.

Which liver friendly product would be a nice adjuct?
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For Var like, Furza is your best bet.
 
Correct.

Gamer - you're not a big fan of Furaz huh? LOL :p
 
can anyone come up with a league table of non methylated ph listing those with the most impact interms of gains first

similarly methylated but not just in terms of gains but on stress on the liver. Although some ph are methylated, they dont all but the liver under the same amount of stress eg cynostane , from what ive read is mild on the liver , yet methylated.
 
That would be invaluable!

I'm sure you'd get better hits in the Anabolic Section ???
 
jtfisher said:
I too am on TRT and am looking to get lean before I go for mass. Would the furaza work for me as well. I was thinking about 6 weeks of hdrol also. Thanks
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Yah, Hdrol or Helladrol (same thing) for 6 weeks would provide some outstanding results. I am a big fan of Halodrol 50. I love it. I was a real big fan of Phera when it was legal, although, I always noticed more side effects with it. Anyway, Halodrol is Methylated just keep that in mind..SJ
 
Whacked said:
Looking to run a cycle with var like results?

Looking for NON-methylated liver toxic items.

I am on TRT (150 test a week) so I am running Test Base.

Which liver friendly product would be a nice adjuct?
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what did you decide to go for?
 
corsaking said:
what did you decide to go for?
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He went with Decavol from Advanced Muscle Science. He just discontinued it's usage because of some extreme lethargy so he's just on TRT now. Go check out our threads; i'm running it right now and on Day 8 the product just kicked in. It didn't work too well for Whacked though :(
 
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