When in doubt empty the magazine... - GMG760's Epistane Cycle

ok, so no answer on the formadrol. Question for anyone who can answer it... can I substitute the formadrol for the oxo, and if so, what dose?
 
GMG760 said:
ok, so no answer on the formadrol. Question for anyone who can answer it... can I substitute the formadrol for the oxo, and if so, what dose?
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I'll answer you my enraged Berserker brutha!! :aargh: Formadrol is fine, just dose it as suggested on the bottle. But on the other hand, 6-OXO is great as well. Either one would be fine in your pct bro!! :thumbsup: THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
 
well the OXO will help with the cortisol PC but thats about it, I think anything that is an AI and T booster will work..... I usually don't geek out on this sh!t to be honest. I have run some big ass cycles and usually just PCT with a little Nova, DHEA, and Trib
 
heavies said:
well the OXO will help with the cortisol PC but thats about it, I think anything that is an AI and T booster will work..... I usually don't geek out on this sh!t to be honest. I have run some big ass cycles and usually just PCT with a little Nova, DHEA, and Trib
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I'm afraid I've gotta disagree with you heavs. AI is an important part of PCT. SERM + AI...that's the only way to go. I never skimp on PCT. More is more when it comes to getting my junk back on track. I'm loving my current cycle, but I can't wait for my boys to hang out by my knees again.:D

Gmoney, stick with the oxo, imo. It's never steered me wrong. Check out the dosing scheme in my thread (based on TG's prescription:thumbsup:!)
 
thundergod said:
I'll answer you my enraged Berserker brutha!! :aargh: Formadrol is fine, just dose it as suggested on the bottle. But on the other hand, 6-OXO is great as well. Either one would be fine in your pct bro!! :thumbsup: THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
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Thanks TG! Good lookin out!
 
ThisGuy2 said:
I'm afraid I've gotta disagree with you heavs. AI is an important part of PCT. SERM + AI...that's the only way to go. I never skimp on PCT. More is more when it comes to getting my junk back on track. I'm loving my current cycle, but I can't wait for my boys to hang out by my knees again.:D

Gmoney, stick with the oxo, imo. It's never steered me wrong. Check out the dosing scheme in my thread (based on TG's prescription:thumbsup:!)
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You honestly think I should buy a bottle of 6oxo when I already have a bottle of formadrol? I mean, if enough of you think so, then cool, I mean I have the money, but I just figured I would use what I had on hand first if it was gonna do the trick... hmm... I got time to think, and oxo is sold EVERYWHERE so I'll keep doing my research on this one...
 
ThisGuy2 said:
I'm afraid I've gotta disagree with you heavs. AI is an important part of PCT. SERM + AI...that's the only way to go. I never skimp on PCT. More is more when it comes to getting my junk back on track. I'm loving my current cycle, but I can't wait for my boys to hang out by my knees again.:D

Gmoney, stick with the oxo, imo. It's never steered me wrong. Check out the dosing scheme in my thread (based on TG's prescription:thumbsup:!)
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I have seen lots of guys use serms only and been just fine.The thing of it is,the body is always restoring balance to hormones.Your test production is on or it's off.Thats how it regulates test levels.Once you stop injecting test or whatever,levels start to drop,your body starts producing again.Test converts to estrogen when needed,if levels are too high for your body,test won't convert as much if levels are low.A woman can be on birth control for years and years,stop the birth control,no "PCT,"and get pregnant shortly after.It's just what the human body does.Keeps hormones in balance with eachother.I would also like to pointout it's always the "serious" users who don't freak out over PCT........
 
pantera101 said:
I have seen lots of guys use serms only and been just fine.The thing of it is,the body is always restoring balance to hormones.Your test production is on or it's off.Thats how it regulates test levels.Once you stop injecting test or whatever,levels start to drop,your body starts producing again.Test converts to estrogen when needed,if levels are too high for your body,test won't convert as much if levels are low.A woman can be on birth control for years and years,stop the birth control,no "PCT,"and get pregnant shortly after.It's just what the human body does.Keeps hormones in balance with eachother.I would also like to pointout it's always the "serious" users who don't freak out over PCT........
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It's just my first time around... trying to do things intelligently.
 
