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USP labs marketing department strikes again

Is it just me, or does others feel as if they should have never entered a thread?
 
JJC said:
Nice analysis... Too bad it was all up to the interpretation and the "message" might not have been missed if the original post wasn't read how people wanted to read it, instead of reading it as it was said.

A little thought experiment here:

Say you are going to try a new activity. And you go into it thinking you are going to have a miserable time. Well, chances are the entire time you are discrediting any value from the activity. Has this ever happened before? What if you went in with an open mind? Do you think it would turn out to be any different?

Maybe the name of the post lead you astray. What if you interpreted that as a compliment instead of a dis? (In this case, the two are one in the same...) Would you have read the post differently?
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Thanks...
 
I understand his intent and apologize if jsp feels he was bandwagon'ed, so to speak.

The fact is, though, I assume as many individuals would have capitalized on the IC price notwithstanding NP's potential $19.99 offer. That is still, as B5150 stated, a 25% difference in price; it is still saving the shipping (which cost us on average $9 a shipment - not cheap); and that is still receiving a free sample of PFULL with your order.
 
JJC said:
Don't worry man. I understand what you're trying to say.

You are not whining. People are interpreting it incorrectly. What you are saying and what people think you are saying are two different things which are (obviously) not easy to tell the difference between. And since they don't want to stand corrected for their misinterpretation, the witch hunt will continue.
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Sweet somebody on my side
 
Mulletsoldier said:
I understand his intent and apologize if jsp feels he was bandwagon'ed, so to speak.

The fact is, though, I assume as many individuals would have capitalized on the IC price notwithstanding NP's potential $19.99 offer. That is still, as B5150 stated, a 25% difference in price; it is still saving the shipping (which cost us on average $9 a shipment - not cheap); and that is still receiving a free sample of PFULL with your order.
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No I agree. I said it was a great deal and after trying the prduct I'm glad I ordered three. And I know you guys are in it to make money so getting people to buy 3 instead of one is a very good idea
 
JSP a suggestion for future posts/threads. You and JCC are the only ones stating everyone else is viewing your thread "incorrectly". If we play percentages and 98% of the room agree's vs. the 2% who doesn't. Those in the 2% have some nerve to say everyone else is wrong and they are right. Just know the odds are not in your favor and it will turn out badly:D Friendly advice from a mod looking out for the members.

God this thread is out of hand, in any case JSP you got some big names in your thread, well done. Oh and apparently you got the owner of USPlabs Jacob banned. Not bad for being a member for less then a year.:thumbsup:
 
jminis said:
JSP a suggestion for future posts/threads. You and JCC are the only ones stating everyone else is viewing your thread "incorrectly". If we play percentages and 98% of the room agree's vs. the 2% who doesn't. Those in the 2% have some nerve to say everyone else is wrong and they are right. Just know the odds are not in your favor and it will turn out badly:D Friendly advice from a mod looking out for the members.

God this thread is out of hand, in any case JSP you got some big names in your thread, well done. Oh and apparently you got the owner of USPlabs Jacob banned. Not bad for being a member for less then a year.:thumbsup:
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I tried to bribe bobo, and he wouldn't do it....eh? who knew? lol
 
jminis said:
JSP a suggestion for future posts/threads. You and JCC are the only ones stating everyone else is viewing your thread "incorrectly". If we play percentages and 98% of the room agree's vs. the 2% who doesn't. Those in the 2% have some nerve to say everyone else is wrong and they are right. Just know the odds are not in your favor and it will turn out badly:D Friendly advice from a mod looking out for the members.

God this thread is out of hand, in any case JSP you got some big names in your thread, well done. Oh and apparently you got the owner of USPlabs Jacob banned. Not bad for being a member for less then a year.:thumbsup:
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how did i get him banned? and i'm allowed to say everyone is wrong cause i made the thread. hahaha i win. j/k. what's the most pages a thread has ever consumed? i wanna break the record.
 
jsp0785 said:
how did i get him banned? and i'm allowed to say everyone is wrong cause i made the thread. hahaha i win. j/k. what's the most pages a thread has ever consumed? i wanna break the record.
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Jacked is $19.99 at NP:lol:
 
jminis said:
JSP a suggestion for future posts/threads. You and JCC are the only ones stating everyone else is viewing your thread "incorrectly". If we play percentages and 98% of the room agree's vs. the 2% who doesn't. Those in the 2% have some nerve to say everyone else is wrong and they are right. Just know the odds are not in your favor and it will turn out badly:D Friendly advice from a mod looking out for the members.
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Ahhhhhh....so the world IS flat!

