When the boss is away.......(CONTEST)

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Whatever the number, the journey does not end. I got 18" arms and then what. I got 10% bf then what. Of course 18" arms WITH 10% bf would be nice....and quite the journey.
 
B5150 said:
Whatever the number, the journey does not end. I got 18" arms and then what. I got 10% bf then what. Of course 18" arms WITH 10% bf would be nice....and quite the journey.
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I am going to go for around 6% bf and 18" arms sound nice. Take a picture then retire...

I will just get me some shirts that said I was this ripped once :lol:


Of course I am kidding. Is one ever satisfied?
 
I think based on my overall body shape, i'm just looking for the 10% to see abs, and maybe 15" arms. I'm over 14 already so its not a huge journey. I like the "classic greek" proportions best really
 
I want a tat :head: I wanted something like my avy that represents my Faith. But, I also like the Oriental tats like a dragon or a tiger...

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:D I'm just thinking out loud (sort of)
 

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EasyEJL said:
I think based on my overall body shape, i'm just looking for the 10% to see abs, and maybe 15" arms. I'm over 14 already so its not a huge journey. I like the "classic greek" proportions best really
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The most important thing to consider is are you leaner and/or stronger than YOU were before? Are YOU making progress?

I went from 195 to 157 at my lowest... was I as ripped as some guys here? Not even close. As strong? Not by a longshot. But I was better than I was. You keep making strides...keep your self and your wife happy! :D

When you are 45 and your kid's friends say...that's you Dad? Wow! I wish my Dad looked like that! You will realize that all great accomplishments take time and effort.

Seacrest out :run:
 
thewilman said:
The most important thing to consider is are you leaner and/or stronger than YOU were before? Are YOU making progress?

I went from 195 to 157 at my lowest... was I as ripped as some guys here? Not even close. As strong? Not by a longshot. But I was better than I was. You keep making strides...keep your self and your wife happy! :D

When you are 45 and your kid's friends say...that's you Dad? Wow! I wish my Dad looked like that! You will realize that all great accomplishments take time and effort.

Seacrest out :run:
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I've changed enough that I've had some people not quite recognize me at first glance. and the change in clothes is significant! Strength is still climbing slowly. Its a little harder for me to judge that quite as easily, as the GVT is pretty wearing. I almost think it will be easier to see strength changes on GBC, at least its smaller sets. the 10 set thing is so hard to work thru

I kinda liked NO shotgun too, but stopped using it. It was too stimmy really, left me feeling icky if I worked out too long or waited too long to eat post workout
 
thewilman said:
I saw the 1st season and I saw 1 episode so far. I like the show. the Australian guy is really unorthodox.
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I liked him, unti I saw him fight.

Eveybody is always looking on how they can get over and looking for the easiest fight, which is not a champion or contender in my book. Anywhom, he tried to help out the cat everybody was gunning for. Solid guy, but has no skills. All heart and body.
 
thewilman said:
What exactly is GPA - guanipro?
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:rofl:

I mis-read that:

Dangerous Creatine?

No, this isn’t the tagline for a new type of creatine, it means that there’s a semi-popular creatine-like product on the market that may actually be harmful to your health. What’s worse is that there are now several copycat products on the market as well! As if that wasn’t bad enough, one of the potentially dangerous compounds (oh yes, there’s more than one!) that this product contains is ergolytic; i.e. something that decreases athletic performance.

This potentially dangerous ergolytic chemical is Guanidinopropionic Acid (GPA), [highlight]which binds the creatine transporter and plugs it up so creatine can’t be transported into various tissues [/highlight](similar to the concept of tamoxifen blocking the estrogen receptor, not allowing estrogen to bind). This is a problem, because most of our tissues can’t make creatine so it has to be transported in, and blocked transporters means a reduction in cellular creatine levels.

