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When the boss is away.......(CONTEST)

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Something like this i have planned i dont know yet

15-20min before breakfast 1 AP
Breakfast: 1 MFX, 1 R2
noon - 3 IGF-2
before lunch 1 AP
Lunch: 1 MFX,
Pre-WO: 1 MFX, 1 R2, 3 igf-2, 6 Neovar , 2 activate
Post-WO/Dinner: 1 MFX,4 neovar
Before bed 3 igf-2 , 3 Lipotropin-PM
 
Don't know yet, I can't remember what I won from the contest! When the pack comes I will see, lol. As for right now, I am taking Trenadrol, BCAA's, Reset AD, and Osteo-C. So I will just add what I get to the mix.
 
TheMyth said:
Don't know yet, I can't remember what I won from the contest! When the pack comes I will see, lol. As for right now, I am taking Trenadrol, BCAA's, Reset AD, and Osteo-C. So I will just add what I get to the mix.
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Now I'm jealous, everyone is getting care packages but me. Guess I'll do the only logical thing - NutraPlanet order time!!!

Let's see, here's my plan,
2 bottles RPM
2 bars of that Java soap, or whatever it is called that seems to be great on scars since I have many.
And something else to stack with my YG supply...maybe some IGF-2 or Activate Extreme....
Oh yeah, and a bottle of Aspire36 for good measure!
 
and don't make fun of my lack of basic biology skills from earlier...even a three year old can tell a cat from a dog!
 
joecski said:
Now I'm jealous, everyone is getting care packages but me. Guess I'll do the only logical thing - NutraPlanet order time!!!

Let's see, here's my plan,
2 bottles RPM
2 bars of that Java soap, or whatever it is called that seems to be great on scars since I have many.
And something else to stack with my YG supply...maybe some IGF-2 or Activate Extreme....
Oh yeah, and a bottle of Aspire36 for good measure!
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i hope you are lucky enouf to get some java lather, i have tried to make several orders and its out

actually this past order 3 things in my shopping cart werent available. so i had to take them out
X-lean, X-dream, and java lather
 
Zombie said:
i hope you are lucky enouf to get some java lather, i have tried to make several orders and its out

actually this past order 3 things in my shopping cart werent available. so i had to take them out
X-lean, X-dream, and java lather
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It seems the lather is very popular, even my wife wants some. Seems like NP is out of many items nowadays...price of popularity I guess
 
joecski said:
Now I'm jealous, everyone is getting care packages but me. Guess I'll do the only logical thing - NutraPlanet order time!!!

Let's see, here's my plan,
2 bottles RPM
2 bars of that Java soap, or whatever it is called that seems to be great on scars since I have many.
And something else to stack with my YG supply...maybe some IGF-2 or Activate Extreme....
Oh yeah, and a bottle of Aspire36 for good measure!
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That activate extreme does sound interesting, I'd probably say that or maybe diesel test hardcore would be a nice choice
 
No definite timeline.... but I'd strongly suggest you guys start your stockpile of AN Anabolic money ;) Or maybe just spend it on RPM for now. lol
 
TheMyth said:
:toilet:


I'll tell you what upsets your stomach, its called Alli! My mom bought some at costco and said she wasn't going to use it, so she gave it to me. Well, let me tell you, it works well at doing it's job, but man, you are on the toilet 5-6 times a day! I took it just as some damage control for the weekend (movie popcorn, candy, pizza). After you crap you can see all the fat in the toilet all crapped out. Cool that it works, but man, be near a bathroom if your gonna take it!:dump:
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Myth, don't touch that crap! You'll be looking at vitamin deficiences on top of stained underpants. Another FDA blunder.................
 
Lanbane said:
Reminds me... I have $20 canadian sitting here.... gotta find a place to exchange it up.
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Do you know if anyone has stacked some of these other ingredients with IGF-2? It sounds like a good combo :)

4-amino-3-Phenylbutric Acid
Gamma Amino Butyric Acid
Macuna Pruriens Extract (standardized to 20% L-Dopa)
L-Arginine HCL
L-Tyrosine
L-Phenylaline
Vitamin B-6
(as Pyridoxine HCL) 10mg 500%
 
hmmmm.... I've personally used l-tyrosine w/ it. it has mucuna in it already, but I've stack Lipo-PM with it, which is extra mucuna. The others, i haven't heard specific reports on. Is this list a product you have in mind?
 