Don't try to bully anyone. I'm just trying to say that I understand what he is saying and he is not trying to be malicious. I don't know this guy and I don't have any internet "friends" on AM. I'm not trying to pick sides. Just because we didn't argue on "your" side doesn't mean we don't understand your arguments as well.

I guess that 2% shouldn't have fought for US independence then, right? And all the planets must be circling us still.

It's JJC by the way.
 
jsp0785 said:
how did i get him banned? and i'm allowed to say everyone is wrong cause i made the thread. hahaha i win. j/k. what's the most pages a thread has ever consumed? i wanna break the record.
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Well, this one is far from it, i can tell you that...
 
JJC said:
Ahhhhhh....so the world IS flat!

Don't try to bully anyone. I'm just trying to say that I understand what he is saying and he is not trying to be malicious. I don't know this guy and I don't have any internet "friends" on AM. I'm not trying to pick sides. Just because we didn't argue on "your" side doesn't mean we don't understand your arguments as well.

I guess that 2% shouldn't have fought for US independence then, right? And all the planets must be circling us still.

It's JJC by the way.
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so we're revolutionaries? sweet
 
hell, 3 months worth of a great preWO supp for 45$ shipped?

the only thing duped were my muscles, thinking they would have 3 months of decent work, but instead theyre' getting absolutely destroyed on a daily basis, and they hate me and USPLabs for it :)
 
Delita420 said:
Is Super Cissus RX any good?
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Yes. If you want to repair your joints and ligaments and make them strong then this is the supplement you want. Here is a thread with hundreds of positive reviews showing how good SuperCissus RX is for the joints:

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dexterium said:
Yes. If you want to repair your joints and ligaments and make them strong then this is the supplement you want. Here is a thread with hundreds of positive reviews showing how good SuperCissus RX is for the joints:

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is it possible for it to repair ligaments or does it just reduce inflammation to make the pain go away? kind of skeptical of something that claims that. and if it does do the effects go away when you stop taking it?
 
jsp0785 said:
is it possible for it to repair ligaments or does it just reduce inflammation to make the pain go away? kind of skeptical of something that claims that. and if it does do the effects go away when you stop taking it?
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Wondering the same thing myself:think:
 
also is there any thing that proves tendon repair or did somebody just claim that and since the pain goes away everybody assumes it healed it
 
jsp0785 said:
also is there any thing that proves tendon repair or did somebody just claim that and since the pain goes away everybody assumes it healed it
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Almost all of the research containing Cissus Quadrangularis is centered around two aspects: The expedited repair of osteoblasts and osteoclasts, and its potent anti-inflammatory action. The significant repair of tendons and/or soft tissue is a postulate based on Cissus' ability to attenuate levels of several damaging pro-inflammatory Cytokines involved in soft-tissue degradation - most notably, TNF-1 ALPHA. While there exists a substantial - almost immutable - body of anecdotal data, such soft-tissue repair has not been clinically proven at this point.
 
Mulletsoldier said:
Almost all of the research containing Cissus Quadrangularis is centered around two aspects: The expedited repair of osteoblasts and osteoclasts, and its potent anti-inflammatory action. The significant repair of tendons and/or soft tissue is a postulate based on Cissus' ability to attenuate levels of several damaging pro-inflammatory Cytokines involved in soft-tissue degradation - most notably, TNF-1 ALPHA. While there exists a substantial - almost immutable - body of anecdotal data, such soft-tissue repair has not been clinically proven at this point.
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thank you sir
 
Mulletsoldier said:
Almost all of the research containing Cissus Quadrangularis is centered around two aspects: The expedited repair of osteoblasts and osteoclasts, and its potent anti-inflammatory action. The significant repair of tendons and/or soft tissue is a postulate based on Cissus' ability to attenuate levels of several damaging pro-inflammatory Cytokines involved in soft-tissue degradation - most notably, TNF-1 ALPHA. While there exists a substantial - almost immutable - body of anecdotal data, such soft-tissue repair has not been clinically proven at this point.
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so speaking in english, there is no clinical evidence cissus has any effect on soft tissue repair only anecdotal? why does it seem i need a translator to understand your posts? not hating, but it seems you are giving a dissertation for a doctorate at times.:lol:
 
thebigt said:
so speaking in english, there is no clinical evidence cissus has any effect on soft tissue repair only anecdotal? why does it seem i need a translator to understand your posts? not hating, but it seems you are giving a dissertation for a doctorate at times.:lol:
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it's cause if nobody can understand it then he can never be wrong:icon_lol:
 
thebigt said:
so speaking in english, there is no clinical evidence cissus has any effect on soft tissue repair only anecdotal? why does it seem i need a translator to understand your posts? not hating, but it seems you are giving a dissertation for a doctorate at times.:lol:
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He asked a question, I answered it.

