VARICOCELE...can it effect testosterone?

southpaw41 said:
how long has it been since your surgery? have you had any problems, regrets? Im afraid that resuming sex/masterbation/lifting after healing will re-aggrivate this problem. I'd rather just not do surgery if those activities will bring the vericocele back. I think i am worrying too much about this procedure, many say its not too bad and my urologist says its a simple procedure.
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It has been 6 weeks since surgery. I started working out again about week 3 and just took it easy. Now I'm back to where I was before having surgery. No problems have come up and I don't regret getting the surgery at all. It got rid of the pain I was having before. It really is a simple procedure, I came home and laid in bed for 3 days and then was able to go back to school. The pain meds I got weren't really necessary because Tylenol took care of the pain that I had. Just make sure you ice the area a lot so you don't swell.
 
snapps50 said:
So I'm 19 now and I think I have a low libido that is caused by my varicocele. I've never had a normal libido even through puberty. I've only recently realized that people view others differently than I do.

I'm going in for a consultation on what surgery options I have since two sperm tests showed up with "not normal" results. I personally believe it was the setting that caused a bad test, but that's just my opinion. I'll try to discuss if I can get my testosterone checked as well.

Will a normal libido spring out of this and will any genital growth come as well? I seldom rarely experience any physical or sexual attraction during a normal setting such as a night out or whatnot, so hopefully this will change.
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that is so odd. i feel at least somewhat attracted to every single person of the opposite sex. Sometime sthe attraction is so great i almost lost my mind. Just by someone walking past me looking super ****ing sexy with her tits all popping out of her top and her legas all bare in some heels. GOD DAMN I FEEL LIKE ****ING ATTACKING sometimes. lol. but yeah, feeling no attraction is bad, especially if your a man. Men should naturally wanna **** just about every girl that comes into sight. We have to work hard on being loyal and keeping our eyes from wandering.
 
Persplagon said:
It has been 6 weeks since surgery. I started working out again about week 3 and just took it easy. Now I'm back to where I was before having surgery. No problems have come up and I don't regret getting the surgery at all. It got rid of the pain I was having before. It really is a simple procedure, I came home and laid in bed for 3 days and then was able to go back to school. The pain meds I got weren't really necessary because Tylenol took care of the pain that I had. Just make sure you ice the area a lot so you don't swell.
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how is your libido now bro. and your morning wood? you feelin' horny now than before the surgery?
 
buster0371 said:
that is so odd. i feel at least somewhat attracted to every single person of the opposite sex. Sometime sthe attraction is so great i almost lost my mind. Just by someone walking past me looking super ****ing sexy with her tits all popping out of her top and her legas all bare in some heels. GOD DAMN I FEEL LIKE ****ING ATTACKING sometimes. lol. but yeah, feeling no attraction is bad, especially if your a man. Men should naturally wanna **** just about every girl that comes into sight. We have to work hard on being loyal and keeping our eyes from wandering.
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is this what everybody experiences or just a handful with that intensity. that sounds like a pain in the ass to deal with everyday of your life haha.
 
Persplagon said:
It has been 6 weeks since surgery. I started working out again about week 3 and just took it easy. Now I'm back to where I was before having surgery. No problems have come up and I don't regret getting the surgery at all. It got rid of the pain I was having before. It really is a simple procedure, I came home and laid in bed for 3 days and then was able to go back to school. The pain meds I got weren't really necessary because Tylenol took care of the pain that I had. Just make sure you ice the area a lot so you don't swell.
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Thanks for the responses man they're very helpful. I'm sure i will be going through with this surgery very soon just weighing a few things out. I wanna get it done while I'm still young (im 22 now so still fairly young) so i can heal to full potential. But i have never had pain, testicular shrinkage, or a dragging feeling from it so idk (i have grade 2/3 by the way). But im like 85% leaning towards getting it done in the next few month. I wanna go get a sperm analysis first since i have a doctors order for that. Also i may wait till snowboardiung season ends :)
 
hey, i tried reading through most of th posts in this thread, but its alot lol. Anyway, for those of you that have varicoceles, is it obvious? Like did you your doctor check and see it, or could you tell? I've been to so many doctors, and most of them have checked my scrotal area and none of them mentioned anything about a varicocele. The last one mentioned that there might be one. I went to get an ultra sound, and nothing was found. But how do I know that the ultra sound just wasnt done poorly?
 