Lanbane said:
hmmmm.... I've personally used l-tyrosine w/ it. it has mucuna in it already, but I've stack Lipo-PM with it, which is extra mucuna. The others, i haven't heard specific reports on. Is this list a product you have in mind?
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Not that i'm truly thinking of buying, as its about $2 a day by itself, but it sounds very interesting if true. I'm not sure what the 4-amino-3-Phenylbutric Acid actually is, but GABA is readily available. its Somatomax

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What makes it really interesting is what they throw around for numbers for HGH rise

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I had been considering the pGH-T product too, the transdermal. Just looking to crank up GH a bit to help add to skin elasticity as I've lost so much weight over the last 5 months (almost 50 lbs now). As well as its anabolic effect of course :)
 
looks like possibly 4-amino-3-Phenylbutric Acid is just the chemical name for Phenibut, in which case I duplicate this formulation way cheaper using bulks :)
 
Im thinkign of doign morning cardio on a emoty stomach , im taking yohimbine, maybe Ill wait intill later during the day. Tomorrow is an off day from lifting
 
EasyEJL said:
Do you know if anyone has stacked some of these other ingredients with IGF-2? It sounds like a good combo :)

4-amino-3-Phenylbutric Acid
Gamma Amino Butyric Acid
Macuna Pruriens Extract (standardized to 20% L-Dopa)
L-Arginine HCL
L-Tyrosine
L-Phenylaline
Vitamin B-6
(as Pyridoxine HCL) 10mg 500%
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looks like somatax orwhatever that sleep aid recovery product was
 
Lanbane said:
It's alright.... I found the damn thing on the ground. You think I'd deliberately have Canadian money? lol
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J comeon.....im right here damnit..hahha....its pretty green huh....have ya seen our purple 10's....and blue 5's..lol..honestly it helps at the bar/club when i dig in my wallet hammered, i can tell the difference in what i give the dodgy bartender so she doesnt shaft me...
 
strait bulk powders work best. A few things have good synergy. Outside I have tooken many of these you talk about , never combined.Ive taken gaba and phenibut toegther. These work nice.
 
Lanbane said:
Myth, don't touch that crap! You'll be looking at vitamin deficiences on top of stained underpants. Another FDA blunder.................
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It's about as miraculus as mass dosing Chitosan (crushed shell fish) which absorbs oils/fats (along with any oil solluble vitamins).

Great for keeping you super regular, bad for keeping you healthy.
 
Guys, guys, I know it isn't healthy to do all the time, but one meal where you don't absorb the fats is not bad for you at all. I would never use this so that I could eat bad all the time. Heck I would not even buy it, I just got it for free and thought it would be nice to use on my cheat meals! Plus, I get plenty of vitamins throughout my day, I eat alot of fruit and veggies!
 
TheMyth said:
Guys, guys, I know it isn't healthy to do all the time, but one meal where you don't absorb the fats is not bad for you at all. I would never use this so that I could eat bad all the time. Heck I would not even buy it, I just got it for free and thought it would be nice to use on my cheat meals! Plus, I get plenty of vitamins throughout my day, I eat alot of fruit and veggies!
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Cheaters or cheats or something is cheaper :) and it's essentially the same thing functional wise. But the 'fat' isn't what's making you 'fat'. It's all those damn carbs you suck down with it.
 
excess cals make you fat, not carbs. So when cheating, if I take this, I cut out a good portion of the fat I eat, thus lowering my cals, and lowering my fat gain. When you cheat, you know you are going to gain some fat, its nice to be able to lower how much you will put on. I don't cheat all to often either BTW.
 
TheMyth said:
excess cals make you fat, not carbs. So when cheating, if I take this, I cut out a good portion of the fat I eat, thus lowering my cals, and lowering my fat gain. When you cheat, you know you are going to gain some fat, its nice to be able to lower how much you will put on. I don't cheat all to often either BTW.
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actually, try taking a high carb load diet at maintenance calories. I guarantee that you will gain fat over time.

carbs make you soft!
 
SatireWolf said:
actually, try taking a high carb load diet at maintenance calories. I guarantee that you will gain fat over time.

carbs make you soft!
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Yeah, I'd say that carbs have a greater affinity for making you fat. Due to the greater insulin response to them over any other macro.

But if it's truly maintenance calories, then you shouldn't be gaining much of anything on a high carb load diet. That is, if you're getting adequate protein to preserve muscle mass. Otherwise, you're probably going to stay the same weight, but displace muscle mass with fat.
 
You guys are right. Anyone remember "America on the Move".... the program that was nationwide a few years back promoting the pedometers and walking more? The guy who started it spoke here a few years back (he is in charge of a national weight loss research institute or something). He preached that calories in vs. calories out was the bottom line. I asked him to compare a man who ate 2000 calories of twinkies vs. a man who ate 2000 calories of vegetables, fats and protein. He said that if all things otherwise were the same, the men would gain and lose weight at a similar rate.

