Vicious Labs PHs

[xR1pp3Rx]

Zoo treats people

when you gonna get stonk to carry our line up??

 

[Afi140]

when you gonna get stonk to carry our line up??

That’s up to muscle maker lol.

 

[mikeymike85]

Msten isn’t really going to give you that “dry” look like epistane, winny, etc. It wont make you bloat though, unless your diet is ****. I gained water on it, but I ate like a fatass because my goal was to get as big as possible during that cycle.

Would you say its dryer than DMZ?

 

[xR1pp3Rx]

Would you say its dryer than DMZ?

I would say it is and it isn't.. they truly are about the same.

 

[wrastler163]

I would say it is and it isn't.. they truly are about the same.

What are your thoughts on LMG?

 

[The Express 42]

Oh okay as long as it's not BP or Anxiety I can deal. I'm hoping this VL Msten is drier than DMZ.

DMZ does give me anxiety and I get real insecure it’s weird never had that with msten and I think the size/strength gains are better with msten by a hair with less sides

 

[xR1pp3Rx]

DMZ does give me anxiety and I get real insecure it’s weird never had that with msten and I think the size/strength gains are better with msten by a hair with less sides

LOL im the exact opposite

#weallunique

 

[mikeymike85]

I would say it is and it isn't.. they truly are about the same.

So then what is the real difference between the two results wise, lol?

 

[RickyBlobby]

So then what is the real difference between the two results wise, lol?

What's the difference between HDROL and TBOL? lol. Pick one, you wont be disappointed. If it doesn't agree with you for whatever reason maybe the other will.

 

[jrock645]

So then what is the real difference between the two results wise, lol?

I gather the difference in results, like the sides, are user dependent and theres no concrete answer for this.

 

[Gridles]

Just ordered all three already!

 

[Gridles]

Just ordered all three already!

I meant just order all three already! Let us know how you make out!

 

[xR1pp3Rx]

So then what is the real difference between the two results wise, lol?

YOU and your preference...

results wise its so close a call... id say ive seen more people claims of size with msten... however that's probably because its so much newer.. no one talked about DMZ for yrs...

 

[AnabolicGuru]

Ordered geozine and pyrosten; will probably do a cycle log on the geozine within this month. I tried stacking the discount codes but it didn’t work either.

 

[TheMovement]

Ordered geozine and pyrosten; will probably do a cycle log on the geozine within this month. I tried stacking the discount codes but it didn’t work either.

Geo will be the popular among our crowd.

 

[AnabolicGuru]

Geo will be the popular among our crowd.

Why do you say that?

 

[xR1pp3Rx]

Ordered geozine and pyrosten; will probably do a cycle log on the geozine within this month. I tried stacking the discount codes but it didn’t work either.

cool man but don't ever forget to do that, cause it'd been sweet to get 25% off.

 

[TheMovement]

Why do you say that?

Ive been able to find alot of info on it. Just the abundance of info makes it sound safer IMO but thats also because of the goals I have in mind.

 

[AnabolicGuru]

Ive been able to find alot of info on it. Just the abundance of info makes it sound safer IMO but thats also because of the goals I have in mind.

Ahhhh I see. Yea, I’ve ran msten before, but this will be my first time with dmz. Msten was great in my experience.

 

[TheMovement]

Order shipped already!!! Oh dang!

 

[xR1pp3Rx]

Order shipped already!!! Oh dang!

customer service is A++

 

[AnabolicGuru]

Order shipped already!!! Oh dang!

Dude, mine literally got shipped the second that I paid. They’re quick haha.

 

[FireJeff]

Bout to start my 1st cycle of msten. Ordered Wed and supposed to be here today. Very happy with how quickly it was shipped out!! I will order from Zoo again!!!

 

[DWeaver]

I will order from Zoo again!!!

Good luck with that

 

[Alpha1a]

Hydrobol Vicious Labs Log!

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/showthread.php?t=306144

I'll be logging the LMG

 

[Alpha1a]

Don't forget agreda10

 

[netflixNchill]

Good luck with that

Why do you say it like that?

 

[BlockBuilder]

It’s time for some tantric boys

 

[PoSiTiVeFLoW]

ZeroFlux brought out a clone of the old Celtic Labs Celtic Mass product, Super-diol. Back then guys allegedly used 40-90mg/day and said it felt very much like SD, albeit kicking in a bit slower. Harsher than DMZ, weaker than Sdrol.

Very cool they brought it back, because when Celtic/PHF owner passed it went with him until recently. RIP.

I haven’t tried Superdiol but still have a couple bottles of Mass I need to try.

I logged Super-diol by Premier Research Oils (Yates84) it was pretty good. Yeah sweet spot was 30-40mg for me.

 

[DWeaver]

Why do you say it like that?

Isn’t this their last run of gear? Maybe I’m wrong but I thought I heard that.

 

[JulzRulz]

I logged Super-diol by Premier Research Oils (Yates84) it was pretty good. Yeah sweet spot was 30-40mg for me.

Same here but I started low with one cap and then increased to 2. I have one more bottle, not sure though when I'll use it but it will be at 2 caps and perhaps experiment at 3.

