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Chewster

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So in my second week of t400 & tren e + 1mg arim. ed . I eat pretty damn clean and a lot, plus two shakes a day. For some reason I am really leaning out and getting really veiny. Went from 210-215 range, about 15%bf to around 200-205 10%-ish. Its weird because this is the lightest I have weighed in a while and I just dont understand the weight loss. Ive never seen it happen this quickly and I expected to bloat more, if not bulk up. My buddy claims I am eating too clean to bulk up and says test/tren can lean you out. I just wanted some input. BTW im 5'10. Is the arim keeping me from bloating or maybe im just over-analyzing I dunno. Again thanks for the input. Sorry about the long post!
 
Increased vascularity is normal. As far as the leaning out, how many cals are you taking in? Have you calculated your maintenance & are you taking in significantly more than that? What is your protein carb fat split like?
 
Chewster said:
So in my second week of t400 & tren e + 1mg arim. ed . I eat pretty damn clean and a lot, plus two shakes a day. For some reason I am really leaning out and getting really veiny. Went from 210-215 range, about 15%bf to around 200-205 10%-ish. Its weird because this is the lightest I have weighed in a while and I just dont understand the weight loss. Ive never seen it happen this quickly and I expected to bloat more, if not bulk up. My buddy claims I am eating too clean to bulk up and says test/tren can lean you out. I just wanted some input. BTW im 5'10. Is the arim keeping me from bloating or maybe im just over-analyzing I dunno. Again thanks for the input. Sorry about the long post!
2 weeks and u dropped 5% bodyfat? perhaps you've been eating magic beans....

anyway, tren can lean you out for sure. if you're trying to bulk, did u up the cals?

oh and arimidex knocks the water out of you - might be that.
 
dont know my split but recently started eating a lot cleaner. Something like this in diff variations.
oatmeal
chicken
rice
salad
pasta
two 500 cal shakes daily.
I use those foods in diff. variations throughout my daily eating.

I take in more than my body weight in protein easily.And eat a ton, like 6meals+ daily, not including shakes.

Its not that I dont like the change in my body (how it looks right now) but its just diff. BTW just came off IGF+MGF about a 2 weeks ago just thought I;d add that in. Also ran tren/sus awhile ago and didnt have this effect.
 
one mg of adex a day? that is one reason there, that is about 4 times what you probably need. a lot of people do just fine with .25mg a day. tren is the only steriod that I know of that will burn fat but only if there is little or no estrogen present. at 1mg I am doubting that you have much. not good for your blood work.

how much test are you running anyway? if your bulking a little nolvadex would serve you better (for cholesterol and gyno prevention)
 
the arim. are 1mg capsi I wanted to use less but dont think it would be that accurate to pour em out to 1/2's or 1/4's. Im just trying to be careful because of a small little lump that i dont want getting any larger. Oh and currently running the t400 twice week and the tren @ 75 eod.
 
You really shouldn't be seeing THAT much from your AAS at this point regardless.. especially Tren Enanthate. 2 weeks is not the right time to be guaging any reaction... other than maybe sides.. You are using way too much Arimidex as well. Estrogen is beneficial to a point.. Your leaning out must be from of the magic beans that same_old pointed out........ a 5% bf reduction eh? ;)

wait a few more weeks for the magic. Good luck.
 
obviously my bf% was an estimate. I based it upon a bf calculator which i know is not accurate. But i know from how my body looks its around that range, sorry I was just trying to be helpful so I could get better input. Also I know how long it takes to see results from these substances, which is why this initially scared me. Like I said the arimidex is in 1mg capsules what do you suggest i do? Take one every couple of days or attempt to divide the capsules somehow? Thanks for the responses btw.
 
Chewster said:
the arim. are 1mg capsi I wanted to use less but dont think it would be that accurate to pour em out to 1/2's or 1/4's. Im just trying to be careful because of a small little lump that i dont want getting any larger. Oh and currently running the t400 twice week and the tren @ 75 eod.
Then at least take it EOD instead of ED. will work fine. Let me check but you might be able to get away with ever third day, I need to look up the "half life"
 
don't take the adex until you need it .. i never use AI's consistently unless prepping for a show .. otherwise i just take them when i notice i look too bloated .. which is rare anyway
 
Who the heck worries about losing fat and getting veiny?
Certainly not I, that's a very welcomed 'side-effect' IMO
 
Blown said:
Who the heck worries about losing fat and getting veiny?
Certainly not I, that's a very welcomed 'side-effect' IMO
well, when you want to get bigger and you drop 10lbs, that can be disconcerting.

i am virtually positive that it's the arimidex. 1mg is wayyy too much. open the caps up, mix the powder up good, and cut into quarters for ED.

neither tren e or test e will knock fat off of you that fast, but 1mg adex ED will pull the water out that quickly. alot of people confuse water/bloat with fat (myself included) so it can be really tough to gauge.
 
Hell I mayy as well update this since I started it.
Dropped the Ari. Got some letro ran a heavy dose( to get rid of some puffyness) of that for a few days then lowered it to
.25 a day for maintence. I ran a few weeks of igf in the middle and am about to start another round of igf to finish it off and run through pct.

Im happy with my results so far but im sure anyone would be w/ T400, Tren, Drol and Igf:aargh:
 
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