Vicious Labs PHs

[AnabolicGuru]

Running the DMZ next month. Hopefully it’s as good as the original was.

Msten is wet, right? Almost like Phera?

Not familiar with lmg

Msten isn’t wet. It might make you retain a bit of water if your diet allows it, but it wont make you bloat or anything like dbol

 

[xR1pp3Rx]

Running the DMZ next month. Hopefully it’s as good as the original was.

Msten is wet, right? Almost like Phera?

Not familiar with lmg

negative.. its the other way around.. msten tends to be dry, and LMG tends to be a wetter deca type effects.

 

[mikeymike85]

Need to try M-Sten badly.

 

[jrock645]

negative.. its the other way around.. msten tends to be dry, and LMG tends to be a wetter deca type effects.

I read lmg is somewhat similar to tren?

 

[medinacirilo]

MSten was dry for me, much drier then their DMZ. Sides not as bad either

 

[jrock645]

Interesting... I’ve heard of people blowing up on Msten.

 

[xR1pp3Rx]

I read lmg is somewhat similar to tren?

it was sold as a replacement to x-tren back in the early 2000s. we could say tren. or. its similar to a 19 nor, hows that?

Interesting... I’ve heard of people blowing up on Msten.

people do blow up on it.. like they blow up on DMZ,,, if that makes sense...

 

[Sss23]

What’d the normal dosage for your dmz? I’ve seen between 2-3 pills per day (aka 30-45mg) for 6-8 weeks? Is this accurate?

 

[jrock645]

What’d the normal dosage for your dmz? I’ve seen between 2-3 pills per day (aka 30-45mg) for 6-8 weeks? Is this accurate?

30-45 for 4-6.

Everything I’ve ever taken, I was ready to come off after 4 weeks. I dunno how people do 6. Though I am aiming for 6 with epi and tren in the spring for my big cutdown. But between the cramps and dry joints the last few days, I was always glad when it was over.

 

[mikeymike85]

What’d the normal dosage for your dmz? I’ve seen between 2-3 pills per day (aka 30-45mg) for 6-8 weeks? Is this accurate?

DMZ is kind of harsh after 4-5 weeks. I usually give up by week 5 after running 30-45. I like running Var with low dose DMZ for longer periods. Hdrol is pretty easy to run 6 weeks.

 

[The Express 42]

I get more sides on dmz as well. Msten is the way to go. 30mg will blow you up, in two weeks you’ll be getting compliments from everyone

 

[medinacirilo]

30-45 for 4-6.

Everything I’ve ever taken, I was ready to come off after 4 weeks. I dunno how people do 6. Though I am aiming for 6 with epi and tren in the spring for my big cutdown. But between the cramps and dry joints the last few days, I was always glad when it was over.

Yup me too! It was really showing it’s magic at week 6 but the cramps and funky feeling are brutal! That’s the downside to PH’s

 

[AnabolicGuru]

Yup me too! It was really showing it’s magic at week 6 but the cramps and funky feeling are brutal! That’s the downside to PH’s

The results on orals slow down dramatically after 4-5 weeks, so anything beyond 6 weeks is just stupid anyways.

 

[RickyBlobby]

The results on orals slow down dramatically after 4-5 weeks, so anything beyond 6 weeks is just stupid anyways.

Curious to know how you came to this conclusion...?

 

[medinacirilo]

Even if I wanted to, I couldn’t physically make it past 6 weeks ?

 

[The Express 42]

ZOO will there be some sort of an intro deal?!

 

[Tbl16]

Best run to date involved a stack of DMZ and Msten, though I'm running my first pinning cycle now, so I'm sure that will change. However those two compounds go together well. Also can't go wrong with Zoo and VL. Great service and top notch products.

 

[AnabolicGuru]

Curious to know how you came to this conclusion...?

That’s just my experience with them. I’ve seen many others state this as well.

 

[RickyBlobby]

That’s just my experience with them. I’ve seen many others state this as well.

So are you just noticing the scale stop moving at that point?

 

[AnabolicGuru]

So are you just noticing the scale stop moving at that point?

Everything quits progressing. Strength, size, etc. There’s no point in putting more stress on the body for such minuscule results.

 

[ZOO]

ZOO will there be some sort of an intro deal?!

Yes, sir I'm planning on doing a launch discount code to celebrate their arrival.

 

[mikeymike85]

Yes, sir I'm planning on doing a launch discount code to celebrate their arrival.

What goodies are you dropping?! Hope one is MSten. Can you give us some clues, lol

 

[The Express 42]

What goodies are you dropping?! Hope one is MSten. Can you give us some clues, lol

Yes it’s Msten, DMZ, and LMG. CANT CONTAIN MY EXCITEMENT

 

[mikeymike85]

Yes it’s Msten, DMZ, and LMG. CANT CONTAIN MY EXCITEMENT

Jeesum. Well guess I'll be running a third cycle this year, lol. I go into withdrawal when I'm off. Never really heard much of LMG from back in the day.

