What is your favourite stim-free pre-workout powder that you actually use?

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Celluvol MPA + beta alanina + caffeina
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How is the beta alanine for you? I am trying to get the sr version to clinically dose it.
You don’t need sustained release BA for it to be effective.

Finally, the chronic supplementation of SRBA (sustained release beta alanine) versus PBA (pure beta alanine) seems equally effective.
If you wanted to “optimize” BA loading using normal BA, you could take it with meals, as congestion with food has shown to be more effective at carnosine loading than taking it between meals. This isn’t necessary/beneficial with SRBA, but normal BA is just so cheap and easy to get. I’d just go with normal BA split into 2-3 doses with meals.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/23439427/
 
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You don’t need sustained release BA for it to be effective.



If you wanted to “optimize” BA loading using normal BA, you could take it with meals, as congestion with food has shown to be more effective at carnosine loading than taking it between meals. This isn’t necessary/beneficial with SRBA, but normal BA is just so cheap and easy to get. I’d just go with normal BA split into 2-3 doses with meals.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/23439427/
Cool! Last time I tried it....well...it sucked. So taking it with food, 3.2g split 2-3 doses?
 
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Cool! Last time I tried it....well...it sucked. So taking it with food, 3.2g split 2-3 doses?
You could do 3.2-4.8g/day split in 2-3 servings. So ~1.6g 2-3x is good. Splitting the dose and taking it with food should minimize tingling too; I assume you don’t want tingling when you’re having lunch haha.
 

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Vasomax and high volume are great options and I always add in a scoop of Lipøshield as well. Ergonine is a good one too, all stim Free
 
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2 scoops of Hemavol or High Volume for me.
Sleeve Buster (I have a few tubs I got on sale) is a decent enough alternative to either of the aforementioned for me, or as a "chucker in on topper" if I'm running low on funds and down to one scoop a day of Hemavol or High Volume.
 

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I found a good deal on a product called Muscle Rage NOS BOMB (spicy name i know haha)
Label looks really solid though, with 2 grams of agmatine pr. serving. What do you think?
Biggest downside is that the Cit-L-Malate probably is at a 1:1 ratio which only gives 3g of L-Cit. Agmatine and Nitrosigine is generously dosed though.

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Has anyone tried outbreak nutrition serum?

Vitamin B3 (as Niacin)- 250% RDI

L-Citrulline - 4000mg

Potassium Nitrate - 500mg

Nitrosigine - 500mg

Vaso6® - 300mg

Huperzine A - 5mg
 

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Has anyone tried outbreak nutrition serum?

Vitamin B3 (as Niacin)- 250% RDI

L-Citrulline - 4000mg

Potassium Nitrate - 500mg

Nitrosigine - 500mg

Vaso6® - 300mg

Huperzine A - 5mg
It looks good, but kinda suck that they cheaped out on nitrate and nitrosigine
 
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MA Labs MA Pump
Nutrabio Stim Free
Kraken Pump
High Volume
Build Fast Formula Vasoblitz

If you want a very basic non stim and your on a budget:
NO3 or Noxygen
 

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When I want Nitrate Based:
Proccor Ultra Octane
PEScience High Volume

When I want some Vaso6:
SNS Vasoforce XT

About to crack open some CEL Super Swole next week to give that a shot as I take a break from Nitrates for a little bit again.
 
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I’ve been using a single serving of RSP Nitritions Pump Boost (2.5g L citrulline, 1.5g hydromax and 250mg powdered coconut water)

Works perfectly for high(er) volume days.
 
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Thinking of making my own: bulk citrulline, bulk agmatine, adding vaso6 and pcynogenol.
 
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quake 10.0 has been my go to for quite some time .. now its CEL super swole .. prolly the best i have ever had

seeling my quake10.0 & xtend perform stash now lol
 
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Hands down Juice Daddy, IMO. That and VasoForce XT stacked is ridiculous
 
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CEL SuperSwole if I'm really hitting it hard...the most comprehensive and multi-faceted profile in the market imo.

Otherwise I keep it basic with stims + Vaso6 or GlycerPump.
 
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CEL SuperSwole if I'm really hitting it hard...the most comprehensive and multi-faceted profile in the market imo.

Otherwise I keep it basic with stims + Vaso6 or GlycerPump.
Sounds like a good stack. I've been switching between superswole and vasoforce as well!
 

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