GMG760 said:
It's just my first time around... trying to do things intelligently.
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I wasn't directing that to anyone in particular.I'm just saying guys that have a more relaxed attitude towards PCT usually have plenty of experience.Get your basics and you'll be fine.A serm is truly all thats needed.Test boosters are nice for insurance,but I want to experiment on myself and see how much of a difference a test booster actually makes.Cause like I said,as soon as the bodies test levels are too low,it will start producing again.It does that naturally.I'm going to look into it,but I may try nolva only after my cycle.See how it goes.......I have heard of it being done.
 
pantera101 said:
I wasn't directing that to anyone in particular.I'm just saying guys that have a more relaxed attitude towards PCT usually have plenty of experience.Get your basics and you'll be fine.A serm is truly all thats needed.Test boosters are nice for insurance,but I want to experiment on myself and see how much of a difference a test booster actually makes.Cause like I said,as soon as the bodies test levels are too low,it will start producing again.It does that naturally.I'm going to look into it,but I may try nolva only after my cycle.See how it goes.......I have heard of it being done.
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You can do all the experimenting for me brotha. I'll watch and learn. No desire to go that far out on a limb myself... but good on ya for wanting to do something different. I personally don't mind giving my body some help out when it comes to restoring my natural hormones, even if it costs me a few bucks.
 
GMG760 said:
You can do all the experimenting for me brotha. I'll watch and learn. No desire to go that far out on a limb myself... but good on ya for wanting to do something different. I personally don't mind giving my body some help out when it comes to restoring my natural hormones, even if it costs me a few bucks.
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Well I have seen others do it before on these sites.So it's not realy new,but def outside of the box.They say SERM's signal LH to start producing which is what signals test.As of now I don't feel shut down at all.Mood is good,sexual desire is still there,and my little buddy says hi in the mornings.....Now if this changes,I will prob get a botlle of DTH to be safe.I might anyways.It's kinda scary to try,but if I did it and notice the same recovery as usual,then why keep wasting money?
 
pantera101 said:
I wasn't directing that to anyone in particular.I'm just saying guys that have a more relaxed attitude towards PCT usually have plenty of experience.Get your basics and you'll be fine.A serm is truly all thats needed.Test boosters are nice for insurance,but I want to experiment on myself and see how much of a difference a test booster actually makes.Cause like I said,as soon as the bodies test levels are too low,it will start producing again.It does that naturally.I'm going to look into it,but I may try nolva only after my cycle.See how it goes.......I have heard of it being done.
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Hate to disagree with you bro, but I'm on my 12 cycle in 3 years. I still believe in pct overkill over pct underdone.
 
GMG760 said:
You honestly think I should buy a bottle of 6oxo when I already have a bottle of formadrol? I mean, if enough of you think so, then cool, I mean I have the money, but I just figured I would use what I had on hand first if it was gonna do the trick... hmm... I got time to think, and oxo is sold EVERYWHERE so I'll keep doing my research on this one...
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No, I didn't get that you already had form. Must've mis-read. If you've got form, go with that dude. You should be fine.
 
ThisGuy2 said:
Hate to disagree with you bro, but I'm on my 12 cycle in 3 years. I still believe in pct overkill over pct underdone.
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Have you tried both ways?I have read in an article in MD that a simple PCT is often better than one that looks like a shopping list,seen several guys who have simple PCT plans,I used nolva and drive after m drol.Recovered just fine.I wonder if the drive was even needed.When I was discussing that PCT a guy said how the body and the nolva will take care of test,and the drive isn't even needed.So I ask if he's done SERM only PCT's and he said he routinely does for the real thing,and so do his friends.This is my point about starting with high doses,how do you know if a smaller dose would of worked just fine now?You don't.I mean 2 bullets to the head will kill a living thing.But are 2 bullets necasary?They are if thats what you've been told to do and you have done it x amount of times and killed everything you shot.Theirs the proof right?Wrong!It's overkill,but you will never know as you waste a bullet and prove your point by how it's now dead......
 
For PCT i usually just do a SERM and keep taking my CS.

Every cycle I've done so far I was able to stop the SERM after 3 weeks. None of the cycles had significant shutdown.

