what to get? newbie.

jeep69

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Alright guys, my homeboy is headin down south next week and I am going to have him pick me up some stuff. Only question is, I am a steroid newbie and I am not sure what to get.
I am not GOING to use it for about a year, but this will be the best chance I have to get any and I am going to take advantage of it. SO I am going to search the board and look at the steroid posts like crazy and research, but I wanted your imput as well. I think I read that every cycle should be test based so I was thinking mabye a test and deca cycle, I want something that would be easy on the hairline and minimal side but pretty decent gains. keep in mind I am going to research and do the appropiate measure before I use, that wont be for a good while but I need some help ASAP in deciding what to get and at what quantity.
If you dont mind also include the price at what I would normally pay for these down there, I trust my friend and I dont think he would rip me off but ya never know!

AGAin, thanks for any imput you all have!!
 
test and deca are good investments, but be wary of fakes. if you're getting brovel, look for a hologram sticker, not a silver sticker. the other brands i'm not sure of, QV is good if you get the real thing. personally, i wouldn't risk bringing anything across the border. there's plenty of good domestic sources out there.
 
I just saw that thread of Big cats in the sticky section, man that is going to help out alot, that is awsome!!!
 
Glad you're searching, reading, etc ;)

Anyway, the newbie / "bread and butter stack" is Test + D-Bol + Deca. Can't go wrong with that.

4 weeks of d-bol @ 30mg/day
10-12 weeks of both Deca and Test
-500mg/week of Test (split up between two shots)
-250-500mg/week of Deca (split up between two shots)

Make sure you have a proper PCT and an anti-e for during the cycle in case of gyno. i.e. Nolva...........keep researching.
 
The reson test only is good is simple. If he has sides how does he know which compound is causing it.
 
MMA said:
The reson test only is good is simple. If he has sides how does he know which compound is causing it.
This is what I've always been my feelings on it as well. At the most, maybe add some Dbol the first 3-4 weeks to jumpstart.

Test E or cyp should be just fine though.

That's just me though.
-2z-
 
do it right but do it smartly too.

I would run test only. If everything else is in order he'll gain very well on it. No need to stack things in a first or second cycle in my opinion.

KISS.
 
Get

deca, test, Eq, stanozolol, d-bol. Pct stuff. Clenbuterol/Ephedrine will be useful if you try to do cutting after your cycle.
 
definitely just go with test e or cyp for 12 weeks you DO NOT need anything more and you want to see how you react

you COULD add 4 weeks of dbol, other than that just run test
 
pjsallday said:
What gains can be expected from a first time test e 12 weeker?
I am 5'10" 185 lbs
a LOT ;) Not all will be LBM, but it will be a lot. I just had a buddy complete his first 12 weeker and he kept 30lbs. He put on a little fat though.
 
Well my diet is and has been clean for some time now. I am current running a 1test 4ad cycle and I am at 350gms of protein 400 carbs
100 gms of fat all clean. Mostly chicken breast, turkey burgers, tuna, brown rice veggies.
 
Good post very edifying for newbie thanks all ph Gods for searing your expirees. I been doing lots of reading lately and searching


net for any decent source but there is lots of bogus site can’t trust got burn in past. Besides getting more risky on the net…


Keep helping newcomer nice forum btw to expand knowledge .....

Maakx:cheers:
 
go with test e. If you must use something else on your first cycle throw in some dbol.
Make sure u have nolva for post cycle, you may also want some adex to help with bloat.
I also recommend that you look into liver protection ie... milk thistle, nac
It is refreshing to hear that a newbie is actually doing his research however.
good luck.
 
hey guys, I want to thank everyone of you for replying, I have been reading and researching like crazy so in the future when I am about to start my cycle I might have some more questions, I talked to my bud and he and some others are going down there to get alot of stuff, So I am not going to have him specifically get me anything. He said he was going to pick up alot of Test so I might buy some of that off of him when he gets back, dont know yet, still more research to do! I just heard he was going down there and that little voice inside me sparked up saying" this might be the only opportunity to get it, so take advantage of it" I have since calmed down and returned to normal :-)

I definately wont start for at lest 8 months or so or mabye longer, I have made some tremendous gains in the past months naturally and who knows, In a year I might have gained 10 or 20 lbs naturally, that is what I would prefer. I am trying to gain as much naturally as I can to see what works for my body, diet and training wise so If I do ever choose to use it will be that much more effective. I have learned so much about my body I almost feel I have already won!!
On that note anybody that knows anyplace that has some good research info on it please let me know( other websites, books, etc...) I just dont want to read bullshit info if ya know what I mean!
Thanks again
 
does anyone have that ebook download site still? with the adobe steriod books? I don't seam to be able to find it.

here is one link with a colection of the best info

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BTW if the price is right don't be afread of having your bro pick up the following:

Test cyp, e or deca (neo test)
EQ
Deca
Dbol
These are the base of almost all cycles and you can use them sooner or latter. getting things domestically is usually far harder and more exspensive. JM2C
 
Skye said:
does anyone have that ebook download site still? with the adobe steriod books? I don't seam to be able to find it.

This may not be what you're talking about, but I got mine out of this guys yahoo briefcase.
Here's the thread:

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Lot's of ebooks, you just have to dig through the breifcase.

-2z-
 
-2z- said:
This may not be what you're talking about, but I got mine out of this guys yahoo briefcase.
Here's the thread:

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Lot's of ebooks, you just have to dig through the breifcase.

-2z-
that is what I was thinking of . thank you, that would be perfect for him.
 
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