Imeniaan said:
how is your libido now bro. and your morning wood? you feelin' horny now than before the surgery?
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Everything is good. Before having surgery I didn't have terrible problems or anything, but I'd say they've all improved a bit.

Raven, I noticed mine and then asked my doctor at it during my physical and he said it's not a big deal but if it still bothers you come back and we'll do something about it. It started hurting more so I just went straight to the urologist. If you have one you'll be able to see it or feel it pretty easily; if you can't it's probably not big enough to cause problems.
 
Persplagon said:
Everything is good. Before having surgery I didn't have terrible problems or anything, but I'd say they've all improved a bit.

Raven, I noticed mine and then asked my doctor at it during my physical and he said it's not a big deal but if it still bothers you come back and we'll do something about it. It started hurting more so I just went straight to the urologist. If you have one you'll be able to see it or feel it pretty easily; if you can't it's probably not big enough to cause problems.
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ok i feel...i feel a whole bunch of "cords", but the thing is I dont know what I'm looking for. I dont know what its supposed to feel, look like...

But you said that it would hurt? I used to get pain in my testicles a long time ago. Real severe pain, that I went to the doctor for. I dont get them anymore tho. What should my epidydimis, vas deferens, spermic cord, etc feel like when healthy?, and what should it look and feel like if there was a varicocele?
 
Mine felt like a bag of worms or spaghetti noodles. Feel both sides and see if one feels a lot bigger. You can see the veins if you have a large varicocele which is what I had. Look on wikipedia for a good picture of what it looks like.

Some people get pain from it, other don't so it goes both ways. Mine wasn't too severe like yours is but enough to be quite uncomfortable. The epididymis is on the back side of the testicle. I don't know how to describe what it feels like but you can feel it there.
 
Persplagon, how big is your scar from the conventional inguinal surgery? Where is it located (in your pubic hair region)? If your wearing a bathing suit can others see it? Im thinking about scheduling a surgery this Friday.
 
okay guys i willl see my urologist/surgeon tomorrow because i told them it was pretty important since i had the varicocele surgery about 3 weeks ago. Last week i saw my urologist and he said it looked like it was healing fine and told me no heavy lifting for another 7 days. I did however masturbate and i notice that my varicocele returned again. I read someone on a forum said they got the varicocele because they masturbated too early. I was an idiot because i did not ask him if it was okay or not to masturbate.

When i see him tomorrow, he will definitely see that my varicocele came back. My question is does anyone know how fast you can have a 2nd surgery? I know few people do get recurrence of varicocele and can do surgery again. I had the grade 3 by the way and right now i can still see the bag of worms. Note i did not see the worms 2 weeks ago when i was still healing and the worms came back few days ago after i masturbated. I had surgery on November 17. Does anyone know when is the earliest time to do the surgery again? Like if the 1st surgery did not correct it how long should the 2nd surgery be? Like it cannot be done until another 2 months if the first one failed.

I will see my urologist tomorrow in the afternoon but would like input. I will make damn sure if i get surgery again i will not masturbate or do anything for 1 month. He just told me no heavy lifting which was why i did it.
 
It's 1 3/4 in. Mine is located just above the hair with maybe half an inch of it in the hair region. You can't see it if I'm wearing shorts or bathing suit, only if I pull them down lower than anyone would normally wear shorts.
 
Persplagon said:
Mine felt like a bag of worms or spaghetti noodles. Feel both sides and see if one feels a lot bigger. You can see the veins if you have a large varicocele which is what I had. Look on wikipedia for a good picture of what it looks like.