 

[Sss23]

How many days a week do you guys workout on cycle?

 

[jrock645]

How many days a week do you guys workout on cycle?

Hugely dependent on training protocol. I generally lift 2x a week because thats all i can recover from on a HIT protocol, but on cycle ill add a 3rd.

 

[mikeymike85]

How many days a week do you guys workout on cycle?

5-6 religiously.

 

[Old Witch]

On cycle I train 2x daily with one day off per week as needed. Off cycle 1x per day 4 days per week.

 

[medinacirilo]

How many days a week do you guys workout on cycle?

As much as you can. The recovery is much better, as well as the hunger to fuel the machine. Take full advantage of all of these factors!

 

[Tbl16]

I work out 5-6 days per week year round. While on cycle I just up the frequency of my primary lifts. Like right now with my current cycle I squat 3x per week and deadlift 2x per week. Only benching one time because I have bad shoulders.

 

[The Express 42]

3 days on, 1 day off unless I have to switch it up depending on work and things like that

 

[RickyBlobby]

Everything quits progressing. Strength, size, etc. There’s no point in putting more stress on the body for such minuscule results.

Have you tried upping calories when gains slow? That seems to work well..

 

[jrock645]

So wait is this new product a stck of all three of those compounds, or are these separate products.

 

[boooosted]

So wait is this new product a stck of all three of those compounds, or are these separate products.

I'm wondering this also. I thought it sounded like they were separate but why would they discontinue DMZ just to make another DMZ? I have to assume they are stacked.

 

[Renew1]

boooosted jrock645

Separate products.

 

[Ryno94]

I'm wondering this also. I thought it sounded like they were separate but why would they discontinue DMZ just to make another DMZ? I have to assume they are stacked.

From what I seen, the new dmz product has more doses per bottle than the cadaver candy did

 

[srgraham69]

Release date 8/20

 

[AnabolicGuru]

Have you tried upping calories when gains slow? That seems to work well..

Yes lol. I worked up to 4250 cals on my last cycle and the only thing it did was bloat me. Several other people here will agree that oral gains slow down dramatically after 4-5 weeks.

 

[The Express 42]

I'm wondering this also. I thought it sounded like they were separate but why would they discontinue DMZ just to make another DMZ? I have to assume they are stacked.

Yes separate and the only difference with the dmz is it will be 90 caps at 15mg instead of 75.

 

[jrock645]

Would anyone stack msten and hydrobol?

 

[Old Witch]

Would anyone stack msten and hydrobol?

There have been products that stacked Max LMG, DMZ and MSten, and they definitely worked.

In fact I would suggest this combo of compounds is the perfect three for rapid results, in pretty much any combination. They work synergistically, with MSten or DMZ or both combating many progestational sides from Max LMG and water retention. Vicious Labs definitely chose wisely once again in my opinion.

 

[mikeymike85]

Gunna be walking sideways thru doors after dmz and msten. Ya buddies

 

[jrock645]

There have been products that stacked Max LMG, DMZ and MSten, and they definitely worked.

In fact I would suggest this combo of compounds is the perfect three for rapid results, in pretty much any combination. They work synergistically, with MSten or DMZ or both combating many progestational sides from Max LMG and water retention. Vicious Labs definitely chose wisely once again in my opinion.

Alright im sold... Guess ill run that in January. Im doing dmz and trenadrol next month.

 

[xR1pp3Rx]

Alright im sold... Guess ill run that in January. Im doing dmz and trenadrol next month.

which version of trenadrol if you don't mind me asking?

 

[jrock645]

which version of trenadrol if you don't mind me asking?

Bought very recently from Predator. Made by Fusion.

 

[xR1pp3Rx]

Bought very recently from Predator. Made by Fusion.

can you list the ingredient for me?

 

[Renew1]

can you list the ingredient for me?

Looks like..

19-Norandosta-4,9 diene-3, 17 dione

 

[jrock645]

Looks like..

19-Norandosta-4,9 diene-3, 17 dione

Yep.

 

[mikeymike85]

Is MSten really drier than DMZ? If so, I may never run DMZ ever again...and it's my fave compound.

 

[jrock645]

Is MSten really drier than DMZ? If so, I may never run DMZ ever again...and it's my fave compound.

I’m really curious about Msten. Supposedly drier and more mass gains. DMZ seems to shine in the recomp category, and a lot of the weight gain sounds like glycogen uptake. Been so long since I used it I can’t remember. Msten sounds like a less harsh Superdrol.