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What laxagenin and epicatechin product to run.

210LBS said:
Could you elaborate? Which products did you try and what we're your results?
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OL Str3ngth Unleashed was the laxo product I ran. Used 4-5 caps a day. Muscles felt fuller and rounder all throughout the time I was on. I would be making this a staple if I had the money honestly.
 
123abcabcabc said:
OL Str3ngth Unleashed was the laxo product I ran. Used 4-5 caps a day. Muscles felt fuller and rounder all throughout the time I was on. I would be making this a staple if I had the money honestly.
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Thanks. 5 caps a day? That would get you only 12 days? That really is expensive!
 
Plenty of good laxo and epi(-) dual products in here already.

If just a pure epi(-) standalone, CEL EpiPlex is the most affordable Epi(-) product on the market.
 
It seems like 5a-OH Lax and Epi are still gaining some popularity! I guess ill chime in.. I used the OL Derma Strength and Ep1c Unleashed transdermal with great success. Seemed to have great synergism. They were the first transdermal product i've used, then followed up with IL Invictus (which was TD too). The only thing is that both lasted around ~28 days instead of 30 days, but of course that could be attributed to the user (me :D).
 
Mister_T_ said:
I'm surprised no one has recommended LEGENDARY by Chaos & Pain.

Yes it looks under dosed (which will raise the price per cycle a bit) compared to some other products but I will say that at 4-5 caps a day... it works very good!

I just finished a bottle of Hercules at 5 caps a day (Sparta) it was good but not "Great"

Aldo I have used EPG Laxozome...this one was indeed a waste of time.
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Interesting...because EPG is a great company, their Ostalean is incredible.
 
Yeah agreed, I just don't feel my muscles responded as well to it compared to legendary. Legendary would noticeably make me feel a bit more full and hard. just the way I like it.
 
LeanEngineer said:
A good laxo and epi product is anafuse. It has both of these ingredients in it. Best results would be to pick up two bottles and run it back to back.
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Definitely have to agree here, I just picked up 2 bottles of anafuse, a tub of creatine and daa max test booster! Super excited to run this for the second time as I had great benefits from just taking Anafuse alone last time.
 
Thanks for the Str3ngth and Ep1c love! Another great thing about these products is OL's HPLC testing to ensure ingredient purity.

dannykray said:
Yeah I'm going to do triumph and alphamax for 8 weeks and maybe around week 6 or 7 throw in laxo, and epi
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This sounds like a great plan.
 
I began a stack of both Ep1c and Str3ngth five weeks ago. For me I began to see results at the 3 week mark (stronger, leaner, more vascular). Others have taken notice. Because I'm taking the 2 products together, I'm not able to gauge which of the two is more or less responsible for the results. In any event I felt compelled to run this for another 30 days, despite the cost. That's the "bad" news -- I'm seeing results so now my supplement budget has to absorb an additional $100 a month.
 
I'd love to try one of these "natural anabolics" but I'm just so skeptical. Anyone know of any reliable logs on epi and/or laxo with detailed lifts and before and after pics.
 
Misfit28 said:
Check out CEL Epi-Plex, affordable and non proprietary blend.
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I've seen Epi-Plex and I'm a big CEL/SNS fan. Opening up my second bottle of M-Test and really enjoying it. I just question all of the epi and laxo products. The results I've seen are rather mixed.
 
bigsmall said:
Folidrone 2.0 numerous logs.
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I will go through some of the detailed ones with pics. By the way, you pitch Follidrone 2.0 more than anyone else I've seen on this forum and I don't think I've seen you spell it right once.
 
slickwillie said:
I began a stack of both Ep1c and Str3ngth five weeks ago. For me I began to see results at the 3 week mark (stronger, leaner, more vascular). Others have taken notice. Because I'm taking the 2 products together, I'm not able to gauge which of the two is more or less responsible for the results. In any event I felt compelled to run this for another 30 days, despite the cost. That's the "bad" news -- I'm seeing results so now my supplement budget has to absorb an additional $100 a month.
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Haha, I know the feeling. I too, ran these together: Dermastrength and Ep1c Unleashed caps (my fav combo) and got some surprising results in body composition. I also noticed some unexpected joint pain relief which I suspect came from the DermaStrength. I keep meaning to try them solo to observe their individual effects, but knowing what the combo did makes it hard to not run them together each time. For what it's worth though, you can get them for ~$35ea if you plan for the sales and stock up at the right times. I saw even better results at 5+ weeks in, so I'm interested to hear what you think at that point. :)

210LBS said:
I just question all of the epi and laxo products. The results I've seen are rather mixed.
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I understand. I myself was/am a big skeptic of most natural "anabolics", but there's two things to consider:

1. Does the product have an intelligently designed delivery system? (Not all absorption enhancers are created equal)

2. Subjectivity abounds. I have seen a wide variety of reports on these ingredients from people I trust. For me, I saw enough compelling evidence to try each for myself. There are some ingredients/products that I'll never, ever spend money on, but with these I was willing to give them a chance and see if I was a "responder" (an oversimplified term, to be sure, but you get the point). I am personally glad I did.
 
Lynks8 said:
Haha, I know the feeling. I too, ran these together: Dermastrength and Ep1c Unleashed caps (my fav combo) and got some surprising results in body composition. I also noticed some unexpected joint pain relief which I suspect came from the DermaStrength. I keep meaning to try them solo to observe their individual effects, but knowing what the combo did makes it hard to not run them together each time. For what it's worth though, you can get them for ~$35ea if you plan for the sales and stock up at the right times. I saw even better results at 5+ weeks in, so I'm interested to hear what you think at that point. :)

I'm still rocking and rolling with this stack after 15 weeks now. No plans to stop. Waiting on a shipment of Tr1umph to arrive, and hope to see additional gainz.
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Lynks8 said:
I understand. I myself was/am a big skeptic of most natural "anabolics", but there's two things to consider:

1. Does the product have an intelligently designed delivery system? (Not all absorption enhancers are created equal)

2. Subjectivity abounds. I have seen a wide variety of reports on these ingredients from people I trust. For me, I saw enough compelling evidence to try each for myself. There are some ingredients/products that I'll never, ever spend money on, but with these I was willing to give them a chance and see if I was a "responder" (an oversimplified term, to be sure, but you get the point). I am personally glad I did.
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That's true. There are just soo many of these supplements that come and go - and some of them get great reviews right out of the gate and then fade away. I'm cutting now but overall I've been stuck in a long term plateau and I guess I've been looking to exhaust all my resources to see if anything could help.
 
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