Some people get pain from it, other don't so it goes both ways. Mine wasn't too severe like yours is but enough to be quite uncomfortable. The epididymis is on the back side of the testicle. I don't know how to describe what it feels like but you can feel it there.
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I always hear about the "bag of worms" feeling. Well when I feel these cords, it feels like a bag of worms. IDK what to think
 
westell1 said:
okay guys i willl see my urologist/surgeon tomorrow because i told them it was pretty important since i had the varicocele surgery about 3 weeks ago. Last week i saw my urologist and he said it looked like it was healing fine and told me no heavy lifting for another 7 days. I did however masturbate and i notice that my varicocele returned again. I read someone on a forum said they got the varicocele because they masturbated too early. I was an idiot because i did not ask him if it was okay or not to masturbate.

When i see him tomorrow, he will definitely see that my varicocele came back. My question is does anyone know how fast you can have a 2nd surgery? I know few people do get recurrence of varicocele and can do surgery again. I had the grade 3 by the way and right now i can still see the bag of worms. Note i did not see the worms 2 weeks ago when i was still healing and the worms came back few days ago after i masturbated. I had surgery on November 17. Does anyone know when is the earliest time to do the surgery again? Like if the 1st surgery did not correct it how long should the 2nd surgery be? Like it cannot be done until another 2 months if the first one failed.

I will see my urologist tomorrow in the afternoon but would like input. I will make damn sure if i get surgery again i will not masturbate or do anything for 1 month. He just told me no heavy lifting which was why i did it.
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Anyone?
 
okay went to urologist. I told him how i masturbated 2 weeks after the surgery and when he examined me, he asked if it hurt and i said yes. He said it is definitely swelling but he tells me he does not feel a varicocele. He told me it was not possible to have reoccurence this fast THROUGH MASTURBATION. I told him someone online mentioned it occurred again b/c of masturbation but he says IMPOSSIBLE. Is this true? It looks like a varicocele right now and feels like it did before the surgery.
 
He didn't say. He just said its swelling and that he does not feel nor see the varicocele. He did say wear a jockstrap and take some painkillers but did not write me a prescription. Do you think i need to wear a jockstrap? He says its for the pain but i dont feel much pain unless i squeeze my testicles the way he did it yesterday.
 
Yeah my urologist recommended a jockstrap too, just for comfort, or when I work out. You don't want your boys knocking around. OTC anti-inflamatories like Aleve are good too. You're probably healing fine, just take it easy & give it time.
 
G U Y S
i haven`t posted anything here for about 1.5 years or even more i think.
i joined this tread about 2years ago when i had bilateral varicocele and sudden ED, bad bad ED.

i did the surgery ( left side only ) exactly 1 year and a half ago hoping it will get rid of my ED.. well needless to say it did not do much, just a slight improvement.

After surgery LEVITRA and cialis got me hard, buuut with a serious case of PE .

I return to you guys now coz i thought i should share:

after 1,5 years of trying on myself EVERY POSSIBLE SH*T ON THE MARKET TO CURE MY PE.... I HAVE HIT TEH JJJJAAAACKPOT.

i have been taking what i am on now for about 9 months, and in my case, noticeable improvements have occured after about 3 weeks or so and since then i am pretty much on this herbal stuff. i am almost rock hard like i used to be before varicocele ( 95% at least) and in my worst days i can go for at least 20-30 minutes of continuos sex ,2-5 times a day,but i`d rather not. believe me i swear this is no bs, u can lookup my original posts on page 5-8 something like that.
my confidence is boosted and sexually.. well i am a demon now:)


now to share you what has really worked for me:
1) mumio - great great stuff but it`s an allrounded supp
( it will cure whatever problems it finds in your body - but it may cause pain sometimes, the man that recommended this to me got rid of colon cancer with it ,i know him in real life , no bs )
2) and the place that made my ED go away and made me go PRO on sex was this chinese guy:
actionlove.com
thats his site, i don`t know if i can advertise or not ,but it`s not advertisement, i`m just saying what really worked for me.

