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Vujades BLR Rebirth Log - its time to get the boyz back!

They also don't like the sides that accompany them. At least half the people I know that have used Clomid had vision issues.
 
all i can say is im using viron rebirth and follidrone for my pct and after a 6 week dmz cycle i was shutdown i thought my buddy down there was dead. 2 weeks into pct and he has come back from the dead lol and im not feeling lethargic lol
 
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DigitalB said:
Maybe in your mind..

But I'm sure 90% of the experienced cyclers on AM will not replace there serms with Rebirth, it's just a fact..
But I can see some adding it to there serm..
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Apparently you mis-understood my post. Allow me to clarify for you. I was just saying that it's pointless to run rebirth when using a serm. No need to waste money with rebirth if you are already taking a tried and true serm. If you had looked up at my previous posts, you would have noticed that I question how much of an effect rebirth has played in recovery. The only use I can see for rebirth is using it solo. And using it solo, I'm not sure how effective it is.
 
metallifter87 said:
all i can say is im using viron rebirth and follidrone for my pct and after a 6 week dmz cycle i was shutdown i thought my buddy down there was dead. 2 weeks into pct and he has come back from the dead lol and im not feeling lethargic lol
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So did your balls blow up like they do on clomid, torem, etc.? Just curious lol, as I've never heard anyone mention this. Not that you can totally equate that with recovery, just curious.
 
You are walking the line of trolling at this point. You have expressed your opinion and now you are going after other posters.
 
DigitalB said:
Maybe in your mind..

But I'm sure 90% of the experienced cyclers on AM will not replace there serms with Rebirth, it's just a fact..
But I can see some adding it to there serm..
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First off. Rebirth just came out. It's fresh. Secondly it's meant to take over Rc serms which we all know are shady and not very reliable. That's a FACT. I find it dumb to add it to a serm when in fact it is a serm. It's like adding an ai to another ai. That doesn't make sense.

By all means whoever wants to continue to put under dosed, or better yet something else besides what they think they're using, then by all means go ahead. Yes we all went that route before and for something like this to come out so we can be more assure on what's put in our body then this is a winner. On top of that it works. Period.

Just stating an opinion no back and forth argue of any sort.

Try rebirth on your next pct and see.
 
I feel it's a bit premature to forge conclusions on the basis of this rather extreme scenario. Question is would a more established serm have brought him back to baseline or over in 30 days? The case study highlighted above throws some doubt on this.

Having said this i would love to see Rebirth run by someone using a less suppressive substance and in a younger age bracket.
 
anabolix after the dmz i had my boys shrivel up a bit after my BLR pct stack yes they blew up like they would on clompihene or tamoxifen
 
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This is great news since I'm running rebirth and follidrone and never used any gear. I am also not using preworkouts just folli and rebirth that's all I will end up doin labs when I finish my run but now I don't know if I should run a second bottle of rebirth.
 
kisaj said:
You are walking the line of trolling at this point. You have expressed your opinion and now you are going after other posters.
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Im not trolling or going after anyone kissaj, but thanks for taking an interest in me lol. This is called discussion. The poster i quoted made a comment on my post, therefore i responded. No need to start name calling. If you are only interested in hearing view points that coinside with yours, then all you are doing is hindering progress.
 
Good work vujade, thanks for taking the time to do all of this for us brother. As I'm sure you will, id keep running pct for another 30 days. Thank you sir and good log. Will you be getting bloods done in another 30 days?
 
yelis300 said:
Good work vujade, thanks for taking the time to do all of this for us brother. As I'm sure you will,
id keep running pct for another 30 days. Thank you sir and good log. Will you be getting bloods done in another 30 days?
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Thx yells I appreciate the Positive feedback.

Yes, I do plan on running my PCT for another 30 days once i get another bottle of Rebirth which i'm hoping
will be here by Monday or Tuesday next week. I knew that it was a possibility that PCT would take longer
then 4 weeks after running Trest during a 12 week cycle.

And yea,, definitely will be getting more bloods done after the next 30 days :)
 
I'm impressed with the results. There will always be people who are unsure about things like this, however I for one would rather pay the slight premium to stay on the right side of the law and know what I'm putting in my body.

