fueledpassion
Well-known member
No, I was building off a response by another fella that mentioned a somewhat common observation that natty guys discredit anyone who has used steroids, phs or any pharmaceutical grade drug to enhance muscle building or fat loss.
Steroid users tend to down play the gear and natty guys tend to discredit the ethics of gear users. Fact is, you could say both are wrong OR you could say both have some truth to their opinions.
The part about natty guys bein hypocritical, this wasnt directed at any natty person specifically but rather to some people, who were not bodybuilders, that I have talked to in the past on the topic. A certain level of arrogance comes from them that is incredibly condescending and judgmental. Usually, this is because they are incredibly uninformed on the matter and even worse, I've noticed these same folks make the issue out to be a moral one, which for many it simply isnt.
Nonetheless, I want to make sure I cordially explain myself. No, I do not view myself any better than others. I live by Grace and try my best to avoid passing judgment on others. Yet, when I see others doin just that, I get passionately heated about it sometimes. Either way, I find it stupid to be condescending to others because their take on something differs from my own.
Another thing about TRT. If we're talkin about legit TRT dosing, it isnt noteably better than a "natty" T level, if at all. True TRT aims to fall into something that'd be normal, like 500-900 ng/dl. I can tell u now that 900 ng on exogenous T feels significantly less satisfying than 500 ng from endogenous T levels. I say this because in 8 weeks or so I'm quitting TRT and tryin a restart. Hopefully I can manage a 400-500 ng/dl range, which is the best my T has ever been naturally anyways.
1200 ng/dl is even marginally better. The pumps are better but as far as leanness and sex drive, practically unchanged if not worse than a natural T level at least for myself. What I've learned is that as I get older and smarter about training and diet, the androgens become less and less relevant to success. If its true for me its bound to be true for others. I'm migrating back to being natty.
I personally like the look of someone 200 plus with %10 bf or less. But that's a tough look to hit. I'd rather have high bf and be big than tiny and shredded (from lack of food, high metabolism lol). But to each his own. That's the fun thing about this sport. You can do what you want and create what you want. Hell, you can take the dreaded steroids if you want lol I sill feel ogus is on something. He is incredibly vascular if you've seen his training vid with Chris jones and Ronnie Coleman I believe.