Only thing I'm considering in the future is a cortisol blocker. I don't really believe in the high dosed serm following even the super light cycles, with AI, cort blocker, libido booster, more random stuff and minerals... just overkill to me

In fact for most of my cycles, a SERM was overkill. Hdrol and Epi pulse, for instance, was near instant recovery.
 
pantera101 said:
Have you tried both ways?I have read in an article in MD that a simple PCT is often better than one that looks like a shopping list,seen several guys who have simple PCT plans,I used nolva and drive after m drol.Recovered just fine.I wonder if the drive was even needed.When I was discussing that PCT a guy said how the body and the nolva will take care of test,and the drive isn't even needed.So I ask if he's done SERM only PCT's and he said he routinely does for the real thing,and so do his friends.This is my point about starting with high doses,how do you know if a smaller dose would of worked just fine now?You don't.I mean 2 bullets to the head will kill a living thing.But are 2 bullets necasary?They are if thats what you've been told to do and you have done it x amount of times and killed everything you shot.Theirs the proof right?Wrong!It's overkill,but you will never know as you waste a bullet and prove your point by how it's now dead......
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I don't OD serms. I go 40/40/20/20 nolva. sometimes i also hit clomid at 100/100/50/50, but not always (this time I'm doing 100/75/50/25). Bullets aren't that expensive, but test therapy is. how much extra is the ai? $30? not a big deal, imo.
 
Right now I'm using havoc,but I plan to go to 60mgs.I am strongly considering nolva only.......I never notice much with test boosters anyways.Thast why I wonder how much of a difference they actually make.I feel alot of it is the supp companies feeding off PCT and making it sound like a test booster is needed.
 
pantera101 said:
Have you tried both ways?I have read in an article in MD that a simple PCT is often better than one that looks like a shopping list,seen several guys who have simple PCT plans,I used nolva and drive after m drol.Recovered just fine.I wonder if the drive was even needed.When I was discussing that PCT a guy said how the body and the nolva will take care of test,and the drive isn't even needed.So I ask if he's done SERM only PCT's and he said he routinely does for the real thing,and so do his friends.This is my point about starting with high doses,how do you know if a smaller dose would of worked just fine now?You don't.I mean 2 bullets to the head will kill a living thing.But are 2 bullets necasary?They are if thats what you've been told to do and you have done it x amount of times and killed everything you shot.Theirs the proof right?Wrong!It's overkill,but you will never know as you waste a bullet and prove your point by how it's now dead......
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not arguing, mind you. still got nothing but love and respect for you pantera!!!
 
ThisGuy2 said:
I don't OD serms. I go 40/40/20/20 nolva. sometimes i also hit clomid at 100/100/50/50, but not always (this time I'm doing 100/75/50/25). Bullets aren't that expensive, but test therapy is. how much extra is the ai? $30? not a big deal, imo.
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I'm talking about guys where their PCT list goes on forever.I actually ran my nolva at 20/20/10 for m drol which was run at 10/10/10.I feel 40 is not needed either.Plus I feel most of this delayed gyno comes from guys running an AI after their designer.The designer supresses estrogen,the AI supresses estrogen.All the while it's trying to come back but can't.Then you drop the AI and the dam breaks......I never said AI's are expensive,but are they needed?
 
ThisGuy2 said:
not arguing, mind you. still got nothing but love and respect for you pantera!!!
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Same here man!It's just debate is all.Like I said earlier,I'm strongly considering using nolva only after my current cycle and see how things go.I have been shut down before for quite some time after a cycle that was ran too close to the previous,so I know how it feels.I think a serm would of bounced me back though.I was just using AX's advancd PCT before my serm days.If SERM's are enough,then why get the other stuff is my only point?They keep boobs from growing,and they signal LH to start producing while your body is doing it's thing.
 
pantera101 said:
I'm just saying guys that have a more relaxed attitude towards PCT usually have plenty of experience.
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You see I AM that guy, thats why I said what I said before G Money there is no need to geek out on this sh!t, focus on a basic SERM like Pantera said and instead focus on continuing to make strength gains and then do like TG and stay fvcking positive...... like I said I've ran some big cycles and retain well still have morning wood and shoot good loads and ALL I have ever done is 2 wks of a SERM at low doses DHEA and Trib. thats it.

However I respect you or thisguy2 or who ever, if you want to run 10 different things or what the fvck ever, in the end I bet we net damn near the same gains if all things are equal. You see where I am coming from....

If its so fvcking important tell me how Arnold Or Lou or _______. PCT'd in the 70's??
 
UnrealMachine said:
For PCT i usually just do a SERM and keep taking my CS.

Every cycle I've done so far I was able to stop the SERM after 3 weeks. None of the cycles had significant shutdown.

