Where to start??

[JOE1234]

Hey guys, I have been working out for almost 25yrs now, have used Steroids in the past, none in 15yrs. I recently got interested in prohomones due to the FDA bans and such on products that really work. At age 35 I have aches and pains due to lifing heavy and cant recover like the good old days. I am currently suffering through it all and it sucks... I just want to feel good and grow slowly...

I have read alot on the net about 1ad, halotest, hemadrol, methyl e, 1,4ad, etc. most info was from 2006-2007ish some more recent. Just wondering which are weakest to strongest. I grabbed a bunch over the past 2 weeks. RIGHT BEFORE they were pulled off the market some the DAY before...thank God

Got
5, andro rx 1ad.
3, Stanzadrol.. 1,4ad and halotest stacked
8 hemadrol, halodrol-50/turnibol clone pro steroid.
3 halotest-25 "same stuff?/" almost??
3 methel E episitne, sounds good....

I got this all for the next couple of years I figured since I wont be able to buy when I want it in the future.

I want to start with weakest and work my way to stronger PH's. Was thinking about 8-10 weeks of the 1AD followed by 6 weeks PCT trione-6 or clomid or 1000-2000mg tribulis t etc??

I am 6' 207lbs right now, decently lean and want to add 10lbs muscle and lose 10lbs fat and STAY that way...for this coming summer. I have had just about every body type in the past, BIG...to fat...to lean...to ripped I know what usually works for me, just looking for some advice from experienced users of these products. THANKS..

 

[celc5]

start with a halo clone. That's a real smooth run. Strength and size gains are steady, not explosive by any means, but enough to make you happy. Sides are nill and pct is a breeze, most don't use serms for a halo clone. Although at 35, it may be a good idea to run a bit of clomid if you feel you need the jumpstart.

75mg is probably gonna be your sweet spot at your size. You could run it something like this

wk1 50
wk2 75
wk3-6 play it by ear, probably will go up to 100 at week 4 or 5.

Keep in mind that I like the lack of sides at 75 so that's where I like to stay. Occasionally, at 100, some people start to have BP issues and more aggressive calf/back pumps. Just some things to keep in mind.

 

[lennoxchi]

good adivse.....X2^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

 

[JOE1234]

Thanks alot, its been helpful reading around here found this post
anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/89979-otc-hormone-chart.html

Halo seems to be a good place to start and its also what I bought the most of
2.6 times as anabolic vs androgenic 74/28 16 hr half life. Should help me recover and grow without the soreness and pain. I almost went for 12 weeks of deca but wised up, no need for needles anymore.
As for taking anything, I remember 2-4 weeks was the min. for feeling any real results. I was thinking of just doing 50mg/day for the first month, seeing how I feel then up it to 75-100mg if I even want too, for another 4 weeks, then 6 week PCT.
I can usually grow off small doses, I got pretty big once off of 150mg deca every 14 days for 3-4 months... everyone accused me of being on stuff...lol I denied it (1994) the good ol days!!

So halo 1st cycle then 1AD later in the year? you think I will be good to progress or can you use the same stuff at the same does for more than 1 cycle? It seems to me switching compounds would help trick your body into growing?

 

[celc5]

I strongly caution against planning a cycle down the road based on your stash. Reason being, you can't predict how you respond to compounds... each person has their niche.

Also, and maybe more importantly, halo is going to blow away your 1AD (if it's the 1ad that I'm thinking of that's currently on the market). No offense to that product, but if you run halo first, you are gonna be disappointed in 1ad next.

For now, focus on these things:
1) halo plan
2) health support plan for on cycle and pct
3) pct plan
4) pct "contingency" plan for "just in case" problems
5) don't think about future cycles. You'll have plenty of time to do that after your halo cycle.