What is currently top PH?
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cardiobro
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"not enough" hahahaha that sums up why no one runs 1 cycle.. Anyways, you didnt post what your goals were, i assume cutting because you are 5"11 at 275 however i dont know for sure. Do you want to cut all that chub away, or are you just looking for strength? Thats the deciding factor!
jbryand101b
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gymrat827
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This will give great strength gains and will allow you to cut a large portion of BF off
cardiobro
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hahaha i lol'd
gymrat827
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I normally eat McDonalds once a day while on cycle. I only drink on the wk ends too, not during the wk. Tribulus is all you need for pct, has me back in a few days
sofargone561
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favs right now are super dmz rx or methadrol extreme rx both kick ass mathadrol is more potent tho. 
jamesm11
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i just finished beastdrol/katanadrol. the results were incredible, but my diet was nearly perfect, i haven't touched alcohol in 6 months and i trained like a beast.
PHs won't perform miracles. They are supplements. But if you're looking to cut that much then why not do clen/T3, ECA, something that'll cut you down.
55lbs is a TON to lose and you're gonna sacrifice some muscle anyways.
PHs won't perform miracles. They are supplements. But if you're looking to cut that much then why not do clen/T3, ECA, something that'll cut you down.
55lbs is a TON to lose and you're gonna sacrifice some muscle anyways.
heebs10
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if the results were just "ok" your doing something wrong! tribol has 20mg of SD, 5mg Epi, and 35 mg Tren per cap and if you followed the bottle's directions, you took 2 caps a day. thats 40mg of superdrol/day! plus the other two steroids. the SD in there alone is enough for massive gains.
sofargone561
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wow that sounds like a great PH
heebs10
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trens not methylated but its still tough on the liver, and like you said, all are harsh on the lipids. i wonder if this dude even used liver support and other support supps...
sofargone561
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just cuz its rough on the liver makes it a bad ph? not imo
carpee
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especially at 40 mg.
if he's disappointed by that, he will definitely be disappointed by anything else.
sofargone561
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gotcha i can agree with this i wasnt understand what you where trying to say but now i understand and agree
tonyp2001
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I think maybe I should stick with tribol 60 for the next cycle I still have a week or so left from previous bottle. My next question should I do a 4 or 6 week cycle? Also I only have time to lift 4 or 5 days a week, do I continue to take twice a day on off days? Is creatine a good idea to use on cycle? Or how about an anti estrogen serm like clomin or nolvadex during a cycle ?
DonnyG
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A girl I work with dropped 20 pounds by eliminating fast food, soda, and alcohol from her diet. She exercised moderately, but absolutely did not consume any of those three things. If you keep your diet in check, you will lose weight from that alone. If you add a 3-5 day workout regimen and drink a ton of water, you'll be set.
Taking another prohormone isn't the answer for you man. We all want to be stronger, but what you need is to drop weight. Prohormones won't help your cardio training.
Taking another prohormone isn't the answer for you man. We all want to be stronger, but what you need is to drop weight. Prohormones won't help your cardio training.
heebs10
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you have no idea what your doing and shouldnt be using compounds such as this, particularly when you have that much weight to lose. you NEVER run SD 6 weeks! and like i said earlier tribol 60 contains SD
juiceless_joe
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You'd be better off buying your hormonals individuall. That stack sounds like liver rape, but I guess you're still standing. I would sub Ultradrol for Superdrol in any stack as you can run it at a lower dosage presumably as a favor to your liver and the sides are less. Good luck finding the stuff though.
Sourdough
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There is still no way I would run Clen/T3 or a serious ECA stack and cutting diet without doing a mild cycle as well.
When someone opens this kind of thread for the fun of it and just wants to see what everyones opinions are on the current market supps then go for the suggestions fellas...
But when they first sentence states they are one cycle in for an experience level and that compound is from an unheard of manufacturer (prob fake or underdosed/tainted) then dont start throwing out all the names of the biggest hitters you can think of.
This person here needs to do some considerable personal research and is obviously looking for the easy route as you guys joked with your "google" comments. Dont feed the fire.
Personally I wouldnt even suggest a single thing without asking them what their diet and past natty supplement history was to begin with..... if suitable then start making suggestions on compounds to run based on personal goals and diet....
Sorry but everyone wants to be "220lbs and stronger" and isnt much in the way of a response..... give up some real info and youll get some real answers.
Sourdough
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really?
You obviously dont read well for someone who wants to be spoonfed information.
What is it you want in a short term goal? your obviously not going to get jacked, tan and drop 50lbs in 4 weeks so what are your real goals?
What are you doing for a diet to accomplish those goals?
what are you taking for fatloss for those goals? (as this is what you should be looking into, not anabolic hormones)
What kind of routine, not just how often, but what KIND of workout are you doing to hit your goals???
start laying this stuff out there and you might get some constructive responses.
Sourdough
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Huh?
All I said was I wouldn't suggest any serious cutting without a mild cycle as a base since you said for him to do that instead of a cycle.
Separately I mentioned that I wouldn't be suggesting any heavy hitters to him in reference to everyones posts on the first page of alpha one this superdrol that and yes that even includes your suggestion of beastdrol and katanadrol.... Regardless of what he was belligerently just running and claiming did nothing he obviously should be doing much less with his lack of knowledge and inexperience.
Sorry you took it so personally, but this is the internet, maybe re-read a post once or twice before flying off the handle, tone isn't that easy to perceive and I'm obviously trying to help this individual, not start a nut swinging match with you.
All I said was I wouldn't suggest any serious cutting without a mild cycle as a base since you said for him to do that instead of a cycle.
Separately I mentioned that I wouldn't be suggesting any heavy hitters to him in reference to everyones posts on the first page of alpha one this superdrol that and yes that even includes your suggestion of beastdrol and katanadrol.... Regardless of what he was belligerently just running and claiming did nothing he obviously should be doing much less with his lack of knowledge and inexperience.
Sorry you took it so personally, but this is the internet, maybe re-read a post once or twice before flying off the handle, tone isn't that easy to perceive and I'm obviously trying to help this individual, not start a nut swinging match with you.
cardiobro
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whatever methyls you decide to run, id recommend doing a liver bulk. Add 2 shots of vodka with each serving, and add in Tylenol evenly spread out in the day. If you can get your hands on them painkillers are great too. This will set your liver up for the strength it needs later in life. This cycle is not easy and lethargy will be a common issue. Just make sure you take some milk thistle to cancel out the effects of all of this.
jamesm11
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No. beastdrol is way too strong for a beginner. It's harsh, the sides are harsh, the effects are difficult to keep unless you have experience.
Look on logs here for first time users. there's plenty of questions.
elucid
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will do, thanks.