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What's your favorite cissus?

Which cissus do you prefer?

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USPlabs SuperCissus Rx.

Even before i was a rep, i was a user. Great product for tendon and ligament strength and recovery.
 
Went with primaforce, generally cheaper on the web, and a much higher % ketosterones. (Plus I have a lot of faith in Primaforce and Scivation, I use many of their products and am loyal to their line for my bcaa/eaa's and other staple supps, and their customer service is second to none in my experience)
 
I voted primaforce for the price and I felt the most relief from their product than any other. USP Bulk Super would be second, but I think their capped version is overpriced when compared to competition. And I agree with above poster... Their customer service can not be touched... Marc has hooked me up a bunch of times whenever I had any issues at all. All around top notch company.
 
USP Labs!

great product and they take great care of their customers!

I've been debating getting a capping kit and buying the bulk form...
joebo, do you cap it or just add it to a shake?
 
delsolrob said:
USP Labs!

great product and they take great care of their customers!

I've been debating getting a capping kit and buying the bulk form...
joebo, do you cap it or just add it to a shake?
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i would not recommend trying to take cissus uncapped, even in a shake. it completely destroys the taste of anything its added to and make me wanna puke. cap it ;)
 
lol, figured as much...
 
I just put a 1/4tsp on my tongue and chase it down with my morning shake and again in the evening. Just don't close your mouth prior to drinking something. The cissus will actually kind of float and once your get the hang of it, it just flows right down and you taste nothing.
 
bulk powders from trueprotein.com :p

initially I used super cissus rx though.

you are a pussy and softcore BB if taste matters to you. :p

my tendon concoction i brew 6 times per day (since having surgery on pec with donor tendons holding my pec to the humerous!)
consists of 1 tsp cissus, 1 tsp AAKG, 1/3 tsp vit c powder, 1/4 tsp beta alinine, 1 tsp glucosamine powder, 1 tsp MSM powder and 1 tsp edible gelatin. throw in some grape juice and down she goes. lovely, NOT!!!!
 
Incarnate is certainly good too, I actually just got one of those instead of a primaforce as i needed BA and my knees been F'ed up from a drunken spill months back on my 21st.
 
cissus from primaforce and all the tendinitis go way :thumbsup:
I also look forward to try the new osteo-sport from AN:
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this product looks solid,it also use a high extract cissus (40% Phytosterols)and a lot of other goodies,like glucosamine, I believe this product can replace a stack like the animalflex + cissus.
of course I didn't vote this last one cause its a new product and I still haven't tried it


now about your pool poison, I found it very disrespectful, if you have any problem with me you have 2 options, PM to clarify or never mention my name in your posts or threads again, please don't mention my name anymore and keep your poison and frustrations to yourself, grow up man
 
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I forgot to add Incarnate, which I actually like a lot.

nunes, no 'offense' was meant, it was simply off-kilter humor. I'm not offended that you called me a shill, implied I'm a moron, or ignored everyone's logical explanations in the course of the discussion. It's the freakin net. I just find it funny, and a little frustrating, that you use a particular cissus based on anecdotal evidence and the recommendation of Flex, but require studies proving an alternate product is as good or better; this on a herb which has zero studies on its effectiveness for joints in English. I know English isn't your first language, but I don't think comprehension is your problem. ;)

Bottom line: take what you like. Next time, why don't you try both products before dissing one. I did. ;)


Holy crap, I can't believe I'm defending/pimping Jacobs product so much. :confused:

:lol:
 
poison said:
I forgot to add Incarnate, which I actually like a lot.

nunes, no 'offense' was meant, it was simply off-kilter humor. I'm not offended that you called me a shill, implied I'm a moron, or ignored everyone's logical explanations in the course of the discussion. It's the freakin net. I just find it funny, and a little frustrating, that you use a particular cissus based on anecdotal evidence and the recommendation of Flex, but require studies proving an alternate product is as good or better; this on a herb which has zero studies on its effectiveness for joints in English. I know English isn't your first language, but I don't think comprehension is your problem. ;)

Bottom line: take what you like. Next time, why don't you try both products before dissing one. I did. ;)


Holy crap, I can't believe I'm defending/pimping Jacobs product so much. :confused:

:lol:
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look poison , lets get this thing straight once and for all cause I`ll not enter another e-fight about cissus, I just post my opinion and that's all,
In the first place I never said usp cissus was bad, in fact I said on the thread you mention that it was the first cissus I had and I liked it, it worked, the problem is that after that I tried the prima higher extract and guess what, I liked even more that USP, so I have experience with both products not just anecdotal evidence from magazines, of course everybody is different and what is good for me may not be the best for others but in my case the higher extracts work better

In the second place the fight on that thread began when a statement was made saying that "the lower extracts are better for joint aid", well this is an unproven statement , mullet posted that usp based their product in studies with the lower extracts, ok , so they work but as I said there's no comparative studies between higher and lower extracts so there's no way to see what works best, at least on the paper

To finish and as you suggest and I also said it in the thread you mention , so we agree in this point, people should try both and see whats better for them, in my case I personally fell better with the higher extract and I don't care about the cost but I respect if you say you prefer the lower .
I hope that this post clarify this all drama cause for me it is over
 
I like how someone changed my poll. :lol:

I should've made it "what's your favorite cissus for joint issues?".
 
borobulker said:
I am not downing PAL at all but Incarnate did absolutely nothing for me. No BA tingle, no relief... I even upped to 1.5x rec dose.
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just FYI... some people will never experience the tingle... and the tingle is from beta alanine, not cissus.
Also, the tingle is not a sign that the product is working or not working.... if youve taken BA in the past (which is in most pre workout supps), you are unlikely to feel anything.
 