I could have said, "There is a large amount of user data, check the logs bro!" but, then you would have complained I was bias.

:thumbsup:
 
JJC said:
Ahhhhhh....so the world IS flat!

Don't try to bully anyone. I'm just trying to say that I understand what he is saying and he is not trying to be malicious. I don't know this guy and I don't have any internet "friends" on AM. I'm not trying to pick sides. Just because we didn't argue on "your" side doesn't mean we don't understand your arguments as well.

I guess that 2% shouldn't have fought for US independence then, right? And all the planets must be circling us still.

It's JJC by the way.
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Where am I bullying anyone? The combination of this thread with his other is why people gave him a hard time. Also I don't think JSP needs you to cosign either. And yes lets compare US independence and the world is flat to JSP converstation about a USPlabs special. Way to take things beyond ridiculous.

His message was for members of this board, he had an opinion to share and did so in such a manner that it was not recieved in the way he wanted it to, hence he made a bad choice of words, it's not the members fault who read it a certain way. That's like me giving a speech and the audience doesn't like it but I blame them for taking it the wrong way, crazy. WHat don't you understand. JSP realizes this and has moved on.
 
jsp0785 said:
thank you sir
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Spoke too soon - I forgot about this older study:

K N Udupa, and Gurucharan Prasad Biomechanical and calcium 45 studies on the effect of Cissus quadrangularis in
fracture repair Ind.Jour.Med.Res, 52,5 May 1964.

Healing of the fractured bone is delayed considerably by the administration of cortisone. The periosteal reaction is reduced and the
amount and density of callus is lowered. The mortality rate of the treated subjects is very high due to severe body wasting, atrophy of
muscles and gastric perforation. Cissus quadrangularis treatment in these cortisone treated rabbits caused a significant increase in
mucopolysaccharides level and also caused proliferation of osteoblastic, chondroblastic and cartilage proliferation. It also led to increased mineralization in the callus. Thus the parenteral administration of the total extract of Cissus quadrangularis not only neutralizes the anti-anabolic effect of cortisone in healing of fractures but also enhances the mineralization of the callus. This effect was much greater than that of anabolic hormone durabolin a drug of choice for the neutralization of cortisone possibly due to its
vitamin contents.

Cissus is, strictly speaking, 'anabolic' as it expedites new tissue growth. Unfortunately, much of the follow-up research on Cissus Q., has not investigated cartilage/tendon proliferation. As I said, though, it does inhibit several pro-inflammatory cytokines which have been shown to be soft-tissue-destructive (clinically proven). Cytokines are extracellular messengers which interact with a wide-range of intracellular processes.

Its potent anti-oxidative (significantly reduces lipid peroxidase and DNA fragmentation) and anti-Glucocorticoidal effects suggest it is highly likely soft-tissue repair may be occurring as noted above; they just need to study it, now.

;)
 
jminis said:
Where am I bullying anyone? The combination of this thread with his other is why people gave him a hard time. Also I don't think JSP needs you to cosign either. And yes lets compare US independence and the world is flat to JSP converstation about a USPlabs special. Way to take things beyond ridiculous.

His message was for members of this board, he had an opinion to share and did so in such a manner that it was not recieved in the way he wanted it to, hence he made a bad choice of words, it's not the members fault who read it a certain way. That's like me giving a speech and the audience doesn't like it but I blame them for taking it the wrong way, crazy. WHat don't you understand. JSP realizes this and has moved on.
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i will never move on... deep down inside it will always be there. haha
 
jsp0785 said:
it's cause if nobody can understand it then he can never be wrong:icon_lol:
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Actually, its for the complete opposite purpose. If I tell you exactly how are products may or may not be working, then you are free to investigate all these physiological processes on your own, and make your own informed decision(s)!

Too many representatives are uninformed on the biology of their products, and give sub-par responses. If you don't capitalize on what I give you, that is your bad!
 
Mulletsoldier said:
Spoke too soon - I forgot about this older study:

K N Udupa, and Gurucharan Prasad Biomechanical and calcium 45 studies on the effect of Cissus quadrangularis in
fracture repair Ind.Jour.Med.Res, 52,5 May 1964.

