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* Viron * Rebirth * Exotherm * Prolactrone * -- LOG

Pre supps
Currently been on a cut without any legitimate supps for roughly 30 days, with my cals/macros all tuned in using MyFitnessPal app. Started at 215, 16% bf, and currently sitting at 201, 13% bf!

Having a decent experience in weightlifting, I've learned that incorporating supplements is best when you have already made solid progress and are hitting a plateau.

Current Stats -- 06/16/16
Weight: 201
BF: 13%
Height: 6 ft
Age: 22

Misc. Background Info
Had bad gyno, and i mean real bad from a stupid cycle at an age that i shouldnt have taken it. (18).... Taking the dive, i went under the knife 7 weeks ago and boy was that the best decision I have ever made.

Doctor did what i thought was an excellent job and left very little noticeable scarring under the areola, but about two weeks ago i noticed the left pec getting puffy and there feels like another lump has appeared. Slightly tender but its hard to depict between tender scare tissue or newly formed gland. Anyone thats experienced gyno knows its the largest mind **** a male can possibly go through and even more after just coming out of a $5000 surgical experience.

Getting worried i did some research to try to control my E levels. I havnt gotten blood tests but i never did a correct PCT all those years ago so i know i never fully bounced back. Hell, i was even lactating a week prior to the surgery.

This left me with a little research around anabolicminds and the advice i obtained suggested that these were solid products to help me bounce back. Im hoping it will at least stop the tissue from further developing and if im not content, ill proceed further with my plastic surgeon, and take ralox... Lol.

supps
Viron
Rebirth
Exotherm
Prolactrone
Whey protein
Creatine (maybe not because im cutting, thoughts?)
Omega 3's

Protocol:
*Under Vujades much appreciated recommendation.

Viron; 1 cap AM & 1 cap pwo 5 days on / 2 days off
Rebirth; 1 cap AM & 1 cap pre bed
Exotherm; 1 1/2 pump twice a day or 2 pumps AM & 1 pump pm
Prolactrone; start with 1 cap pre bed and then up to 2 caps, then eventually 3 caps max all spaced out.

Questions
I have a multi vitamin, but it includes b6, which i read might ruin the benifts of prolactrone. Anymore research on this?



Currently biking while i type this, took the reccomended dosage 30 mins before ardiving and I've never experienced sweat like this. UNREAL!
 
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1ST...... :biggthumpup:
 
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Day one
Like i briefly posted above, I took the supps half an hour before my workout.


Wow, either these products already kicked in, or I'm experiencing one hell of a placebo. I biked 6 miles as a warm-up and I've never sweat that much before. Feeling like im sitting in a sauna at rest!! Also had crazy ass pumps which i love.

Brief workout:
6 mile bike warm-up
3x10 lateral pulldowns
3x10 lateral raises
3x10 reverse fly
3x10 machine rows
6x10 concentrated curls

Note: I work in construction 6 out of 7 days a week so some days workouts are sub-par but i'm going to try to increase intensity on this natty cycle.

Questions:
Should i take hydroxy cut too? Heard caffeine supps work well with this kind of stack.

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*left was 05/17/16
*right is today 06/16/16
*Just want to clarify that this is without supplements and any further information and pictures will be results obtained from these supps
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how do you have your cycle laid out...?

I would do....

Viron - 1 cap AM & 1 cap pwo 5 days on / 2 days off

Rebirth - 1 cap AM & 1 cap pre bed

Exotherm - 1 1/2 pump twice a day or 2 pumps AM & 1 pump pm

Prolactrone - start with 1 cap pre bed and then up to 2 caps, then eventually 3 caps max all spaced out.

If you need some added estrogen control you could always thrown in 1 cap of Letrone daily to or up
your Exotherm up to 4 to 5 pumps daily.
 
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how do you have your cycle laid out...?

I would do....

Viron - 1 cap AM & 1 cap pwo 5 days on / 2 days off

Rebirth - 1 cap AM & 1 cap pre bed

Exotherm - 1 1/2 pump twice a day or 2 pumps AM & 1 pump pm

Prolactrone - start with 1 cap pre bed and then up to 2 caps, then eventually 3 caps max all spaced out.

If you need some added estrogen control you could always thrown in 1 cap of Letrone daily to or up
your Exotherm up to 4 to 5 pumps daily.
Okay, ill follow that exact protocol, but with exotherm at 3 pumps as iv heard it causes massive joint pains above that. I appreciate the advice.