Bear in mind that creatine isn’t just a supplement, it’s a naturally occurring substance in our bodies that we need to survive! You know the impact of having 20% more creatine, now imagine having 80% less creatine! GPA induced creatine depletion can not only reduce muscle strength after a mere seven days of consumption (Gagnon et al., 2002), but has also been shown to convert fast-twitch muscle to slow-twitch (Ren et al., 1995)! So this substance might make you weaker and slower!

While these consequences should be enough to make you avoid supplements containing this chemical, there’s also a potentially dangerous side to consider: both our hearts and our brains have creatine transporters!!! Any time you start to mess around with our two most vital organs, it can’t be good. Fortunately, the brain seems to temporarily compensate for decreases in energy supply caused by GPA (O'Gorman et al., 1996), but do we really want our bodies to have to adapt to reduced energy levels? Of course not!

We also don’t want our hearts to be affected by GPA supplementation, but they are! In fact, 3 different studies showed that creatine levels in the heart dropped by 80-87% with GPA consumption in rats (Boehm et al., 2003, Neubauer et al., 1999; Horn et al., 2001). Now you can see why it’s nearly impossible to perform human studies using this substance! Clearly, you have to wonder what the manufacturers were thinking when they approved production of this supplement.

"But wait, there’s MORE! Order now and you’ll get another potentially dangerous ingredient for free!" One particular supplement ("SWOLE") combines GPA with another potentially dangerous substance known as Glycocyamine (G-amine). Sadly, G-amine (also known as guanidinoacetate) has been picked up by a few different supplement companies who obviously don’t do any research on what they’re getting people to ingest.

The reason G-amine is so popular (from a marketing standpoint, not from the consumers’) is because it is the precursor to creatine. Just like Testosterone can come from andro, creatine comes from G-amine. The theory is that you jack up G-amine levels and you get a whole bunch more creatine. The really asinine part is that, you can just directly take creatine!

We can’t take Testosterone due to legal reasons, so we have to find other ways to increase its levels—enter prohormones (among other effective things). But for our purposes, there’s no reason to worry about creatine precursors because we can just take the substance directly. The whole precursor concept is really hot when it comes to marketing to laymen, which is where this supplement takes off.

Unfortunately, consuming this chemical seems to have the undesirable effect of elevating blood levels of a substance called homocysteine, which is a very strong risk factor for cardiovascular disease (Stead et al., 2001). Cardiovascular disease is easily the number one killer in the Western World, and the last thing we need to do is increase our risk for it. Conversely, taking creatine decreases homocysteine levels, raising even more therapeutic possibilities for this supplement. As if to spit on your grave, if you’re supplementing with creatine, G-amine may also decrease its uptake by muscles (Zugno et al., 2003).

Sadly, the FDA has already spoken to the company that produces this "combo of harm," because another of its supplements caused liver damage… you’d think that they would have learned. Unfortunately, these substances aren’t just isolated to a single product—they’re popping up in all kinds of different supplements (including some protein powders)! It’s my opinion that products containing either of these substances should be pulled off the market and the formulas changed, but the FDA can’t do anything until harm has already been done. This means that it’s up to us to spread the word about these substances. Most importantly, before you supplement with something, do your research and KNOW WHAT YOU’RE CONSUMING!


In Summary

— Research suggests that once fully loaded, only minimal amounts of creatine are needed to maintain the muscle’s loaded state.

— Research suggests that creatine usually needs to be taken only after workouts (see Caveat).

— Reducing creatine intake may serve to prevent muscle creatine transporter downregulation.

— More active and muscular individuals may need to consume greater quantities to maintain intramuscular creatine levels.

— Adding a little sodium to your creatine containing drink may enhance its uptake.

— Guanidinopropionic Acid (GPA) and Glycocyamine (G-amine) are potentially dangerous compounds appearing in several supplement products—GET THE WORD OUT.

— Use these guidelines to tailor your optimum creatine intake protocol, and be wary of accepting any info as dogma.
 
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