Also, finished my 30 days of follidrone..........amazing stuff
 
NattyJack said:
I'm impressed with the results. There will always be people who are unsure about things like this, however
I for one would rather pay the slight premium to stay on the right side of the law and know what I'm putting in my body.

Also, finished my 30 days of follidrone..........amazing stuff
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Thx bro...i was too.

For me, its knowing Im not putting something that potentially has more sides and is more toxic then some
of the anabolics we take.
 
vujade said:
Thx bro...i was too.

For me, its knowing Im not putting something that potentially has more sides and is more toxic then some
of the anabolics we take.
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Not only that, you know what you're getting with BLR. I'm also interested in lab work in another 30 days. This already puts me at rest for mild cycles. Would love to see what 2 months can do for the harsh cycle you ran. Thanks for logging bro.
 
Not sure if this was mentioned but so far ... How much of the gains/progress made through cycle were u able to keep post cycle ? Thx
 
Rk6187 said:
Not sure if this was mentioned but so far ... How much of the gains/progress made through cycle were u able to keep post cycle ? Thx
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I think i mentioned it somewhere in my final review. Gained 10lbs on my recomp cycle and lost 3lbs during the Rebirth PCT run.
 
vujade said:
Thx yells I appreciate the Positive feedback.

Yes, I do plan on running my PCT for another 30 days once i get another bottle of Rebirth which i'm hoping
will be here by Monday or Tuesday next week. I knew that it was a possibility that PCT would take longer
then 4 weeks after running Trest during a 12 week cycle.

And yea,, definitely will be getting more bloods done after the next 30 days :)
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Did this not pan out?
 
Volvo140G said:
Did this not pan out?
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Hey Volvo, it took about 2 weeks for me to get another bottle of RebIrth, so i started my 2nd PCT
with Rebirth, Viron & the new oral AI about 23 days ago. I got about 6 or 7 days left and should
be getting new blood work done either this coming Friday or next Monday.
 
looking forward to the blood work-decent time has lapsed so it will be interesting to see where your numbers fall.
 
Canes325 said:
Not only that, you know what you're getting with BLR. I'm also interested in lab work in another 30 days. This already puts me at rest for mild cycles. Would love to see what 2 months can do for the harsh cycle you ran. Thanks for logging bro.
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Volvo140G said:
Did this not pan out?
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yelis300 said:
Was wondering the same thing. How about those second bloods vujade?
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Afi140 said:
looking forward to the blood work-decent time has lapsed so it will be interesting to see where your numbers fall.
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Will be posting new bloodwork in a few minutes...
 
ts been 50 days since i posted the the results form my 30 day PCT of Rebirth & Viron.
Just had bloodwork done again yesterday on day 30 of my 2nd round of Rebirth, Viron
and the new oral AI.

DOSING PROTOCOL:
Rebirth: 1 cap am & 1 cap pre-bed
Viron: 1 cap am & 1 cap pre-bed
Oral AI: 1 cap am

i just got my results....I See below.. :)

BLR Rebirth PCT Day 1 Bloodwork Results
Test - 62
LH - 3.0
FSH - 3.1
Estradiol - 8.1


BLR Rebirth PCT Day 30 Bloodwork Results
Total Test - 229
LH - 5.3
FSH - 6.6
Estradiol - 5


BLR Rebirth PCT Day 80 Bloodwork Results
Total Test - 445 (range 348 - 1197)
LH - 5.8 (range 1.7 to 8.6)
FSH - 6.7 (range 1.5 - 12.4)
Estradiol - 16.2 (range 7.6 - 42.6)


DAY 1 to DAY 80 RESULTS:
718% increase in Total T
193% increase in LH
216% increase in FSH

Overall, I would definitely say that it was a success. You can totally recover, even from something as hard as Trest
using Rebirth. My total T is now higher then when i started. The last time i had my T tested, it was in the low 400's.
Now its in the mid 400's..! Just a reminder, I am 46 and ran a 12 week cycle with 5 anabolic compounds including
Trestolone. Before this 12 weeks, I ran a 6 week cycle of Osta. So basIcally i was on cycle for 18 weeks.