I liked Incarnate as well- especially for endurance, believe it or not- and I got a pretty good tingle from it, especially if I took it in the AM on an empty stomach...

I have used all of the above products (USP Labs and ANI) except for Primaforce- and all worked extremely well for joints....

I remember when we first started importing Cissus for USP Labs in late 2004- we had to go through several different suppliers to get anything that wasn't an absolute sticky mess- the quality, availiability and effectiveness of the extracts has improved about 1000% since then...
 
rms80 said:
I remember when we first started importing Cissus for USP Labs in late 2004- we had to go through several different suppliers to get anything that wasn't an absolute sticky mess- the quality, availiability and effectiveness of the extracts has improved about 1000% since then...
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I think everyone experienced this in the beginning. Our second batch of Incarnate did more damage to one of the machines than you can imagine. The repair cost 10's of thousands of dollars.
 
Palo Alto Labs said:
I think everyone experienced this in the beginning. Our second batch of Incarnate did more damage to one of the machines than you can imagine. The repair cost 10's of thousands of dollars.
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I def. can imagine- I have run across some of the same issues during MFG.- you were using 20% extract, right? 40% doesn't really have many issues, but I have seen some material issues with the 20% and lower. When we do our sampling for the testing of quarantined raw materials, you can pretty much tell how it is going to be (at least as far as texture and MFG. feasibility), even before you test it.....

Some of the 5% extracts we have run through our machine have been fairly sticky, and, even in low ambient humidity, can start to gum up the capsule moulds, hoppers, and pin ejectors during production, mostly due to pressure during the process- secret is low capsule count batches for products like this- we try to limit these to under 100K caps at a time....most of the other stuff you can run half a million or more, with no issues.....
 
rms80 said:
I def. can imagine- I have run across some of the same issues during MFG.- you were using 20% extract, right? 40% doesn't really have many issues, but I have seen some material issues with the 20% and lower. When we do our sampling for the testing of quarantined raw materials, you can pretty much tell how it is going to be (at least as far as texture and MFG. feasibility), even before you test it.....

Some of the 5% extracts we have run through our machine have been fairly sticky, and, even in low ambient humidity, can start to gum up the capsule moulds, hoppers, and pin ejectors during production, mostly due to pressure during the process- secret is low capsule count batches for products like this- we try to limit these to under 100K caps at a time....most of the other stuff you can run half a million or more, with no issues.....
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depends on the extract and the supplier- some of the 5% extract we have gotten is not very hygroscopic at all- but material we have gotten from other suppliers will literally make you stick to the floor :(
 
Ive taken the usplabs for injurys from football with no improvement or help at all. Im running a sponsored log on osteo sport right now and im on day seven now and havent noticed anything. Im not sold on cissus at all as of now for sports injuries....
 
I'm trying osteo sport now and I like it a lot too!

when I piss my shoulder off I get faster recovery on OS over straight cissus...both really help though!

also, stacking either of these products with fish oil is great! the synergy of the fish oil and cissus/OS works well!
 
joebo said:
I just put a 1/4tsp on my tongue and chase it down with my morning shake and again in the evening. Just don't close your mouth prior to drinking something. The cissus will actually kind of float and once your get the hang of it, it just flows right down and you taste nothing.
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is the best time to take it in the morning?
 
which is better for lower back pains (feels like a vice tightening, especially when I run) also for my knees? Seems like I need both as one is better for joints vs muscles and tendons. Thanks for any input.
 
I have tried USPLabs and Primaforce. Both worked but I have to go with Primaforce only because its less expensive.

OK, I have to add to this. I will always go with a bargain if I can, however as I have found out, sometimes you get what you pay for. I tried the USPLabs Super CissusRX, the Primaforce and lately tried 1Fast400 bulk. Here is what I noticed; the Super Cissus RX worked well, within 24 hours it completely eliminated my shoulder pain. With the same amount of Primaforce I started having a little pain and had to take even more of it to get the same results. With the even less expensive 1Fast400 bulk, I am constantly in mild pain. I have had to even double the dose just to get relief.

My wife and I both are using the same products and we both agreed that we got much better results with the USPLabs Super Cissus RX than either of the others. While it cost more you have to use more of the others and still we didn't get the same results. When I get home today I am going to order 200g's of the Bulk Super Cissus RX. Man, it kind of fun making your own caps anyway!
 
I believe the app. nutraceutials is a great cissus too , the problem is that is still very soon to the product have a decent number of fans
 
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