 

[thaifoon90]

Ordered some Msten and it just arrived! Have to wait 2 more months to use it though :crying:

 

[AnabolicGuru]

Ordered some Msten and it just arrived! Have to wait 2 more months to use it though :crying:

That’s the worse haha; It’s so tempting having it just sitting there

 

[xR1pp3Rx]

may the force be with you!!!

 

[TheMovement]

Does anyone else have some logs to follow?

 

[xR1pp3Rx]

Does anyone else have some logs to follow?

I would be watching the cycle logs subsection.. there is a DMZ log starting there im aware of..

 

[dvw]

M sten is my favorite designer. I went from incline pressing 100 lb dumbbells for sets of 8 to 13 or 14 rep sets with 100's in only 4 weeks. Now this was lgi brand few years ago but vicious is probably a little purer raws Im willing to bet

 

[TheMovement]

I would be watching the cycle logs subsection.. there is a DMZ log starting there im aware of..

Im on 2 of them lol. Heck Im browsing the old logs on the VL Forum too. Never hurts to have more insight.

 

[sickomode]

Picked up the msten earlier this week, first time using it. I've only used Epi & Halo in the past. Halo didn't do much (I also wasn't following the best diet/routine at that time). Epi was earlier this year, I ended up only eating around maintenance and while I didn't put on much if any size, it definitely leaned me out a bit and I had very good strength increases. I'm bulking on this msten...is it recommended to eat more cals over maintenance than you would off cycle? Also, when should I expect it to really kick in (currently on day 5)?

Running 20mg for 4 weeks, alongside 500mg TUDCA and PCT will be nolva 20/20/10/10.

 

[AnabolicGuru]

Picked up the msten earlier this week, first time using it. I've only used Epi & Halo in the past. Halo didn't do much (I also wasn't following the best diet/routine at that time). Epi was earlier this year, I ended up only eating around maintenance and while I didn't put on much if any size, it definitely leaned me out a bit and I had very good strength increases. I'm bulking on this msten...is it recommended to eat more cals over maintenance than you would off cycle? Also, when should I expect it to really kick in (currently on day 5)?

Running 20mg for 4 weeks, alongside 500mg TUDCA and PCT will be nolva 20/20/10/10.

Definitely add more calories. You should notice differences in strength within the first week, and it will become more noticeable during weeks 2 and 3. I’d bump the dose up; you have 90 capsules, may as well use all of them.

 

[sickomode]

Definitely add more calories. You should notice differences in strength within the first week, and it will become more noticeable during weeks 2 and 3. I’d bump the dose up; you have 90 capsules, may as well use all of them.

Thanks for the advice, I searched through a ton of logs and saw 20mg was the most common so I was afraid to go higher and end up with a totally screwed liver. So far I've noticed more focus during workouts, along with adding a few more reps on some exercises but I'm not sure if it's the msten or placebo.

 

[AnabolicGuru]

Thanks for the advice, I searched through a ton of logs and saw 20mg was the most common so I was afraid to go higher and end up with a totally screwed liver. So far I've noticed more focus during workouts, along with adding a few more reps on some exercises but I'm not sure if it's the msten or placebo.

Chances of actually messing your liver up from one methylated steroid are minimal. Only dumbasses mess theirs up tbh haha.

 

[xR1pp3Rx]

Thanks for the advice, I searched through a ton of logs and saw 20mg was the most common so I was afraid to go higher and end up with a totally screwed liver. So far I've noticed more focus during workouts, along with adding a few more reps on some exercises but I'm not sure if it's the msten or placebo.

its fine to stay at that dose your first time out... just eat heavy and do work~

 

[thaifoon90]

Picked up the msten earlier this week, first time using it. I've only used Epi & Halo in the past. Halo didn't do much (I also wasn't following the best diet/routine at that time). Epi was earlier this year, I ended up only eating around maintenance and while I didn't put on much if any size, it definitely leaned me out a bit and I had very good strength increases. I'm bulking on this msten...is it recommended to eat more cals over maintenance than you would off cycle? Also, when should I expect it to really kick in (currently on day 5)?

Running 20mg for 4 weeks, alongside 500mg TUDCA and PCT will be nolva 20/20/10/10.

Are you taking any test base?

 

[sickomode]

Are you taking any test base?

No, I haven't been able to get over the psychological aspect of pinning yet, and I really don't know of any legit sources either. I was really happy with the results I got from solo epi so I figured msten should be even better.

 

[xR1pp3Rx]

No, I haven't been able to get over the psychological aspect of pinning yet, and I really don't know of any legit sources either. I was really happy with the results I got from solo epi so I figured msten should be even better.

this is a much much stronger hormone than epi. even at your dose.

 

[sickomode]

this is a much much stronger hormone than epi. even at your dose.

Yeah, I've seen a lot of cases of gains in the range of 15lbs in 4 weeks. If I can even get a solid 8-10 and a good amount of strength on my major lifts I'll definitely end up stocking up for the future.

 

[nnnnnn]

Consider using dermacrine as test base

 

[thaifoon90]

Would 4 andro be a strong enough test base for Msten?

 

[dvw]

Run 300 mgs per day or more of 4 dhea. That is good enough for me in the past. Although I took transdermal at 250 mg per day