about 10 months ago i emailed him all me ED problems and thoughts and he replied in 1-2 days with some scientifical facts that i have to say, about 30% were wrong at least.he recommended some of his supplements he sells , about 100-200$ worth for 2 months supply.
I was so desperate after trying everything, i said why not try.

and , even though his explications may be with error etc etc, i swear to you on my varicocele, every product i bought from that man did 90% what it said it will.

if u guys are interested in giving it a try , i can give you feedback on the products i`ve tried.

anyway i remembered this forum today after i sent the chinese guy money for my next batch and thought i should share.
 
hey andrei. Where do you buy mumio? what brand do you use?

Someone mentioned to me the actionlove.com site and i was afraid it was some scam site. I did see some good reviews and other reviews that seem sort of like advertising. What specific products did you bought on the site?

Did it solve your morning wood problems as well? Should i just purchase the products you say you used or should i email him my problems and get a reply first?

I have since early 2005 because of an injury i had with my penis doing those jelqing penis enlargement exercises while my penis was hard and complications occurred. I had E.D, no morning wood, split stream urine all the time, high prolactin, low testesterone, and i checked on medical record venous leakage. I did look at the actionlove site and he did seem to have products for venous leakage. Do you have venous leakage by any chance?

Thanks
 
about mumio i used the one that melts in water and looks like tar, like this :
mumio7.com
, i bought it from a local shop that imports it from krgastan.



about actionlove, as i said , it looks suspicious and the arguments he uses are sometimes illogical at best, but the products i bought and still buy, did 90% what he told me they will.

my suggestion is email him with your worries and he`ll suggest what he seems will fit.

about morning wood , i have raging morning wood about 5 days per week.maybe more , but when i go to sleep at 4.am and wake up at 9am i don`t have wood, but other than that, at least 5 out of 7 days.


about the products here is what i used from there:

Moodmax - 5* mood in general, prolongs sex , if i take 1 or 2 just before sex( only took 2 pills just once, I Got tired of it, i banged for like an hour nonstop, and i just didnt wanna continue ,very tiring)

DopaFibra - gives MAD sex urges , also promotes big apetites due to GABA, if i take 2 dopafibra/day and 2 moodmax i can just do it all day long, it`s crazy. first week it really detoxed my body, i crapped 3/times day and drank 5liters per day.

Viagrowth 3 - overall great great product it`s like all in one, one of the greatest maybe, but i use it rarely because it contains DHEA witch sometimes does well for me sometimes it doesnt.

Arginox - i just like this one, a bit of arginine some tribulus and tongkat,nothing fancy but it improved my boners after adding this one to my diet.
Detoxia - this one heavily detoxed my liver( the guy said most of my ED is caused by my creatine use and that cleansing the liver should be me priority)

Fibra - it`s liquid, 20-30 drops per serving, it simply rocks, its like dopafibra and that moodmax with faster action.

VIP cream - this was just some kinky stuff i wanted to try, and indeed it makes your boner haard and to last longer also.

the dubious thing is that he says most of the products work on women to, i tried to give Moodmax to my gf, when she was on it she was horny, came alot and became a bight tighter, but she didn`t wanna take it after a while because she thaught i was poisoning her.

anyway, i wish you luck and suggest u try mailing the man, at worst u will loose 100$ or so and 1 month of taking pills. in my case it was worth it.
 
hey andrei. Do you know if you had venous leak by any chance? Did you use all of these products all in one month? I am not sure if its a good idea to use 8 different products at the same time.
 
about venous leak don`t remember , the doctors were real retards anyway.

about using all of these at once , the problem isn`t in 8 products at once, it`s a watching some specific quantities and not to take more ( for ex over 400mb of tribulus terrestris may cause problems because when u go off it your T production may drop ) , but per total there are mostly plants, the body takes what it needs, the excess is usually eliminated.

