USPlabs really REALLY really REALLY wants to know why the stimulation

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Lets just say for the sake of converstaion that USPLabs is going to introduce a very potent Stimulant/fat oxidation.


Would you want appetite suppression or just stimulation?

It is my opinion that ephedrine was used more for weight loss and Stimulation was the side effect.

Who uses stimulants just for pre workout energy?

Personal Opinions please!
 
I am a fan of pre-workout stimulation. I usually only use them like 1 to 2 times a week. I personally would rather have it be a non-appetite suppresant. I actually enjoy having a big appetite around workout time. I seriously hate finishing a workout unless I am ready and willing to refuel afterward.
 
preferably no appetite suppression.
I use them for wake up energy..haha..and preworkout.

new ingredient altogether Jacob?
 
Lets just say for the sake of converstaion that USPLabs is going to introduce a very potent Stimulant/fat oxidation.


Would you want appetite suppression or just stimulation?

It is my opinion that ephedrine was used more for weight loss and Stimulation was the side effect.

Who uses stimulants just for pre workout energy?

Personal Opinions please!

I'd really like to see appetite supression as well if it is a weight loss product. That's the hardest part for me when dieting is dealing with the hunger that comes alongside.

Anyways, hunger never really determines when I eat...if it's time to eat, eat.
 
I'd really like to see appetite supression as well if it is a weight loss product. That's the hardest part for me when dieting is dealing with the hunger that comes alongside.

Anyways, hunger never really determines when I eat...if it's time to eat, eat.

We also have an appetite suppressant in the works. It will probably be part of our fat burning/muscle preserving product that is easy on the adrenals!
 
We also have an appetite suppressant in the works. It will probably be part of our fat burning/muscle preserving product that is easy on the adrenals!

I say go with an anti-catabolic appetite suppressant and make the stimulating product seperate. That way, the stacking options are better and also, a lot of people wont change their pre-workout stim, so this gives them a way of adding a product without too much caff, etc...
 
The biggest thing for me is actual fat burning. Stimulant is definitely more important than appetite suppression, but the most important is definitely increasing the fat burning ability.
 
do the appetite suppression as a separate product. preworkout stims are great, and simpler products (in terms of ingredient profile) always seem better to me as I have more control over what goes into me, and can more easily tailor having separate supplement intake for WO/cardio/off days
 
The biggest thing for me is actual fat burning. Stimulant is definitely more important than appetite suppression, but the most important is definitely increasing the fat burning ability.

It would burn fat through the same pathway ephedrine dose.
 
No appetite suppression, and i like the nice smooth clean stimulation that RPM gives if that helps.
 
apetite suppresion no - i need all the apetite i can to get all my protien in!

stimulation yes - added benefit to being a beast at the gym - incude metabolic stimulation to burn calories/fat better.
 
Lets just say for the sake of converstaion that USPLabs is going to introduce a very potent Stimulant/fat oxidation.


Would you want appetite suppression or just stimulation?

It is my opinion that ephedrine was used more for weight loss and Stimulation was the side effect.

Who uses stimulants just for pre workout energy?

Personal Opinions please!

Both have their place for me.

When your workout schedule has you waking up at 4:15 am and you go to bed at 10:30-11 pm, a pure stim is a very good thing.

With that said, a less-intense stimulant that kills appetite through the day is a very good thing for a cut (of course, on a cut having the stim-only for preworkout is necessary, too).

So, both have their place, and I've used both throughout the day.
 
For me, gotta have the stim effect. It is a great pick me up during the day. Excellent pre workout boost. I love the mental focus.

Taking it out makes me have to buy two supps instead of one.

No app suppression. I can get that by taking a serving of metamucil, eating a salad, etc, etc.
 
I would like a stim-free fat burning supplement that is very effective. If I choose to take a stimulant, I'd like that to be a separate product for pre-workout. I used the ECA stack back in the day because it worked so well for fat burning, but I hated the stimulant aspect of it.

I don't want to walk around "wired" all day ... I have enough energy as it is.:bruce3:

I don't think anyone with healthy adrenals liked the stim effective from ECA. My idea of a stim is much smoother like RPM for example.
 
Pure stimulation.

Looking forward to the adrenal up-regulation. Mine are pretty fried right now - can't go without stims.
Hoping yours allows me to and help my adrenals out.
 
Oh and I meant the stim minus the appetite suppression, I think they would be better as separate products as well.
 
As long as it doesnt make me too jittery its all good. I used to be able to handle 10 ripped fuel(ephedra version) and 4 yohimbine/day
 
No appetite suppression, even during a cut, I gotta force a lot of food because I'm not hungry. I've been waiting for a supplement for cutting with NO appetite suppression for a long time.
 
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