I just picked up some M-Sten and want to place it somewhere in a Trest Ace cycle. I was thinking....run it during the last 4 weeks but I hear of people using it as a "kick-starter". I'm trying to understand the kickstarter approach but it seems to me that I'd risk screwing up my lipids and possibly getting lethargy sides at the very beginning of a long intense cycle. But, I'm new...and don't know crap. Anyway, where would you place the M-Sten in a 10 week cycle of Trest Ace 15-20mg....and at what doses? Thanks again for always being there to answer my dumbarse questions.