again i suggest mailing the dude .

for example the Detoxia is purely for detox, u can use it along with anything ,just cycle it 2 -3months on, 1off . but so far on me after 9 months no side effects,
just took a pause about 1 month , the only thing that happened was less morning wood,anyway no major problem.

i usually take about 4 products at a time, right now i take moodmax dopafibra ,arginox and pinealtonin ( i forgot to mention it ).
again the nr of products is totally irelevant, it`s the quantities of the substances that count
 
Any help with this problem would be much appreciated. I have currently been seeing a urologist to diagnose any possibly fertility issues I may have. My sperm count came back at 3 million (normal > 20 million) and 6.1 million a few weeks later. My bloodwork came back and my urologist is stumped.

Bloodwork:

Total Test: 3.6 nmol/L (8-27 nmol/L)
Free Test: 38.6 pg/mL (8.8-27 pg/mL)
SHBG: 4 nmol/L (15-48 nmol/mL)
LH: 1 ng/dL (1.4-5.5 ng/dL)
FSH: 2.6 IU/L (1.0-6.0 IU/L)
E2: 20 pg/mL (12-56 pg/mL)
TSH: .939 mIU/L (0.4-4.5 mIU/L)
T4: 1.14 ng/dL (0.7-1.5 ng/dL)
Prolactin: 9.5 ng/mL (4-23 ng/mL)

Besides the labs, I had an ultrasound which showed a "slight vericocele" on the left side, but both testes were normal size. My urologist said he is stumped by my bloodwork. At this point ( 1 month later ) he re-did the bloodwork, and is re-doing the semen analysis in another month. He basically seems as though he doesn't want to treat me for hypogonadism. He said he did not want to treat me with test, and offered no mention of any other possible drug i.e hcg, clomid, etc. Where do I go from here???
 
westell , u can go back to page between 4 or 8 on this thread, u`ll see there most of my syptoms, + some others i forgot to mention but u`ll find 90% of them there.
by the way i think i have venous leak also , couldn`t get it up while standing , still a hard task to complete now, but other then that i am 5* :)
anyway
mailing that chinese Lin guy would be my best suggestion ever. i do hope u try the stuff and come back with some feedback.

wilderbeast, if only sperm count is your problem i also recommend u give a shot with the chinese man.

this stuff worked Miracles for me, miracles.
 
i had surgery for my varicocele about 1.5 months ago. It was a grade 3. I did masturbate after 15 days after surgery and as of last month, it feels and looks like the varicocele returned. I saw my urologist about this and he tells me it does not look like a varicocele when he examined me the few days after i masturbated. I will see him in 1 week again. Varicocele grade 3 is visible to the eye and i heard people say varicocele can recur if you masturbate too quickly after surgery. I did it 15 days after since he did not say anything.

I mean the 2 weeks i did not masturbate, it looked like my varicocele is gone. Now however, it looks like a bag of worms still. I still have my testicles keep sticking to my legs feeling. Anyone know what i should do? My urologist told me it did NOT look like a varicocele a month ago. Will see him next wednesday. Anyone can give me insight?
 
I'm really glad I found this forum and thanks to all those contributing to a great resource of data!!

I'm also a bit concerned about excess sexual excitation, masturbation or otherwise being a possible cause of Varicocele.

My Varicocele appeared 10 weeks ago now and from time to time (I'm 34) I used to practice 'holding back' techniques of not ejaculating so I could carry on having sex for longer and more often. I'd practiced it a few times for the month preceding the appearance of my varicocele (it's been diagnosed as a grade 2/3). I wonder if by literally holding back sperm release if I'm creating too much pressure around the testes! Hm, something I definitely won't be doing again anyway...

