TheBGRigatoni
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happy holidays gang
Hey guys sorry for the delays in replies. We had all sorts of issues come up and we needed to fix them.
Originally the plan was to complex the UA in cyclodextrin. We wanted to do this because it increases the solubility of UA 200 times. But we got bad news.
We used a new manufacturer, who basically priced it as complexed. We thought we were good to go. By the time they completed and we had labels printed and we tested the final product we found all they did was blend our UA with cyclodextrins. They didn't actually complex it which is what really matters. At this point we went back to them but they want to charge a ridiculous amount for complexing the product. Egh
So where does that leave us. The cyclo in the product doesn't actually improve solubility. So this is just plain ole UA.
However the additions of piperine and forskolin still work well with UA. We are also continuing to pursue a manufacturer who can appropriately complex the cyclos.
FRL sincerely apologizes for this error. But hopefully this provides some clarification.
any logs on this yet>?
No logs on here as of yet. Though I'll be running it in feb and will have a pseudo log of some sort. Of course this will be of the ur sol xt sans the cyclo unfortunately. That factor is still being worked out.
Do not have a log but I did order a bottle of the Ursol-XT the day I made my post here to see what effects I got.
First thing I noticed was very refreshing sleep if I took it before bed.
And I know it is supposed to be for cutting but to test it I lightened my routine by half and screwed up my diet a bit.
Now I am one of those people whose diet makes or breaks my physique.
And with about 1000 more calories than I normally eat in a day I actually leaned out somewhat.
This was at the regular dosage.
I know it is not the forkolin because I've taken that solo before and it takes a few weeks to kick in.
So I cannot wait for the actual complexed version.
It should be stellar because this one actually works pretty well.
Then again I'm a good responder to a lot of things.
At least this one did not boost my libido like everything else seems to do.. lolz/
eta on updated product ?
Been a while now,think the consumers have lost interest
word man. Better be out soon, heard PA is releasing a newer and improved version of his ursobolic. Seems it might hit stores for summer , thats what i heard. Ursol xt sounds interesting for sure.
Btw, royd, any hints on whats in the works??
miniarnold said:Newer improved version the original did jack all for most users myself included, i wont be buying it again and doubtfull i will buy anything with ursolic acid in that claims to body recomp, just to good to be true
There. is. no. magic. pill.
Someone look up the definition of "supplement"
If u want recomp you better eat and train for that... No pill is gonna do it for u, it's only gonna "supplement" or assist your efforts
Urso worked great for me on 3 separate occasions n I will continue to use it when it fits my goals.
Alpha Bulk is in production as we speak
Course, i was gonna rant about how best to recomp the natural way but i didnt bother as you have, i was quoting what ursobolic was supposed to do which was have a recomp effect loose some fat gain some muscle without a change in diet myself and many others were dissapointed, as success can be achieved with no supps its just some people buy into something that may give them a good boost, obv no magic pill (if you wana be natural) as you say and i think most peeps accept this but still look for an edge, but ther is lots of say ....magic food.
shinivan said:I think you are right at some extent here my friend. I think most supplements out there straight up suck and are a big lie. They claim something, then dont deliver and they end up pulling the "check your diet" trick, haha, unacceptable. While it is certainly true that diet and training are number 1 in how your physiq looks, supplements like this DO sell on the promise of having a loss fat gain muscle without any changes to diet. To some degree i believe that effective supplements should do something without one having dietary and training changes, specially those selling in that way. And ursobolic did sell with this promise.
I personally have had great success with epharms urso at standard 9 pills. So i feel sorry it didn't work for you but PA himself has admitted that ursolic acid has some bioavailability problems (i think he mentioned solubility, among other things). I tried to sneak out info from him but it was useless, i know he is making ursolic acid more available, plus he mentioned the word "breakthrough" so watch out.
But he to each his own right, Cheers
I
Agree with you
I admittedly take fat burners year round (and it took LOTS of trial and errr to fond the ones that worked)
Agreed, any supp that makes bold promises to your physique with no dietary or training alterations SHOULD work, and thats where 99% of consumers are dissapointed cos they buy into it (myself included) expecting results but often get none,
Imo I think for the most part traditional diet manipulation and training is king for long term success in physique development with the small handfull of natural supps to acompany, dont believe natural supps make a huge difference for anyone, and then they arnt a necessity
miniarnold said:And they are?
Just stop buying into the marketing and appreciate the supplements for what they are. Your taking it too seriously, really we want the supplement companies to do well and survive and thats where innovation comes along. They need to sell the stuff its a fact.
For some of us little goes a long way.
Hey guys sorry for the delays in replies. We had all sorts of issues come up and we needed to fix them.
Originally the plan was to complex the UA in cyclodextrin. We wanted to do this because it increases the solubility of UA 200 times. But we got bad news.
We used a new manufacturer, who basically priced it as complexed. We thought we were good to go. By the time they completed and we had labels printed and we tested the final product we found all they did was blend our UA with cyclodextrins. They didn't actually complex it which is what really matters. At this point we went back to them but they want to charge a ridiculous amount for complexing the product. Egh
So where does that leave us. The cyclo in the product doesn't actually improve solubility. So this is just plain ole UA.
However the additions of piperine and forskolin still work well with UA. We are also continuing to pursue a manufacturer who can appropriately complex the cyclos.
FRL sincerely apologizes for this error. But hopefully this provides some clarification.