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Water....How Much?

Wudog

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I know the general intake for water is 8, 8oz glasses of water a day....add in working out and that goes up....then add creatine and other things the amount needed increases as well. So if I take: BCAA's, Protein, Multi, Fish Oil, and Beta-Alanine.......how much water should I be drinking daily, along with that how much water should I drink during my actual workout?
 
A gallon to a gallon and a half a day should be fine.

I like 2 gallons a day personally.
 
The Water Myth

Written by Denise Dahdah, NetDoctor journalist

In recent years, drinking large quantities of water has become one of the mantras for healthy living. Every magazine has had its version of 'drink water and be healthy' or 'drink water and lose weight'. But do we really need to drink the mythical eight glasses of water every day?
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Doctors advise that we should drink at least 1.2 litres (2.5 pints) of water a day.

Human beings are made up of around 75 per cent water. Two thirds of our bodily water is found inside our cells, with the rest between the cells and in our blood.

Water provides the medium in which all the body's chemical reactions take place and the solution in which foodstuffs are dissolved and transported. It helps regulate our body temperature through sweating.

A 2 per cent loss in the water surrounding our cells can result in a 20 per cent drop in energy levels. That's how important water is for us.

Water is the most vital requirement for human life. While our bodies can survive without food for around three weeks, without water we can only live for three days.

Dr Keith Barnard, GP, says: 'The body tries desperately hard to retain water if there is no intake, so hardly any urine is passed. If a person is in a normal temperature and not exposed to the wind they could probably last longer than three days - maybe as long as a week.'

We cannot live long without water because we have no reserves of it in our body.
So do you really need to drink at least eight glasses of water every day?

On average, your body loses 1-1.5 litres of water a day. If someone is undertaking a lot of activity, and therefore breathing and sweating more, they would lose more.

Dr Barnard says: 'It is not essential to always drink a set amount regardless of circumstances. The body is very good at regulating water.

'If you drink too much, your body will get rid of the excess, so you will pass urine more often and it will look almost clear.

'If you don't drink enough, your body will save water by concentrating your urine, which will look darker, and your brain will tell you that you need more water by making you feel thirsty.'

Another thing to keep in mind is that water is found in fruits, vegetables, milk and juices. Water from these sources will go some way to meeting your daily requirements, so people do not need to drink a full eight glasses of water on top of this (see Table 1).

Senior nutrition scientist Gail Goldberg says: 'There is a perception generated, for example by newspapers and magazine articles, that all our water requirement has to come from "water".

'My colleagues and I would never say that people should only drink water. It's a matter of individual choice and availability.'
Table 1: Examples of the water content of some foods according to the British Nutrition Foundation
Apples (100g) 84.5g
Grapes (100g) 81.8g
Milk (1 pint) 531.8g
Broccoli (85g) 77.43g
Sweet corn (85g) 59.42g
Tomato soup (220g) 185.24g

The Macrobiotic Association of Great Britain (MAGB) says that a person following a macrobiotic diet does not necessarily need to drink as much water as someone who is on a regular diet.

Macrobiotic cook and teacher Bob Lloyd says: 'The type of foods we [people following a macrobiotic diet] eat contain a lot of water and are less dehydrating, therefore there is less need to drink.'
Can drinking water help you lose weight?

A reasonable water intake can help with weight loss. We need around half a cup of water for every 100 calories we burn.

Dr Roger Henderson, GP, explains: 'Drinking before eating may help you lose weight because the brain can generate energy from water and food.

'When water is used instead of food then none is stored as fat - as is the case with unused food - and excess water passes out of the body with no weight gain.

'Drinking before food helps to fill the stomach and increases the chance of weight loss by making the person eat less.'
So how much should you drink?

The minimum figures for the body's daily water loss are 500ml through urine and 700ml through breathing and sweating.

Doctors advise that to be on the safe side we should drink at least 1.2 litres of liquids (2.5 pints). So, remember, although water is essential, you don't need to become obsessed about drinking eight glasses a day!
 
Ok here is how it is for me when I'm taking lots of supps and it's summer when I am working out on a regular basis and being a large man, if I don't get in at least 6-7 litres a day I am going to have problems.. I can get headaches lose energy generally feel like crap. It's not a problem I am actually thirsty for this amount. Funny the more I drink the more capacity I seem to have and the thirstier I seem to be. Anyway any change in these conditions has a impact on how much water I need. In the winter when I am not taking a lot of supps, I may need only around 4 litres of even less.

Here's a tell tale sign if your urine is very dark then you are probably not drinking enough. I feel at the top of my game when it is quite clear. Remember were athletes and our need is much higher than normal people. Forcing yourself to drink copius amounts may not be a good idea.
 
a simple rule i like to use is 1lb = 1 oz

I would agree for people who take a fair amount of protein and/or other supps and who workout hard either lifting or cardio.