The weekend before I first went to the doctors complaining of a swollen left testicle, I'd taken some viagra purely for recreational purposes (my first time) and was surprised because I was still feeling it's effects 2 days later (from what I'd read viagra only lasts 4 hours). I guess I was feeling abnormally aroused and whilst having loads of time with my girlfriend we were having fantastic and long lasting sex....

It was only after the swelling didn't go down in my testicle 2 days later (I thought it was the viagra at first) that I went to the doctor who put me through a battery of STD tests and preemptive antibiotics after diagnosing it as Orchitis.

I'm interested in hearing other peoples report of potentially hitting a high T threshold and initiating a physiological/hormonal cascade resulting in a Varicocele as it definitely corresponds with my story.

I'm now in the UK awaiting an appointment with a urologist (I was in Jakarta when I got the Varicocele diagnosis) and hopefully an embolization procedure. The reason I decided to go with embolization was because of the complication list doesn't include any severing of the testicular artery (balls dropping off) like it does with surgery. It's also because you can be literally back at work the next day after the op.

I've definitely noticed a slight reduction in size and softening of my left testicle since it appeared and felt some noticeable effects from (my own perceived) low testosterone levels (although I've yet to be my levels analyzed). What I'd love to ask the members here is if you think I'll be alright taking Dermacrine whose main ingredient is DHEA amongst others like pregnelanone. I obviously don't want to endanger or worsen my Varicocele symptoms but really feel the benefits afforded by the cream would regulate not only my testosterone but also mood/stress levels which I've been suffering from lately. There doesn't seem to be any side effects if you only cycle the cream for 4-6 weeks.


Any help would be greatly appreciated and good luck for everyone suffering Varicoceles.
 
snapps50 said:
So I'm 19 now and I think I have a low libido that is caused by my varicocele. I've never had a normal libido even through puberty. I've only recently realized that people view others differently than I do.

I'm going in for a consultation on what surgery options I have since two sperm tests showed up with "not normal" results. I personally believe it was the setting that caused a bad test, but that's just my opinion. I'll try to discuss if I can get my testosterone checked as well.

Will a normal libido spring out of this and will any genital growth come as well? I seldom rarely experience any physical or sexual attraction during a normal setting such as a night out or whatnot, so hopefully this will change.
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I just got my total testosterone checked and I was at 450. Says its normal.

Is there anything I can take to help me!
 
guys i don`t get it . why won`t u give the chinese guy a try? i was in the same spot until 1year ago and i swear there is a huge difference now for me. huge.
 
andrei said:
guys i don`t get it . why won`t u give the chinese guy a try? i was in the same spot until 1year ago and i swear there is a huge difference now for me. huge.
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because the chinese guy is a f.ucking scam. i tried a lot of his products and nothing worked and he is not even a real medical doctor.

it worked for you, that's great, long live placebo.
 
Congestion in the pelvic floor region constricting bloodflow messes things up bigtime continunously holding back from ejaculation is a no no. I know for a fact that most of my problems are caused from this.
 
Imeniaan said:
because the chinese guy is a f.ucking scam. i tried a lot of his products and nothing worked and he is not even a real medical doctor.

it worked for you, that's great, long live placebo.
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Its true that doctor Lin is not an MD but he is one of the only persons out there to turn too. Most urologist will laugh at you if you go to them with problems. If Lins products are not strong enough you could try Yun Bo Liu's product that he formulated called the Duramax it does have good reviews and would probably promote better blood flow.
 
So I had my first SA done at the end of December and called into my urologist yesterday to get the results (by the way I have a grade 2). My results were very poor with low sperm count, few mobile sperm, and not enough to produce morphology results.. pretty depressing for a 22 year old single guy... So they wrote me a doctors order to do another SA next week at a different lab and my urologist wants to meet me in person after I get second results. Sigh I'm really not sure what to think or do right now. Prolly best to get this damn surgery.
 