In addition i had previously been diagnosed with low T around 35 and have even been on TRT in the past. So to
be 445 without any anabolic hormones and/or drugs, I am extremely happy..!

Thank you brundel for making products that work..!!! :bigok:

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11 WEEK PCT LAYOUT
1-4: Rebirth, Viron & Form
5-7: Test Booster (from another company)
8-11: Rebirth, Viron & new Oral AI
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kisaj
halfhuman
 
**** yeah! Thanks for sharing vujade you're a pioneer!!!

I've got some rebirth and am planning a similar pct based arouns rebirth after my next cycle, 8 weeks of triumphalis.
 
Vujade, you are a true gentleman to go through the trouble and time for not only running a pre/post lab, but follow up no less. Thank you for your efforts.
 
Canes325 said:
Sweet. Thanks vujade! Looks like you've recovered extremely well.
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Thanks Canes.. it not only looks like it, but i also feel like I've recovered too.!! :)


Volvo140G said:
**** yeah! Thanks for sharing vujade you're a pioneer!!!

I've got some rebirth and am planning a similar pct based arouns rebirth after my next cycle, 8 weeks of triumphalis.
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Your welcome Volvo... I was definitely a Guinea Pig. All in the name of science....LOL :bigok:

Sounds good brother... you going to get bloodwork done to see how it works out for you..?
 
kisaj said:
Vujade, you are a true gentleman to go through the trouble and time for not only running a pre/post lab, but follow up no less. Thank you for your efforts.
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I most definitely agree. Great job and thanx.

Recovery was great.
 
kisaj said:
Vujade, you are a true gentleman to go through the trouble and time for not only running a pre/post lab, but follow up no less.
Thank you for your efforts.
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Thanks for the compliment kisaj. It was my pleasure. Thank you, halfhuman & brundel for everything that you
guys do for all of us on AM.

I felt VERY privileged to have been picked to log this & represent BLR on such a ground breaking product. :biggthumpup:
 
Great stuff vujade. Any plans for bloodwork a bit down the road? I'd be interested to know how things hold up as I've seen many people that get ridic levels of t right at the end/during pct but then basically drop back down a couple weeks after
 
this is awesome. so pumped for you that you recovered, but more selfishly pumped you got bloods and posted for us. Amazing results man so thankful you posted these for us.

Also I plan on using Rebirth and Viron as part of my next PCT. Already got some on hand :)
 
Now this is a log!! Youve set the gold standard as far as im concerned.

Thanks so much for the time, effort and expense you' ve undergone to share your experiences. Dont think it's fair that one or two are asking for yet more follow up bloods. Think more loggers should emulate your approach

And BTW props for all the products involved.
 
Volvo140G said:
Vujade - probably - don't want u to enjoy all the glory ;) I'll be sure to tag you if I do....
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Definitely bro. Would love to follow if you log it :)


booneman77 said:
Great stuff vujade. Any plans for bloodwork a bit down the road? I'd be interested to know how things hold up as
I've seen many people that get ridic levels of t right at the end/during pct but then basically drop back down a couple weeks after
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Probably not in the next 30 days, but I was thinking about doing it again in 60 days. I wanted to see if I continued on
with Viron & the rest of the oral AI bottle i have if i could get it up higher.


highlander31 said:
this is awesome. so pumped for you that you recovered, but more selfishly pumped
you got bloods and posted for us. Amazing results man so thankful you posted these for us.

Also I plan on using Rebirth and Viron as part of my next PCT. Already got some on hand :)
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No worries highlander. Glad you enjoyed the log & that it was helpful for so many people :bigok:

Are you going to log your PCT..? What are you going to use for an AI..?


ucheoma said:
Now this is a log!! Youve set the gold standard as far as im concerned.

Thanks so much for the time, effort and expense you' ve undergone to share your experiences. Dont think it's fair that one or two are asking for
yet more follow up bloods. Think more loggers should emulate your approach

And BTW props for all the products involved.
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Thx brother..! Appreciate the love my man.