Edit: You say added, is this not considered estrogen control?
 
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Okay, ill follow that exact protocol, but with exotherm at 3 pumps as iv heard it causes massive joint pains above that.
I appreciate the advice.

Edit: You say added, is this not considered estrogen control?
3 pumps can cause joint pain for some. But not for others. brundel had mentioned some guys are running
up to 5 pumps with no issues.

Yes Exotherm is estrogen control or an AI.

Exotherm and Letrone both have the same estrogen control ingredient in them. I was just saying that if
you didnt get the results you were looking for on 3 pumps, and didnt want to do more pumps of exotherm
then you could always add in a cap of Letrone for some added estrogen control.
 
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3 pumps can cause joint pain for some. But not for others. brundel had mentioned some guys are running
up to 5 pumps with no issues.

Yes Exotherm is estrogen control or an AI.

Exotherm and Letrone both have the same estrogen control ingredient in them. I was just saying that if
you didnt get the results you were looking for on 3 pumps, and didnt want to do more pumps of exotherm
then you could always add in a cap of Letrone for some added estrogen control.
Okay, thank you my friend! There shouldnt be a rebound correct, or do i need to taper off?
 
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Okay, thank you my friend! There shouldnt be a rebound correct, or do i need to taper off?

Personally i like to taper down...
 
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Sorry for all the questions, hope i am not bothering. What would the tapering look like, and is one pump considered pressed down until fully compressed and no liquid is coming out, or a quick tap? Might seem like a stupid question but could easily be miscalculated.
 
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Sorry for all the questions, hope i am not bothering. What would the tapering look like, and is one pump considered pressed down until fully compressed and no liquid is coming out, or a quick tap? Might seem like a stupid question but could easily be miscalculated.
For me tapering down would look something like this..... and this is just an example (you can modify it as you see fit)

Lets say you were doing this cycle for 8 weeks...

Run 3 pumps a day for 6 weeks
Run 2 pumps a day for 1 week
Run 1 pump a day for 1 week

No need to taper down with Rebirth or Viron.

I believe 1 full pump = the plunger being pressed all the way down
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Day 2
This is unbelivable, not even 24 hours in and the hard lumps under my nipple and puffiness have decreased by half! This stuff is obviously top notch ****.

Libido is already up a significant amount too, kept waking up with woodys and have been feeling really great all day. Been sweating a lot at work, which makes me feel like this is cutting the fat right off of me. Very impressed so far and I'm going to recommened these products to my friends.

Wont be able to lift today because i have to drive 4 hours back home for fathers day weekend, but thankfully im kicking ass at work today.

I think my chest is starting to look "normal"?
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Chest definitely looks normal.

Yes, it doesnt take long to start seeing the effects from this stack.

I run similar stack twice now. The 1st time i ran it my test was completely shut down
and with about 5 days i could already feel my libido come back and getting random
wood even though i was in PCT.
 
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Chest definitely looks normal.

Yes, it doesnt take long to start seeing the effects from this stack.

I run similar stack twice now. The 1st time i ran it my test was completely shut down
and with about 5 days i could already feel my libido come back and getting random
wood even though i was in PCT.
If i can somehow scrap up the money ill try buying more so i can run it for 8 weeks. Unfortunately parents are getting divorced and I have to pay my way through the last two years of college i have left. Grind baby grind
 
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I'll see if we can get brundel to maybe get you a deal on the supplements you need to extend the cycle.

The best i can do at TGB is 7% off.
 
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I'll see if we can get brundel to maybe get you a deal on the supplements you need to extend the cycle.

The best i can do at TGB is 7% off.
Wow, that would be great. Really loving the customer service from you guys!!
 
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Day 3
Feeling pretty lathargic, not sure if its from low E or lack of carbs but i had to fight through my workout. I did have decent pumps though, even in the muscles that I didnt work today.

Incline bench 3x10
Decline bench 3x10
Dips 3x10
Chest flys 3x10
Tricep pulldowns 3x10
Tricep rope skull crushers 3x15
Bike 5 miles, sweat was decent, felt really warm.

Dreams were out of this world last night. Was so vivid that i have clear pictures of what was occuring in my mind still.

Felt like I already looked leaner in the mirror, and no joint pain yet.

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1 viron
1 rebirth
2 Prolactrone
1 exotherm pump

2 cups of brown rice this morning, thats all for food today so far.
 