Alright so

Total T: 458
SHBG: 19.5
Free T: 125.1

Does this look ok? My doctor says this is in the normal range from 50 to 200 for Free T. I am really experiencing almost no sexual attraction so maybe that they're all far too low.
 
snapps50 said:
Alright so

Total T: 458
SHBG: 19.5
Free T: 125.1

Does this look ok? My doctor says this is in the normal range from 50 to 200 for Free T. I am really experiencing almost no sexual attraction so maybe that they're all far too low.
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You still need Thyroid values TSH, T3 and T4 Total and FREE also your Prolactin, DHEA-S, Morning Cortisol, DHT and E2 wouldn't hurt.

I know exactly where your comming from my T is in the 400's as well and I havn't had a sex drive in well over a year now.
 
lukeo said:
So after being diagnosed with a Variocele I asked my brothers to get checked out, and they both have a varicocele as well. I don't know if other people on here have experienced something similar. It must be like varicose veins, they either run in the family or not. I remember reading somewhere on here where people think it's caused by masturbation, well I don't agree with that at all. All guys masturbate. What do you think?
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Based on my experience I would agree. My dad has one, not sure about my brother but should probably ask him. Your right, all guys masterbate frequently and unless your holding your load to the point of pain or something i dont see how sexual activity could cause one.. I've had mine since i was an early teenager (22 now) and i didnt really start masterbating frequently till late middleschool/early highschool...

Im def leaning towards surgery now though. I just recently had 2 sperm tests. The first one had very poor results and i am gonna get the results on the second Wednesday when i meet with my urologist again. He's probably the best doctor in my area and offering the conventional inguinal method. Anyone here have that type of surgery done for varicocele?? if so how did it go?

Persplagon is everything with you?
 
I need some advice about this issue, I have varicocele on both sides, right one is small. There is significant atrophy and I have all the signs of low test (no libido, body has become soft, less body hair, no aggression and emotionally feel like ****). I'm scheduled to see urologist on Feb10 and I'm getting nauseas just thinking that he might just shrug it off and not do the surgery.

I need advice on how to convince him that this is ruining my life right now, I have moderate pain but that doesn't bother me, the rest of the symptoms are horrible.
Also does anyone know the cost of surgery/embolization because if he doesn't do it, I won't have a choice to USA from Canada to do it.
 
Hyde12 said:
The doc told me that I have a VARICOCELE. Can this be the reason for my low libido and less than optimal testosterone??
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No, it can't. This is ridiculous. the only way a varicocele will affect testosterone levels is if both your nuts are atrophied, and no longer receiving enough blood. You would know this too( it's called testicular torsion), because you would be having extreme pain, and if left untreated your testicles would die within a few days. But, a varicocele is usually a problem with the testicles receiving too much blood instead of not enough. A varicocele can affect fertility if it's extreme, because the enlarged veins will be supplying more blood, and where there's more blood the temperature is warmer...which can kill sperm cells. Guys, we all have two testicles last I checked. If the varicolcele were extreme and caused testicular atrophy, then the other testicle would pick up the slack.
 
festivus162 said:
lukeo why do you say 'you'll be saving his life more or less'?

I have a large grade III and seriously considering surgery. I had a date to get the conventional procedure done but backed out.
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I think he probably means that overtime the varicocele will progressively damage the testicle which in return will degrade his quality of life. IDK.

Thx lukeo for the advice.
 
southpaw41 said:
Based on my experience I would agree. My dad has one, not sure about my brother but should probably ask him. Your right, all guys masterbate frequently and unless your holding your load to the point of pain or something i dont see how sexual activity could cause one.. I've had mine since i was an early teenager (22 now) and i didnt really start masterbating frequently till late middleschool/early highschool...

Im def leaning towards surgery now though. I just recently had 2 sperm tests. The first one had very poor results and i am gonna get the results on the second Wednesday when i meet with my urologist again. He's probably the best doctor in my area and offering the conventional inguinal method. Anyone here have that type of surgery done for varicocele?? if so how did it go?