Only thing I'm considering in the future is a cortisol blocker. I don't really believe in the high dosed serm following even the super light cycles, with AI, cort blocker, libido booster, more random stuff and minerals... just overkill to me

In fact for most of my cycles, a SERM was overkill. Hdrol and Epi pulse, for instance, was near instant recovery.
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REPS FOR DIS MAN RIGHT HERE-------------DA FUHER!!!!!!

GODDMAN GUYS YOUR RUNNING PH's............. I AIN'T BUSTING CHOPS, YET....:toofunny:
 
heavies said:
You see I AM that guy, thats why I said what I said before G Money there is no need to geek out on this sh!t, focus on a basic SERM like Pantera said and instead focus on continuing to make strength gains and then do like TG and stay fvcking positive...... like I said I've ran some big cycles and retain well still have morning wood and shoot good loads and ALL I have ever done is 2 wks of a SERM at low doses DHEA and Trib. thats it.

However I respect you or thisguy2 or who ever, if you want to run 10 different things or what the fvck ever, in the end I bet we net damn near the same gains if all things are equal. You see where I am coming from....

If its so fvcking important tell me how Arnold Or Lou or _______. PCT'd in the 70's??
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I actually don't use that many products on PCT. Clomid to kickstart, nolva for my serm throughout and 6oxo starting week 3. I also use DTH, but then again, I'm on it now, too. I just really like the stuff.

I hear you about the old school way, though. My first cycle ever was sustanon 3 times weekly for 8 weeks, and I didn't know any better so I came off it directly onto 6 weeks of androstene (remember that???), and I was fine. Plus I was only 19.

But now I know better and I rather be safe about it. If you can pct w/ only nolva and get your hpta back on track, more power to you. I don't pct to keep my gains. I'm actually really lucky in that I never lose anything. My main goal in pct is always to get my levels back to normal.
 
heavies said:
well the OXO will help with the cortisol PC but thats about it, I think anything that is an AI and T booster will work..... I usually don't geek out on this sh!t to be honest. I have run some big ass cycles and usually just PCT with a little Nova, DHEA, and Trib
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did you confuse 6-OXO with 11-OXO?
 
GMG760 said:
hahahahaha!!!! you took my advice for your title... now I just need a title... hmm.... any suggestions?
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You know it! And did you see the new avi I put on to match??

Let me think about it. Timber's suggestion isn't too shabby!:thumbsup: Or you could just go with Hardcore MoFo.:head:
 
heavies said:
Hell I don't know probably, I have never taken the sh!t...... I thought the 6-OXO was a cortisol blocker, and not much else??????
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6-OXO is a popular AI, 11-OXO is a cortisol modulator...doesn't seem like you care to know; but I thought I'd share the info regardless.
 
ThisGuy2 said:
11oxo is also a ph. Great for cutting. In fact, I'm taking it right now on my current cut.
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that's true, but you have to take it at HIGH doses to benefit from it's anabolic properties.

A lot of people have made the mistake of using this in PCT for cort control...also causes supression.
 
also, using it standalone and at high doses is EXPENSIVE! a 10 day supply would be about $40
 
delsolrob said:
also, using it standalone and at high doses is EXPENSIVE! a 10 day supply would be about $40
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I'm not using it standalone, but it got expensive anyway. 2 bottles furazadrol, 2 bottle 11oxo, 2 bottles 11test (generic oxo), a bottle of winztrol that I just threw in for kicks and a bottle of MMV2 (which is the best sh!t EVER!).
 
pantera101 said:
I have seen lots of guys use serms only and been just fine.The thing of it is,the body is always restoring balance to hormones.Your test production is on or it's off.Thats how it regulates test levels.Once you stop injecting test or whatever,levels start to drop,your body starts producing again.Test converts to estrogen when needed,if levels are too high for your body,test won't convert as much if levels are low.A woman can be on birth control for years and years,stop the birth control,no "PCT,"and get pregnant shortly after.It's just what the human body does.Keeps hormones in balance with eachother.I would also like to pointout it's always the "serious" users who don't freak out over PCT........
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^^This is a good fcuking post so reconise bitxhes!!:thumbsup:^^
I know guys who run Test at ridiculas doses for extended periods (more than 12-14weeks) and come of with nolva/clomid only and recover just fine.