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The lumps under my nipples are almost gone, but it still seems like the fatty tissue that the glands produced have stayed the same. Maybe it will disappear over time, or while i drop weight? Either way, I'm very happy with this stack, and I believe a lot of it has to do with prolactrone. Not going to be able to lift today, as I am heading back home now. One last thing I would like to mention, is that my dreams were out of this world, I woke up believing that it was real.

Hope all you fathers are having a good fathers day, It was sure nice to visit mine.

Weight this morning: 202 lbs
 
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Glad that stack is already starting to work for you. BLR Products do not disappoint :biggthumpup:
 
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Day 5
Feeling and looking leaner than ever. Still havnt seen any negative sides and no joint pain. Dreams are stupid crazy but its enjoyable.

Looking like this will be a quiet log, but thats alright, hopefully there are a few of you following along and enjoying yourselves.

Will be posting another picture on day 7
 
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Let's show some BLR Love to this log guys brundel halfhuman :)
 
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Day 6:

Biked 5 miles, and then proceeded with 20 mins of walking on treadmill.

Protein: 173 g
Carbs: 161 g
Fat: 68 g

Pumps at the gym were out of this world today! Did back and biceps and I honestly felt like they were going to pop. Feeling very full and hard. Really looking forward to week 3 and 4 because i've heard thats when exotherm really shines.
 
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Day 7:

So yeah... I know how i told ya'll i was gonna post a picture but i went a little H.A.M at texas road house and ate 3000 calories at dinner.... Opps. This **** has been making me super hungry and i just let go, so im feel real bloated.

Carbs: 423 g
Protein: 353 g
Fat: 258 g
Cals: 5395

My arms have been full and swole all day and the workout today was unreal. Im starting to really become vascular on my arms and shoulders so i think the reason im not seeing my abs come through, besides todays diet, is because of the large amount of sodium intake. Im also getting my stretch marks back on my biceps, so i must be really filling out!
 
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Not sure whats going on, but just squeezed both nipples, and a dark lactation came out. I thought the lumps have been getting smaller and everything better but this "lactation" seems worse than it did before.
 

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Not sure whats going on, but just squeezed both nipples, and a dark lactation came out. I thought the lumps have been getting smaller and everything better but this "lactation" seems worse than it did before.
Is it blood? Might want to go to a doctor man
 
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are you running Prolactrone at 3 caps per day. yet..?
 
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are you running Prolactrone at 3 caps per day. yet..?
Yeah, iv been doing two in the a.m and one in p.m, gonna spread the dose out 1 am, 1 midday, 1 pm. Im also wondering if b6 in foods iv been eating is causing it to not bind well
 
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Yeah, iv been doing two in the a.m and one in p.m, gonna spread the dose out 1 am, 1 midday, 1 pm. Im also wondering if b6 in foods iv been eating is causing it to not bind well

maybe brundel could answer this better
 
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Day 8:
Sweat like crazy today, really feeling that warm energetic affect from exotherm.

Carbs: 52 g
Protein: 186 g
Fat: 42 g

Heres a picture where I am at, i really hope by week 4 i will have broken this lower stomach fat plateau. Really having a hard time doing so. Recently it was just a 5 mile bike, now im doing that, but at a faster pace and then including 20 mins walking on the treadmill after.

 
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Oh hell yea. Nice stack. I'm in bud. Any questions feel free to ask
 
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Pre supps
Currently been on a cut without any legitimate supps for roughly 30 days, with my cals/macros all tuned in using MyFitnessPal app. Started at 215, 16% bf, and currently sitting at 201, 13% bf!

Having a decent experience in weightlifting, I've learned that incorporating supplements is best when you have already made solid progress and are hitting a plateau.

Current Stats -- 06/16/16
Weight: 201
BF: 13%
Height: 6 ft
Age: 22

Misc. Background Info
Had bad gyno, and i mean real bad from a stupid cycle at an age that i shouldnt have taken it. (18).... Taking the dive, i went under the knife 7 weeks ago and boy was that the best decision I have ever made.

Doctor did what i thought was an excellent job and left very little noticeable scarring under the areola, but about two weeks ago i noticed the left pec getting puffy and there feels like another lump has appeared. Slightly tender but its hard to depict between tender scare tissue or newly formed gland. Anyone thats experienced gyno knows its the largest mind **** a male can possibly go through and even more after just coming out of a $5000 surgical experience.