Unfortunate for me, if i set the gold standard, now I've got my work cutout for me on my next log :biggthumpup:

I agree more people should do bloodwork especially when dealing with hormonal products. I think people
should be doing it not just when they log, but any time they cycle or do PCT.
 
vujade said:
Probably not in the next 30 days, but I was thinking about doing it again in 60 days. I wanted to see if I continued on
with Viron & the rest of the oral AI bottle i have if i could get it up higher.
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That's plenty cool. Def not asking you to just get more bloods for no reason but it seemed like you would be thinking the same anyways. As always your dedication is truly appreciated.
 
booneman77 said:
That's plenty cool. Def not asking you to just get more bloods for no reason but it seemed like you would be thinking the same anyways. As always your dedication is truly appreciated.
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thx booneman. appreciate the positive feedback bro :)
 
Wow. Good stuff bro!
Considering the circumstances=
Age
cycle components
previous hypognoadism diagnosis
Prev HRT administration

The fact that you were able to get levels above your previous high end is exceptional.

I really appreciate you taking the time to run the log, run labs, and of course to help the community here to have hard information to use when making product decisions. I can say my products work but at the end of the day what makes me happiest is when someone puts them to the test because its real world proof.
Thanks for everything bro. Hopefully people will read this, see the labs, and know they have a proven, viable OTC option.
 
brundel said:
Wow. Good stuff bro!
Considering the circumstances=
Age
cycle components
previous hypognoadism diagnosis
Prev HRT administration

The fact that you were able to get levels above your previous high end is exceptional.

I really appreciate you taking the time to run the log, run labs, and of course to help the community here to have hard information to use when making product decisions. I can say my products work but at the end of the day what makes me happiest is when someone puts them to the test because its real world proof.
Thanks for everything bro. Hopefully people will read this, see the labs, and know they have a proven, viable OTC option.
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Thanks brundel Appreciate your dedication & commitment. And for making sure i was recovered completely.

I was super excited too when I got my results yesterday. I was hoping for the best, but did not expect it to be higher
then my previous baseline.

Definitely had a lot of things working against me, as you listed out above.

This definitely should prove without a shadow of a doubt that your products work.

Hopefully the success of these products will allow you the funds for research and development of even more new
ground breaking products for us greedy supplement junkies :)

Im really looking forward to the Transdermal AI, the new Epi product & the new Anabolic..!
 
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That's incredible... I've actually kept up with this entire log however this is my first time posting on it. I'm getting married in two months and my levels still aren't right after a 6 week pct using torem. I'll be running this with HPTA and anabeta elite as soon as I can scrounge up the cash to order the Rebirth. The other products I all ready have on hand. Thanks for your dedication, it's because of your log that ill be purchasing this product!
 
Punisher88 said:
That's incredible... I've actually kept up with this entire log however this is my first time posting on it.
I'm getting married in two months and my levels still aren't right after a 6 week pct using torem. I'll be running this with HPTA and
anabeta elite as soon as I can scrounge up the cash to order the Rebirth. The other products I all ready have on hand. Thanks for your
dedication, it's because of your log that ill be purchasing this product!
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Thanks bro. My brother is going that route right now with Torem, he just finished up Trest cycle. Waiting to see how Torem
does for him compared to my Rebirth post cycle. Good luck brother.. congrats on the impending nuptials :)
 
Very, very interesting. This thread gives me hope in the OTC supplement industry... Truly a game changer... It's almost like written in ancient stone that PCT MUST include pharmaceuticals such as nolva or clomid... This changes everything...

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My goal is to make sure you have VIABLE otc options.
It shouldnt be a step down or a gamble. It should be a reliable choice and this is.
Wait till you see the new AIs :)
 
On the topic of otc AI's... Does arimistane actually work?
 
plifter42 said:
On the topic of otc AI's... Does arimistane actually work?
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Agreed with Kisaj. It has noticeable drying/hardening effects and some info showing a positive effect on cortisol reduction but as far as aromatase inhibition I haven't been convinced of it's efficacy. Formeron has been the best OTC AI I've ever used. Sadly it's banned but I can't wait to see what BLR's new AI's can do!
 
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