Healing of the fractured bone is delayed considerably by the administration of cortisone. The periosteal reaction is reduced and the
amount and density of callus is lowered. The mortality rate of the treated subjects is very high due to severe body wasting, atrophy of
muscles and gastric perforation. Cissus quadrangularis treatment in these cortisone treated rabbits caused a significant increase in
mucopolysaccharides level and also caused proliferation of osteoblastic, chondroblastic and cartilage proliferation. It also led to increased mineralization in the callus. Thus the parenteral administration of the total extract of Cissus quadrangularis not only neutralizes the anti-anabolic effect of cortisone in healing of fractures but also enhances the mineralization of the callus. This effect was much greater than that of anabolic hormone durabolin a drug of choice for the neutralization of cortisone possibly due to its
vitamin contents.

Cissus is, strictly speaking, 'anabolic' as it expedites new tissue growth. Unfortunately, much of the follow-up research on Cissus Q., has not investigated cartilage/tendon proliferation. As I said, though, it does inhibit several pro-inflammatory cytokines which have been shown to be soft-tissue-destructive (clinically proven). Cytokines are extracellular messengers which interact with a wide-range of intracellular processes.

Its potent anti-oxidative (significantly reduces lipid peroxidase and DNA fragmentation) and anti-Glucocorticoidal effects suggest it is highly likely soft-tissue repair may be occurring as noted above; they just need to study it, now.

;)
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now this is an anti-glucocorticoid and from what i understand prime is too. does this give prime the potential of acting like cissus and vice versa?
 
jsp0785 said:
now this is an anti-glucocorticoid and from what i understand prime is too. does this give prime the potential of acting like cissus and vice versa?
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If PRIME is an anti-Glucocorticoid, it is difficult to say whether or not they would act like each other. Cissus acts on the GR (glucocorticoid receptor) and PRIME may be systemic.
 
Delita420 said:
How do you like this 'Prime'?
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You are the King of asking random questions in USP Labs threads, Delta. :lol:

I thoroughly enjoy it, but I would suggest reading less-biased reviews to form your opinion. I am employed by USP Labs and, despite the fact I keep my commentary objective, it would be unfair for me to sway your opinion based solely on my experience!
 
jminis said:
Where am I bullying anyone?
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jminis said:
Just know the odds are not in your favor and it will turn out badly
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Sounds like a threat.

jminis said:
The combination of this thread with his other is why people gave him a hard time.
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That I do agree with. I just cared not to comment on it throughout this thread.

jminis said:
Also I don't think JSP needs you to cosign either.
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I already said I wasn't taking his side, I don't know him, and I don't have any internet buddies.

jminis said:
And yes lets compare US independence and the world is flat to JSP converstation about a USPlabs special. Way to take things beyond ridiculous.
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You were saying that those who are in the minority should not have the nerve to speak their mind. I showed you a couple simple examples where the minority did speak their mind, that's all.

I'm not trying to hurt anyone's feelings here. Hell, I don't even care about the deal. Which was a deal. Does that help?

There are just two sides to every debate and it is possible to see it from both angles without getting defensive.
 
You're all morons.


Discuss.
 
i think this thread has entered the twilight zone.:trout:
 
This thread makes me sad to be part of this human race...


Seriously all, chill the **** out. JJC and JSP if you think that USP is evil for trying to introduce not only just a stupid low 15.99 to the IC, but also thinking Sam is evil for trying to give a very very generous intro price for Nutra. Just boycott all the above, and you won't have to worry about either anymore.

Other than that, everyone take your tampons out and MOVE ON. This is gone far beyond ridiculous.
 
bLacKjAck. said:
This thread makes me sad to be part of this human race...


Seriously all, chill the **** out. JJC and JSP if you think that USP is evil for trying to introduce not only just a stupid low 15.99 to the IC, but also thinking Sam is evil for trying to give a very very generous intro price for Nutra. Just boycott all the above, and you won't have to worry about either anymore.

Other than that, everyone take your tampons out and MOVE ON. This is gone far beyond ridiculous.
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Haha. I'm sorry man, I don't think you read any of my posts.

Been chillin this whole time. Nobody is evil. It was a deal. Sam is generous. The boycott is not necessary. I'm not worried. I don't use tampons. I'm about to move on to a work holiday party. And it is going to be far beyond ridiculous!
 
"...and I thought Oprah had abandonment issues...."
 

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