I think Nolva's a little too much. I'll probably go with just R-Xt and Retain.
I think it all depends on your cycle if you use more suppressive compounds at a longer increament then i would add nolva,but i have run two cycles and just used Rebound and retain and had good results,but i still keep nolva on hand just incase gyno symptoms occur.I read in some other post that this guy used all three at high dosages and got hard sides. If I keep them at a low dose I think I'll be ok.
It was a 4 weeker of PP at 30 mgs a day,I kept 90% of my gains and strength,and had no signs of gyno,but i still had Nolva on hand just in case.^^ what was your cycle and how long did you run it for? I think anything over 4 weeks should require some sort of sert but PP is mild and I had no signs of gyno, no pain in the nips or anything to that. My nuts seem normal... but maybe I'll run all, always better to be safe than sorry.
Brand of Nolva?Yeah that would be against the rules,it doesn't really matter anyway as long as it is nolva.ya I have some on hand. which brand did u guys use?
Check out IBE. They are a board sponsor here.ya I thought it wasn't allowed... Well thanks for the input guys
I have to agree with you there.i completely disagree with the nolva is the only way to go comment. the most successful pct's ive had have been SERM free. i agree nolva is useful and is sometimes needed, but if you dont need it, why take it? i am a fan of the ATD only pct for use with most of the new designer orals. when you bring up dbol and anadrol, thats a different story.
I emailed IBE and they haven't emailed me back. It's been a week now and I had some important questions pertaining measurements since their droppers don't have measurements.Check out IBE. They are a board sponsor here.
I kinda like DS's lean extreme better than retain,retain made me get heart palpatations,Also IBE has a contact number on this board under their forum ,it is easier to contact them that way.what I don't get is that no one made a comment on Retain. I might as well try it no?
Get a baby dropper at Walmart. What is listed on their bottle, is what the dose actually is. There is no conversion i.e. 20 mg equating to 1.5 ml etc.... Was that your question?:think:I emailed IBE and they haven't emailed me back. It's been a week now and I had some important questions pertaining measurements since their droppers don't have measurements.
I do the same with my nips. Did you use anything while taking SD for lethargy. I'm trying to find something that helps me combat that flu feeling. And yes my Carbs were high last time so that's not the problem. May just have to live with it and get huge.I ran about 6 weeks with PP and SD I went with Nolva for the first two weeks with rebound XT and stopped Nolva after week two. I got a some bad headaches but no gyno as of yet. I still have it and play with my boobs often to make sure everything feels normal.
it will probably hurt your strength gains since PP is an androgenic compound. i think most of the strength is estrogen related due to the water retention and all that good stuff. as for the pct protocol 3/3/2/1, that should work, maybe do the first few days at 4Would running one cap a day of rebound during a PP cycle hurt any? If I was going to use ATD only, would 3/3/2/1 be good enough?
I emailed IBE and they haven't emailed me back. It's been a week now and I had some important questions pertaining measurements since their droppers don't have measurements.
Drugs store same thing though:trout:ya I did that, thanks though sogone. Did u get ur froms walmart?
On that PP cheat sheet thing, it says to use finerstade or spiro topical. I had the question if finerstade will help at all? people were saying that PP doesn't convert to DHT. But spiro topical would be the better choice since it blocks different types of androgens at the scalp. I'm not sure on this topic maybe someone could clarify this.Weird but I did notice a change in my hairline SERIOUSLY and my hair is really healthy thick, MPB. This is after a PP cycle. So for anyone who says it doesn't affect the hair, I say it does!@!@
Cool. Pardon my ignorance PVSkyHigh :blink: I'm unfamiliar with Lean Xtreme. Seems to be similar to Retain judging by the product write-up I just read? (I already have a bottle of Retain.)Some may think this is overkill, but this is the post cycle therapy I ran on my last cycle of superdrol and the same post cycle therapy I plan on running this cycle. Nolva, ActivaTe, Lean Extreme, fenugreek, zma and all ancillary supps. Libido was back within two weeks full force and at the end of my 3rd week of post cycle therapy my blood work came back outstanding.
I also did not use Rebound XT. With all of the delayed gyno that has happened with superdrol, I stay away from the AI and went with the tried and true.
Ya, Lean Xtreme is the same as Retain. Thanks for the reps.Cool. Pardon my ignorance PVSkyHigh :blink: I'm unfamiliar with Lean Xtreme. Seems to be similar to Retain judging by the product write-up I just read? (I already have a bottle of Retain.)
Sounds like I will be OK without the Rebound too, especially since PP isn't supposed to aromatize, and will be solid with Nolva, Retain, fenu, dhea, support supps.
I need to investigate the ActivaTe. SO many people seem to use it.
who makes it?Now that Restore is out, I would/will be running the following after my PP standalone:
-SERM (Nolva or Tom)
-Restore
-Fenu
-Maybe DHEA
I think Restore is going to find it's way into alot of people's post cycle therapy's...
alriwho makes it?
i have a question for the generic labz sponsor, do you know if an anti-estrogen testosterone booster works just as well during an anabolic cycle and if it does wouldn't that mean you don't need to continue that type of product after the cyle? Maybe just a liver support supplement? if anyone one else knows the answer to this feel free to reply thanks guys.Nolva is always THE choice for any post cycle therapy. Adding rebound or retain are just additional little enhancements.