My general rule is 1lb = 1/2 oz. of actual water for normal living or people having desk jobs and stuff. Then add in some other liquids perhaps and of course more water depending on activity level.
 
no need for more than 2 gallons unless you're doing endurance work outside in the sun.
 
no need for more than 2 gallons unless you're doing endurance work outside in the sun.

You can't make a blanket statement like that about water intake. There are days where 2 gallons may not be enough for me. I lose a ton of water in the gym and if I am taking a Thermo, that is going to burn up another litre or so. Guys quit trying to put a formula on it, it's very individual and circumstantial.
 
You can't make a blanket statement like that about water intake. There are days where 2 gallons may not be enough for me. I lose a ton of water in the gym and if I am taking a Thermo, that is going to burn up another litre or so. Guys quit trying to put a formula on it, it's very individual and circumstantial.
Yes, I can make a blanket statement. It's up to the individual to use their God-given intelligence and logic to understand the reason why people make statements such as mine are to give them a starting point. They can make the necessary modifications and alterations as they become more in tune with their bodies and understand what their personal needs are. It simply goes w/o saying...

If there's one thing everyone comes to realize is that no one method works for everyone. you come to understand this concept at some point: whether it's b/c someone tells you or you find out for yourself. Again, it goes w/o saying.

P.S. I agree w. you minus you claiming I can't make a blanket statement. :)
 
Yes, I can make a blanket statement. It's up to the individual to use their God-given intelligence and logic to understand the reason why people make statements such as mine are to give them a starting point. They can make the necessary modifications and alterations as they become more in tune with their bodies and understand what their personal needs are. It simply goes w/o saying...

If there's one thing everyone comes to realize is that no one method works for everyone. you come to understand this concept at some point: whether it's b/c someone tells you or you find out for yourself. Again, it goes w/o saying.

P.S. I agree w. you minus you claiming I can't make a blanket statement. :)

ok you can make the statement (bad wording on my part) :laugh2: it's just that water intake varies from day to day for an individual or from person to person, makes it hard to guess how much a person will need.
 
I would agree for people who take a fair amount of protein and/or other supps and who workout hard either lifting or cardio.

My general rule is 1lb = 1/2 oz. of actual water for normal living or people having desk jobs and stuff. Then add in some other liquids perhaps and of course more water depending on activity level.

that was my assumption as well!
 
ok you can make the statement (bad wording on my part) :laugh2: it's just that water intake varies from day to day for an individual or from person to person, makes it hard to guess how much a person will need.
I'm just argumentative :18: no worries man. You're absolutely right though. It really comes down to what kind of activity you're involved in (e.g. endurance sports done outside in the blazing sun). Generally speaking, I can see why someone would be consuming 3-4 gallons of water--not to mention Gatorade. But if someone doesn't fall under this category, the majority of the population will be good w/1-2 gallons of water daily. Of course, if you find out you're not part of the 'cool crowd' then it'd be wise to make the necessary adjustments and increase your intake.

Evidently, you're not in the 'cool crowd' :09:

LOL j/k
 
I'm just argumentative :18: no worries man. You're absolutely right though. It really comes down to what kind of activity you're involved in (e.g. endurance sports done outside in the blazing sun). Generally speaking, I can see why someone would be consuming 3-4 gallons of water--not to mention Gatorade. But if someone doesn't fall under this category, the majority of the population will be good w/1-2 gallons of water daily. Of course, if you find out you're not part of the 'cool crowd' then it'd be wise to make the necessary adjustments and increase your intake.

Evidently, you're not in the 'cool crowd' :09:

LOL j/k

Yes sweating like a pig makes me uncool :happysad: but it does make me hot :mischievous:
 
i wish i had info to back it up but my wife/nurse says that drinking so much water that your pee is clear is a bad idea....it means that u are saturated with water and not enough... vitamins and minerals...ect. your pee should have a slight color to it but not dark yellow...
 
i wish i had info to back it up but my wife/nurse says that drinking so much water that your pee is clear is a bad idea....it means that u are saturated with water and not enough... vitamins and minerals...ect. your pee should have a slight color to it but not dark yellow...

Yah I have heard all the arguments .. and I will agree somewhat. I think that there may be some color and sometimes it's going to be fairly clear, remember were athletes and were going to get ourselves into situations where we really need an excess of water. When we get depleted of eletrolyres and minerals then there are ways to deal with that.

Urine should have some color ? Yah that does sound right, but I would not panic if it doesn't, I think in some cases it's better not to be de-hydrated. If your urine does get very clear then maybe just take some mineral supps. If your not holding water during exercise go into a cold sweat, and feel light headed you are low on electrolytes. One thing I know for sure and it's the only thing I can really say that is certain is that my water requirement often takes me to a place where my urine is clear and it's better that I am hydrated than if I drink less water. The problem is not that I am drinking too much it's just that my requirement has taken me to that point. The problem with saying things like your urine should not be clear is that you have to take into account the situation the person is in. It's not a black and white subject. Know your body know your requirements. If it's a choice between de-hydration or a depletion of minerals then go with the latter it's only temporary.
 
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