Whats the hype?.... Test E sucks

Update

alright guys i switched enanthates and its been about a week... i definently seem to feel a difference (in pain and strength) i say pain because this stuff hurts like a biotch after injection, feels like someone braud sided me with a fukin baseball bat in the ass. anyway ive had explosive workouts since..
im guessing my last stuff was "underdosed" and not fake. reason being that the new stuff kicked in right away and i dont think this would of happend unless i already had a low dose of test e in me...so my question... how long should i remain on the new stuff?... its my 8th week
 
12 more weeks. a long cycle imho is a long cycle. you're going to be shutdown in your 16th week just like your 20th. stay on 20.
 
orangutan said:
alright guys i switched enanthates and its been about a week... i definently seem to feel a difference (in pain and strength) i say pain because this stuff hurts like a biotch after injection, feels like someone braud sided me with a fukin baseball bat in the ass. anyway ive had explosive workouts since..
im guessing my last stuff was "underdosed" and not fake. reason being that the new stuff kicked in right away and i dont think this would of happend unless i already had a low dose of test e in me...so my question... how long should i remain on the new stuff?... its my 8th week
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Let us know weekly how you are doing - Strength/weight.
 
Gixxer82 said:
You could be right, maybe, just maybe, some people's bodies will metabolize the ester quicker than others. I never looked into it.
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Have you ever drawn Cyp into a syringe?

Ever draw prop into a syringe of the same size?

Which one takes longer to draw? (hint hint, it has nothing to with hepatic metabolism) ;)
 
nosnmiveins said:
everyone reacts differently, but if its size ur looking for then up ur cals, maybe u need 4500 calories to grow. try that out and see what happens. if nothing happens then ur gear is probably garbage
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said he takes in roughly 4000 calories. I doubt he's truely logging what he eats. so telling him to eat 4500 isn't helpin him if he's really only getting in 3200. weight gain on test E is almost entirely diet related. true story.
 
Behemoth1 said:
said he takes in roughly 4000 calories. I doubt he's truely logging what he eats. so telling him to eat 4500 isn't helpin him if he's really only getting in 3200. weight gain on test E is almost entirely diet related. true story.
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i agree. i was just giving an example. it really pisses me off when ppl come in here and say theyre eating 4000+ calories when they are really only getting about 2500.

if diet is "on point" then post what it is
 
Gixxer82 said:
Yes, i've drawn both into a syringe. I've in fact drawn cyp that was way smoother than prop and vice versa, so please further explain. I even have some t600 that is like water. ;)


Remember, you're not talking to a noob here :)
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Longer chain carboxylates (i.e. esters) lead to a higher viscosity. You inject the steroid in your muscle, and it takes a longer time to diffuse into the bloodstream.
 
nosnmiveins said:
i agree. i was just giving an example. it really pisses me off when ppl come in here and say theyre eating 4000+ calories when they are really only getting about 2500.

if diet is "on point" then post what it is
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Yep diet logging is very very important bulk or cut I log every meal as i eat it so I know exactly where I am at and can adjust. but i'm on a cut so adjusting is a little more important but it's still important to know your macros, total calories, calories burned etc.
 
Gixxer82 said:
I know this. For the sake of not argueing I said 'maybe, just maybe someone can metabolize the ester quicker than others'
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That's what I mean. Even if it metabolizes at a more efficient rate, it's not going to do anything because it's still in the spot where you've injected it.
 
...Am I the only one who would think that prop as a first would be a good thing?

-You get used to pins pretty quickly
-You feel it within a few days, so if you have fake or underdosed stuff, you can change right away
-You get used to pain (of course, depends on the brand)
-It works pretty darn well, and if sides occur, it's gone within 3 days
 
Prop is something that can be used solo for a first cycle IMO. If it's legit, and top quality, I beleive most will see really good results. 184 lbs to 227 is not bad right? :D

Anything more makes the blood pressure go way up, and the face turns purple. Not fun.
 
jjohn said:
Prop is something that can be used solo for a first cycle IMO. If it's legit, and top quality, I beleive most will see really good results. 184 lbs to 227 is not bad right? :D

Anything more makes the blood pressure go way up, and the face turns purple. Not fun.
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what, in how many weeks of prop? Sounds like a blubbery bulk.
 
monsterbox said:
yea..no way in hell strength went up accordingly to 40+lbs...ud have to be benching twice as much lol
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This is not strength gain, it's weight gain..

I was finished with my cut at a ripped 184 prepping for a show when I decided I wouldn't make it.

I started a bulk and from November 1st til now.. I'm sitting at 227.
 
pistonpump said:
jjohn.....u fell to the darkside.... and here i was thinking of you as my hero jjohn skywalker. what a shame. :(
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Haha. I wanted to know what all the fuss was about. Now I know. It's most likely going to beaone time thing. Plus working with MN, I kinda had to know how it feels like :P
 
jjohn said:
Haha. I wanted to know what all the fuss was about. Now I know. It's most likely going to beaone time thing. Plus working with MN, I kinda had to know how it feels like :P
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haha, that happens to alot of people. One time???? pssssh! yeah right, we shall see. What does working with MN have to do with it? What is MN's tie to steroids?

So is that a real pic of you in your avy? i thought it was photoshop to be honest. If its you my apologies.
 
"one time thing" ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha....AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA

sorry i almost just had a heart attack laughing so hard. or it could be from the amount of gear i'm on. i once said the same thing btw :D
 
pistonpump said:
haha, that happens to alot of people. One time???? pssssh! yeah right, we shall see. What does working with MN have to do with it? What is MN's tie to steroids?

So is that a real pic of you in your avy? i thought it was photoshop to be honest. If its you my apologies.
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Haha, I was kidding.. Now I can compare X Factor with real gear :P

Yeah it's me.. Little water retention though but oh well..
 
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