Persplagon is everything with you?
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Everything is great. The past few pages I've documented my progress since my surgery and I've had no problems. The bag of worms is gone and I don't have any more pain that I had before surgery. I had the regular inguinal method.
 
this is the most stupid answer I have ever read. Please dont give such answers if you dont know what you are talking about.

Augustus said:
No, it can't. This is ridiculous. the only way a varicocele will affect testosterone levels is if both your nuts are atrophied, and no longer receiving enough blood. You would know this too( it's called testicular torsion), because you would be having extreme pain, and if left untreated your testicles would die within a few days. But, a varicocele is usually a problem with the testicles receiving too much blood instead of not enough. A varicocele can affect fertility if it's extreme, because the enlarged veins will be supplying more blood, and where there's more blood the temperature is warmer...which can kill sperm cells. Guys, we all have two testicles last I checked. If the varicolcele were extreme and caused testicular atrophy, then the other testicle would pick up the slack.
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Results from 4 times going in for sperm.

WBC COUNT, SEMEN <=1 <=1 <=1 <=1
SEMEN VOLUME 3.0 1.5 4.0 3.0
SPERM COUNT, SEMEN 46 2 44 108
SPERMATOZOA, IMMOTILE % 54 100 44 54
SPERMATOZOA, NORMAL % 27 50 35 32
SPERMATOZOA, NONPROGRESSIVELY MOTILE %, SEM FLD 12 0 13 9
SPERM, PROGRESSIVELY MOTILE, TOTAL, SEMEN 48 0 76 120
ANALYSIS TIME, SEMEN 19:20 1730 17:51 20:17
SPERM SLOW PROGRESSIVE %, SEMEN 21 0 22 15
SPERM RAPID PROGRESSIVE %, SEMEN 14 0 21 22

Testosterone one day was 458 (at 9 AM) and the other (a half hour after ejaculation) was 538.

Doctor says they're normal. I don't really find them normal. I can see the second one was terrible but I felt I was in a bad setting and since it's hard for me to get stimuli, there you go. The last row of results I abstained for a week, so the count has increased a hell of a lot.

Anyone else say otherwise? This is only for my varicocele and not for my sexual problems.

My doctor after speaking to him will send me to a endocrinologist to figure out why I have no physical or sexual interest in people. I did a personal test for abstaining a week and it shows I don't have high prolactin.
 
snapps50 said:
Results from 4 times going in for sperm.

WBC COUNT, SEMEN <=1 <=1 <=1 <=1
SEMEN VOLUME 3.0 1.5 4.0 3.0
SPERM COUNT, SEMEN 46 2 44 108
SPERMATOZOA, IMMOTILE % 54 100 44 54
SPERMATOZOA, NORMAL % 27 50 35 32
SPERMATOZOA, NONPROGRESSIVELY MOTILE %, SEM FLD 12 0 13 9
SPERM, PROGRESSIVELY MOTILE, TOTAL, SEMEN 48 0 76 120
ANALYSIS TIME, SEMEN 19:20 1730 17:51 20:17
SPERM SLOW PROGRESSIVE %, SEMEN 21 0 22 15
SPERM RAPID PROGRESSIVE %, SEMEN 14 0 21 22

Testosterone one day was 458 (at 9 AM) and the other (a half hour after ejaculation) was 538.

Doctor says they're normal. I don't really find them normal. I can see the second one was terrible but I felt I was in a bad setting and since it's hard for me to get stimuli, there you go. The last row of results I abstained for a week, so the count has increased a hell of a lot.

Anyone else say otherwise? This is only for my varicocele and not for my sexual problems.

My doctor after speaking to him will send me to a endocrinologist to figure out why I have no physical or sexual interest in people. I did a personal test for abstaining a week and it shows I don't have high prolactin.
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You should have them test your E2 estradiol the sensitive test as this can affect libido as well. If its to High or too Low it won't matter how much testosterone you have in your body you still won't have any interest in sex. They also need to test your DHT as well.
 
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