GMG bro if you gotz da formadrol already fcuking run that, this sht ain't splitting atoms. 6oxo might be better,...maybe but your your running epi so unless you have a bad experience (I did) with it and need to take action the form will be more than enough especially if your running DTHC with it. lol...It'll work just fine dog:thumbsup: (are you using dthc?)
 
GMG760 said:
I'll email you some of my more fun shoots Heavies. I think you'll be proud of what I do for a living.
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hey, don't forget to share!
 
BlackSheep said:
^^This is a good fcuking post so reconise bitxhes!!:thumbsup:^^
I know guys who run Test at ridiculas doses for extended periods (more than 12-14weeks) and come of with nolva/clomid only and recover just fine.

GMG bro if you gotz da formadrol already fcuking run that, this sht ain't splitting atoms. 6oxo might be better,...maybe but your your running epi so unless you have a bad experience (I did) with it and need to take action the form will be more than enough especially if your running DTHC with it. lol...It'll work just fine dog:thumbsup: (are you using dthc?)
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DITFVCKINGTO..............it ain't fvcking rocket science.
 
heavies said:
DITFVCKINGTO..............it ain't fvcking rocket science.
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Yes I am running Tamox and DTHC. I have a bottle of PCS and a bottle of formadrol. My very first post has my supplement info. I thought I was going to run the formadrol in a previous mmv2 m1d cycle, but ended up using APCT. Most people run an ATD during PCT, except I knew that this already was an AI... so I was kinda confused. You guys gotta remember that I haven't done this before, and reading this sh*t ain't doing this sh*t so give me a break on erring on the side of caution this time around. I figure asking even if you don't need it is better than being arrogant when you might need advice.

Anyway...

Holy fvcking sh!t I got a monster of a workout today. I can honestly say that I feel the epi. Today was my first dose at 30mg, I dosed 10mg in the morning and then 20mg prior to my workout this afternoon... I felt it creep up on me at home as I was getting my shaker bottles ready for the gym. All of a sudden I was just fvcking amped. It took me right back to one of my BEST days on MMV2. and I was dosing that sh!t high!... Had a great chest workout for me... went pretty heavy for myself, and had no spotter... I broke all my PR's last week with a spotter... which makes me think he might have been giving me some help and just telling me that it was all me... whatever, I am growing like a weed and today was all on me... not even a liftoff. My triceps and chest are PUMPED. Like to the point of popping. My triceps actually hurt... I like the pumped feeling, but jebus... My tris just look big and swollen... I cant even flex the fvckers.

Oh yea... did I mention I weighed in at 189 today?! FVCK YEA B!TCHES! Thats 8 lbs in 7 days. I know it ain't all muscle but I am still stoked! Goin in the right direction! If I hit 200lbs I would sh*t myself.

Ok, onto the workout.

Chest
BB Bench - 135x6, 185x4, 225x4, 245x3 (no spot PR), 185x8, 135x10
DB Incline - 70x6, 80x6, 90x4, 75x8... no set up/spot... I think I could have done even better.
Incline Fly - 35x10, 45x10, 55x8
Dips - 3 sets of 20 bodyweight

Triceps
Incline SkullCrushers - 35's x10, 40sx10, 45sx6
Superset with
close grip bench - same weight/reps
v grip tricep pressdowns - 140x10x4sets
straight bar pressdown -140x10x3 sets
superset with
reverse grip - 100x6, 80x10, 80x10

I walked out of the gym with my arms hanging like I was a monkey or something... I gave today my absolute best and had no spots. I couldn't be happier. Did I mention the pump yet... jesus h christ...:thumbsup:

Oh yea...

DOOM CREW!!!! *rick flair voice* WHOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!! lmao!
 
GMG760 said:
Yes I am running Tamox and DTHC. I have a bottle of PCS and a bottle of formadrol. My very first post has my supplement info. I thought I was going to run the formadrol in a previous mmv2 m1d cycle, but ended up using APCT. Most people run an ATD during PCT, except I knew that this already was an AI... so I was kinda confused. You guys gotta remember that I haven't done this before, and reading this sh*t ain't doing this sh*t so give me a break on erring on the side of caution this time around. I figure asking even if you don't need it is better than being arrogant when you might need advice.

Oh yea... did I mention I weighed in at 189 today?! FVCK YEA B!TCHES! Thats 8 lbs in 7 days. I know it ain't all muscle but I am still stoked! Goin in the right direction! If I hit 200lbs I would sh*t myself.