Getting worried i did some research to try to control my E levels. I havnt gotten blood tests but i never did a correct PCT all those years ago so i know i never fully bounced back. Hell, i was even lactating a week prior to the surgery.

This left me with a little research around anabolicminds and the advice i obtained suggested that these were solid products to help me bounce back. Im hoping it will at least stop the tissue from further developing and if im not content, ill proceed further with my plastic surgeon, and take ralox... Lol.

supps
Viron
Rebirth
Exotherm
Prolactrone
Whey protein
Creatine (maybe not because im cutting, thoughts?)
Omega 3's

Protocol:
*Under Vujades much appreciated recommendation.

Viron; 1 cap AM & 1 cap pwo 5 days on / 2 days off
Rebirth; 1 cap AM & 1 cap pre bed
Exotherm; 1 1/2 pump twice a day or 2 pumps AM & 1 pump pm
Prolactrone; start with 1 cap pre bed and then up to 2 caps, then eventually 3 caps max all spaced out.

Questions
I have a multi vitamin, but it includes b6, which i read might ruin the benifts of prolactrone. Anymore research on this?



Currently biking while i type this, took the reccomended dosage 30 mins before ardiving and I've never experienced sweat like this. UNREAL!
Get some prami or cabaser bro there's no other way if it's proscribe induced I've felt with it and got rid of it lactating is normal lol but stop playing with them bro keep them off your mind for a week and see what happens act like your nips are not even there helped me I would smoke some herb three times a day to calm my mind when I was trying to destroy my lumps ....just remember prami works but makes you feel sick as ****
 
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This is unbelivable, not even 24 hours in and the hard lumps under my nipple and puffiness have decreased by half! This stuff is obviously top notch ****.

Libido is already up a significant amount too, kept waking up with woodys and have been feeling really great all day. Been sweating a lot at work, which makes me feel like this is cutting the fat right off of me. Very impressed so far and I'm going to recommened these products to my friends.

Wont be able to lift today because i have to drive 4 hours back home for fathers day weekend, but thankfully im kicking ass at work today.

I think my chest is starting to look "normal"?
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Nvm my last comment you look great bro chest is back to normal it seems good **** man
 
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Nvm my last comment you look great bro chest is back to normal it seems good **** man
Thats at a flexed state, when relaxed it has a slight puffiness to it. No one can probably notice but i can, and be comfortable in your own skin is a priceless thing.
 
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Does anyone have or know of a good pharm that supplies pharma ralox? Im sure you arent allowed to post this publicly, and if not, could someone private message me a hook up? I think ralox and letro from BLR will really tie everything together for me. Thanks in advance
 
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Oh hell yea. Nice stack. I'm in bud. Any questions feel free to ask
Should i run prolactrone at 4 times a day since i still have some lactation? If so at what does is most effective and how can i avoid vit b6 from blocking it. Not taking any additional supps that provide it, but its in a lot of foods.
 
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Should i run prolactrone at 4 times a day since i still have some lactation? If so at what does is most effective and how can i avoid vit b6 from blocking it. Not taking any additional supps that provide it, but its in a lot of foods.
**** a natural remedy man get some prami if your really serious about Riding yourself of lactation ivw felt with it an there is no other way you have to go rx for these issues
 
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Sorry for the delay, will explain further.

Day; 9, 10, 11
Went to the cape for the weekend so I did not have access or the ability to update this log. Gyno has flared up a bit so i ordered pram and exemestane, and will run with the BLR sups. Hopefully it fixes the issue. Besides that, I've been felling full and energetic.


Day 12:

Todays pumps were insane, arms are looking and feeling so full its retarded. Loving the gains from these products and can't wait to see how everything will look at week 4. Sorry for the short log, more to come
 
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Have you noticed any difference in libido since starting the BLR Stack..?
 
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Have you noticed any difference in libido since starting the BLR Stack..?
Yes i always forget to mention that libido increase is huge. I'd say 10 times what it normally is!
 
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Day 13:

Woke up a lot slimmer and vascular. Arms must be at their largest size yet, and im ****ing loving it. Been waking up with night sweats and been drenched all day at work and at the gym. Been running exotherm at 4 pumps a day and im starting to feel the effects more.

No joint pain recently, and i have been alert and focused throughout the day without any problems.

Dropped viron to one cap a day as im worried too much test is being converted to estro. Prami and exemestane come in tomorrow.
 
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sounds like your getting it dialed in. Glad your enjoying this stack..!
 

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