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WHICH PCT COMBO IS BEST TO PREVENT SHUTDOWN-MY FIRST TIME CYCLE?

philo1025

philo1025

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Here is the scenario: FIRST TIME CYCLE: STUDIED THE SUBJECT HARD........

What is the most reliable PCT COMBO solution if I take X-TREN for the first time?

What is the most reliable PCT COMBO solution if I take H-drol for the first time?

Does TREN make you SHUTDOWN hard or is H-Drol worse? Which works better?

I have on hand now:
PRELOAD WEEK: CEL CYCLE ASSIST ( 4 caps x 2 a day: 60 total per bottle)
CEL H-DROl (?First)
CEL X-TREN Two bottles (?First)
GN07 Gaspari Nutrition Novedex XT, 60 Caps
Fenugreek
CEL PCT ASSIST (3 caps x 2 a day: 60 total in bottle)

DO I NEED NOLVA OR CLOMID? HOW SHOULD I DOSE?
Should I do bloodwork if I am a healthy 27 year old.....5 Ft 11 Weight 178 never had a health problem before? I have literally a bunch of morons around me who do cycle after cycle and have girlfriends that are banging but cheating on these clowns like nobodies business because of the lack of sex drive. I don't want their advice...I want to keep my sex drive and lady happy... I NEED HELP with PROPER ADVICE for.......:privateeye:my first cycle........ I am in fairly good shape. I have about 10-11% body fat. I max about 200 on bench. I work out 5-6 days a week and play alot of basketball (3xWEEK).

REMEMBER: I want to stay LEAN and shred hard. Diets in check.......is this enough to take to the next level without going bald?

Suggestions PLEASE!!!!!!!ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING WILL HELP
 
I have did days of research.....answer are limited and the rep who answered me advised not to ake X-TREN why?
 
Using AAS there r always risks. You say u gave done the research but doesn't seem so with all your questions. Tren can shut you down but that depends on dose and length of cycle. Plus I can have BP issues more so than other aas. Plus u can develop progresterone gyno. Plus your sex drive can decrease. These are all side effects off aas use. Do yourself a favor check out the section on PCT here... Maybe read some logs of people that ran tren.
 
Being your first cycle and wanting the least shutdown i would recommend Hdrol
as your first pro-hormone.

Cycle assist preloaded and used with hdrol looks good.
hdrol is usual ran for 6 weeks starting with 50mg and ending around 100mg
That is just an average example of how people run it, you can switch it up
but i wouldnt go above 100mg for your first cycle.
As you can see you will need two bottles of hdrol.

As for pct the basics for otc pct are a test booster, estrogen blocker, and cortisol control. Pct assist will help your pct along side these products.

An example test booster is Diesel test hardcore
An example estrogen blocker is inhibit-e
An example cortisol controller is Lean xtreme
 
jherman08 said:
Being your first cycle and wanting the least shutdown i would recommend Hdrol
as your first pro-hormone.

Cycle assist preloaded and used with hdrol looks good.
hdrol is usual ran for 6 weeks starting with 50mg and ending around 100mg
That is just an average example of how people run it, you can switch it up
but i wouldnt go above 100mg for your first cycle.
As you can see you will need two bottles of hdrol.

As for pct the basics for otc pct are a test booster, estrogen blocker, and cortisol control. Pct assist will help your pct along side these products.

An example test booster is Diesel test hardcore
An example estrogen blocker is inhibit-e
An example cortisol controller is Lean xtreme
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not to get side tracked but to jherman or the OP if decided to go this path stock up now on great prices the recent FDA activity is banning all 17a-methyl compounds, and has a goal of banning all PHs all together, making them as rare as AASs.
but back to the OP, what your looking to take is some serious stuff, like most people would advise, you need to do much more research, most people spend a few weeks on research, as I do. Also like herman babysteps if you've never tried anything like this before, Hdrol is a good stepping stone.
 
definitely definitely definitely no matter what it costs get a full hormone panel blood test first. you don't necessarily need to get one after pct to see if everything has returned to normal so long as you feel decent, but having a baseline to know where you starting in case **** hits the fan is important. yes if you can't get it done thru insurance they are expensive, but if things go odd and you don't know what your baseline was all you can do is guess.
 
so would you recommend tribulus as a test booster or something like mentioned above

trying to figure out PCT..have serm, cort control, and inhibit-e
 
philo1025 said:
Here is the scenario: FIRST TIME CYCLE: STUDIED THE SUBJECT HARD........

What is the most reliable PCT COMBO solution if I take X-TREN for the first time?

What is the most reliable PCT COMBO solution if I take H-drol for the first time?

Does TREN make you SHUTDOWN hard or is H-Drol worse? Which works better?

I have on hand now:
PRELOAD WEEK: CEL CYCLE ASSIST ( 4 caps x 2 a day: 60 total per bottle)
CEL H-DROl (?First)
CEL X-TREN Two bottles (?First)
GN07 Gaspari Nutrition Novedex XT, 60 Caps
Fenugreek
CEL PCT ASSIST (3 caps x 2 a day: 60 total in bottle)

DO I NEED NOLVA OR CLOMID? HOW SHOULD I DOSE?
Should I do bloodwork if I am a healthy 27 year old.....5 Ft 11 Weight 178 never had a health problem before? I have literally a bunch of morons around me who do cycle after cycle and have girlfriends that are banging but cheating on these clowns like nobodies business because of the lack of sex drive. I don't want their advice...I want to keep my sex drive and lady happy... I NEED HELP with PROPER ADVICE for.......:privateeye:my first cycle........ I am in fairly good shape. I have about 10-11% body fat. I max about 200 on bench. I work out 5-6 days a week and play alot of basketball (3xWEEK).

REMEMBER: I want to stay LEAN and shred hard. Diets in check.......is this enough to take to the next level without going bald?

Suggestions PLEASE!!!!!!!ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING WILL HELP
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Woah there big fella, you're 178 and bench 200? i think you're in need of more training rather than a quick fix steroid cycle :banghead:

post your routine. is your diet in check? i'm sure there are others here who would advocate this.
 
damwee said:
so would you recommend tribulus as a test booster or something like mentioned above

trying to figure out PCT..have serm, cort control, and inhibit-e
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you could get away with that alone. im using clomid/lean xtreme/novedex xt for my pct. start the anti-e week 3 of ur serm, cort control throughout. if you wanna get some tribulus or a Diesel Test Hardcore for a test boost, just start it along the serm
 
Ju1cedUp said:
you could get away with that alone. im using clomid/lean xtreme/novedex xt for my pct. start the anti-e week 3 of ur serm, cort control throughout. if you wanna get some tribulus or a Diesel Test Hardcore for a test boost, just start it along the serm
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so to start off pct start with the serm, test booster, and cort control....then week 3 start on the anti-estrogen. correct?
 
asoulecpt said:
Do some research bro. All your questions have been answered before.
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word if uve done all yer research then u would know all that, just fyi ur making yer first cycl alil to complecated, i highly recommend getting to know yer body therfor u will know wats going on when ur ''on''
 
Novedex XT is garbage.....goin with BLUE UP test booster.....PCT ASSIST...NOLVA 20/20/10/10...and LIVER SUPPORT...H-drol is not as crayz as some poepl make it out to be....cycle is finished..LEAN FX for Cortisol but always have acne cuz i am proned...

Bench MAX 260
BF 8%
about weight 178
extremly cut....
lethargy no shutdown...ready ti imgregnate the next chick with the hugest boobs.....oh wait thats dude who didnt take NOLVA
 
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