DOOM CREW!!!! *rick flair voice* WHOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!! lmao!
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Great workout, and fvck everybody thats the DOOM CREW way, even me...........hahahahahahah you run what the fvck you wanna run and let everybody else deal wid it.......I was trying to demystify this sh!t But in the end it don't matter.....
 
heavies said:
Great workout, and fvck everybody thats the DOOM CREW way, even me...........hahahahahahah you run what the fvck you wanna run and let everybody else deal wid it.......I was trying to demystify this sh!t But in the end it don't matter.....
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Agreed dude. FTW.

But you guys are my bros, I appreciate the advice, I'll probably get my sh!t down to a science soon. But for this first one, I made sure to have all the goodies to put my mind at ease, which is the right place to get BIGGER!!!!

And that's the bottom line, because the DOOM CREW said so!... I wish I could have the oldschool Stone Cold Steve Austin WWF (this was before the WWE) intro play everytime I walked into a room... Just a big ol' crash of broken glass and that heavy guitar riff... lmao! It would kick so much ass...
 
GMG760 said:
Yes I am running Tamox and DTHC. I have a bottle of PCS and a bottle of formadrol. My very first post has my supplement info. I thought I was going to run the formadrol in a previous mmv2 m1d cycle, but ended up using APCT. Most people run an ATD during PCT, except I knew that this already was an AI... so I was kinda confused. You guys gotta remember that I haven't done this before, and reading this sh*t ain't doing this sh*t so give me a break on erring on the side of caution this time around. I figure asking even if you don't need it is better than being arrogant when you might need advice.

Anyway...

Holy fvcking sh!t I got a monster of a workout today. I can honestly say that I feel the epi. Today was my first dose at 30mg, I dosed 10mg in the morning and then 20mg prior to my workout this afternoon... I felt it creep up on me at home as I was getting my shaker bottles ready for the gym. All of a sudden I was just fvcking amped. It took me right back to one of my BEST days on MMV2. and I was dosing that sh!t high!... Had a great chest workout for me... went pretty heavy for myself, and had no spotter... I broke all my PR's last week with a spotter... which makes me think he might have been giving me some help and just telling me that it was all me... whatever, I am growing like a weed and today was all on me... not even a liftoff. My triceps and chest are PUMPED. Like to the point of popping. My triceps actually hurt... I like the pumped feeling, but jebus... My tris just look big and swollen... I cant even flex the fvckers.

Oh yea... did I mention I weighed in at 189 today?! FVCK YEA B!TCHES! Thats 8 lbs in 7 days. I know it ain't all muscle but I am still stoked! Goin in the right direction! If I hit 200lbs I would sh*t myself.

Ok, onto the workout.

Chest
BB Bench - 135x6, 185x4, 225x4, 245x3 (no spot PR), 185x8, 135x10
DB Incline - 70x6, 80x6, 90x4, 75x8... no set up/spot... I think I could have done even better.
Incline Fly - 35x10, 45x10, 55x8
Dips - 3 sets of 20 bodyweight

Triceps
Incline SkullCrushers - 35's x10, 40sx10, 45sx6
Superset with
close grip bench - same weight/reps
v grip tricep pressdowns - 140x10x4sets
straight bar pressdown -140x10x3 sets
superset with
reverse grip - 100x6, 80x10, 80x10

I walked out of the gym with my arms hanging like I was a monkey or something... I gave today my absolute best and had no spots. I couldn't be happier. Did I mention the pump yet... jesus h christ...:thumbsup:

Oh yea...

DOOM CREW!!!! *rick flair voice* WHOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!! lmao!
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Nice workout bro! And that earns you this right here. It's not WWF, but I think you'll see why I chose it.
[ame="http://youtube.com/watch?v=xpDMzj1tc44&feature=related"]YouTube - WOOOOOOO[/ame]
 
GMG760 said:
Oh yea... did I mention I weighed in at 189 today?! FVCK YEA B!TCHES! Thats 8 lbs in 7 days. I know it ain't all muscle but I am still stoked! Goin in the right direction! If I hit 200lbs I would sh*t myself.
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Bro, have you a pair of clean underwear ready!! And preparest to sh*t thyself!! It WILL happen!! Eat big, train big, and fukkin' be big!! That's the DOOM CREW way of life brethren!! And all the people shouted, "AMEN"!! :head:
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