I wanted to slap him.
 
Lanbane said:
You guys are right. Anyone remember "America on the Move".... the program that was nationwide a few years back promoting the pedometers and walking more? The guy who started it spoke here a few years back (he is in charge of a national weight loss research institute or something). He preached that calories in vs. calories out was the bottom line. I asked him to compare a man who ate 2000 calories of twinkies vs. a man who ate 2000 calories of vegetables, fats and protein. He said that if all things otherwise were the same, the men would gain and lose weight at a similar rate.

I wanted to slap him.
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Well...he might be right, in that he didn't specify the type of weight gain/loss each would be doing. The twinky guy would probably gain fat and lose muscle, while the other one would probably gain muscle and lose fat. By just looking at weight as one #, though, the rate of gain/loss could be fairly similar. Who knows, I don't think anyone is willing to go on the twinky diet for research purposes.
 
Lanbane said:
You guys are right. Anyone remember "America on the Move".... the program that was nationwide a few years back promoting the pedometers and walking more? The guy who started it spoke here a few years back (he is in charge of a national weight loss research institute or something). He preached that calories in vs. calories out was the bottom line. I asked him to compare a man who ate 2000 calories of twinkies vs. a man who ate 2000 calories of vegetables, fats and protein. He said that if all things otherwise were the same, the men would gain and lose weight at a similar rate.

I wanted to slap him.
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some good related stuff here.

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I still don't believe in calories anyhow, since they are calculated by burning the materials. So duh, of course oils create more heat than sugar. And since your body uses a chemical process to break down food vs heat, i dont know if our conceptions are meaningful at all. After all, how do Ketogenic diets work at all then? I've lost weight while taking in 4000+ cal a day on an atkins diet
 
EasyEJL said:
some good related stuff here.

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I still don't believe in calories anyhow, since they are calculated by burning the materials. So duh, of course oils create more heat than sugar. And since your body uses a chemical process to break down food vs heat, i dont know if our conceptions are meaningful at all. After all, how do Ketogenic diets work at all then? I've lost weight while taking in 4000+ cal a day on an atkins diet
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Not anything definite, but here's my ideas/thinking about the stuff you brought up.

The burning of the food source shows how much potential energy it has through combustion. I'm not sure why it wouldn't yield the same energy from a chemical conversion, unless the human body is extremely inefficient.

For ketogenic diets, it mostly manipulates insulin response from meals as well as puts the body in a state where it has little available glycogen in muscle tissue, so it uses fat for energy instead. So yes, this shows there's a difference between the carb calorie and the others, but the weight loss might not be as accurate as you might think.

If you look at the # of pounds lost on a ketogenic diet, there's likely to be some from fat, but also you can't forget that you were carb depleting. You know that carbs easily store in muscle tissue as glycogen and also that they tend to take a significant amount of water in there with them. The water and glycogen likely amount to a good part of the weight loss seen on a ketogenic diet. This is why it's so easy to gain weight after getting off it and eating carbs again. I easily put on 9-10 pounds in a couple weeks after stopping a cyclical ketogenic diet, with very little fat gain. So that meant about 1/3 of what I lost in body weight was not body mass in the form of fat or muscle tissue.
 
bitterplacebo said:
Well...he might be right, in that he didn't specify the type of weight gain/loss each would be doing. The twinky guy would probably gain fat and lose muscle, while the other one would probably gain muscle and lose fat. By just looking at weight as one #, though, the rate of gain/loss could be fairly similar. Who knows, I don't think anyone is willing to go on the twinky diet for research purposes.
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In the short term, yes.... but long term, they would skew away from each other greatly.... it's like maintenance on a machine.... if you take poor care, it gradually functions worse and worse....
 
bitterplacebo said:
Yeah, I'd say that carbs have a greater affinity for making you fat. Due to the greater insulin response to them over any other macro.

But if it's truly maintenance calories, then you shouldn't be gaining much of anything on a high carb load diet. That is, if you're getting adequate protein to preserve muscle mass. Otherwise, you're probably going to stay the same weight, but displace muscle mass with fat.
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when I said high, I meant REALLY high. As in sugar shock high. Maintenance doesn't mean you won't lose muscle, just that you won't necessarily gain weight. But weight, not being the most important factor in your health....
 
Lanbane said:
In the short term, yes.... but long term, they would skew away from each other greatly.... it's like maintenance on a machine.... if you take poor care, it gradually functions worse and worse....
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Definitely, the twinkies just don't have enough protein or vitamins/minerals to sustain off of.
 
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